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Do you still buy or cook non-Paleo / Neolithic foods for friends and family?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM

I am the only Paleo eater in my house. I am also the primary cook and grocery shopper. The likelihood of my family switching to my way of eating is slim to none. My husband is a "meat and potatoes" kind of person and thinks my food is weird. I don't have issues with having the bad food in my house. I've learned to control my eating and don't expect everyone to eat what I eat.

The question came up this weekend, while I did my Holiday Baking for friends and family. Despite the fact that I would not eat this type of food, I made cookies and caramel corn and toffee for my co-workers and family. It's a holiday tradition and they would be disappointed without it. I feel almost like I am poisoning them though, even if they are happy about it.

I think next year I may have to come up with some new gift ideas.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 15, 2010
at 12:00 AM

I'm coming over for dinner!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 11:59 PM

Those my family will eat! It's the veggies and no bread/rice/white potatoes/chips/candy that talk them out of it!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 11:58 PM

I get where you are coming from, but my husband hates change. He won't really try new foods. Even new recipes with foods he likes are suspect.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 11:20 PM

My biggest problem on that front is that grandma lives downstairs from us and she will give her anything she wants. It's my MIL, not my mom, and I've tried to talk to her about it, but she just agrees with me and then does what she wants. It's frustrating, but I think I just have to wait until my daughter is smart enough to realize how important the right food is.

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on December 14, 2010
at 09:31 PM

I'm trying to take the approach with my kids that if they are hungry they will eat it. I have a 3 year old and 4 month old (breastfed). It seems to be doing the trick, but definitely tough.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 06:16 PM

I love "paleolier than thou"! :D I also am big on "gateway" foods for the non-believers. I let them eat it and tell me its delicious, then explain how it still fits into my healthier way of eating.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 06:15 PM

Yes! The process of baking for my friends and family is fun for me. I do think I will work on some better recipes for next year!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 06:15 PM

My husband gladly eats the yummy bacon and eggs! That's how I figure I'll slowly move him over to my side.

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:58 PM

I asked something similar semi-recently and got a great discussion out of it: http://paleohacks.com/questions/8995/is-it-ethical-to-sell-unhealthy-foods-to-others#axzz186Oyzv6A

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:06 PM

"I hold out hope that things will change. In the meantime, I live by example." THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. My 8 year old asks me a lot of food questions. She's not really buying what I'm selling yet, though. I have hope as she gets older she will understand more. She doesn't remember me being obese, but she sees pictures and asks about it. My husband also thinks I am crazy and they make jokes about my "weird" food.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:04 PM

Well, it's my husband for dinner though, and he likes what he likes. He doesn't haven't any significant health problems and he's not overweight. He's not big on change.

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:57 PM

Potatoes are neolithic (at least the white varietals). However, the reason the people tend to shy away from them is because of high carbohydrate content in the form of complex starches (great for your gut-flora btw) which is bad for body composition and can lead to insulin resistance if you over-indulge.

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:48 PM

I don't usually preach, just cook it and if they ask, say that's how we eat. I found out a long time ago that preaching is worthless because people only change if they want to.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:37 PM

Yes, I love to bake! It's part of the holidays for me and for them. I do think I may take Jodi's advice and try and find some spiced nut recipes and such for them next year, but if I don't make "Santa's Favorite Cookies" I may be shunned. :)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:35 PM

I do fine with the will power aspect of it. It's mostly co-workers, which are all men, that I do most of the baking for in-lieu of actual gifts. It's been tradition the entire time I worked here. I do think next year I will spend some time looking for healthier items to make them. I just feel like I'm imposing my nutritional choices upon them, when they don't really care and would enjoy the sweets more.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:29 PM

Nice! I am going to work on this more next year. I'd like them to understand why it's better for them, but I also don't like to preach.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:27 PM

Also, it's my veggies he considers weird. I have added in zucchini and squash and sweet potatoes instead of traditional potatoes.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:24 PM

I like that. I wish I could pull it off. It's just hard to change the status quo after this many years, for me.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:23 PM

I think it's based on how I came around to it, from the dieting/calorie counting way. My husband has no eating issues or weight issues so he didn't change his habits then either. Paleo would be healthier for him, but he thinks he's "fine" and doesn't need to change anything.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:22 PM

LOL, yeah I guess. I don't consider his potatoes paleo, I don't eat them. He also likes his bread and cheese and dairy and baked goods. :)

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:10 PM

Aren't meat and potatoes... essentially Paleo?

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on December 14, 2010
at 10:13 PM

No, and we have a fair amount of guests so it's often a bit amusing :) Luckily the food I cook and keep on hand generally isn't exactly unappealing diet food ("Hey, want some bacon and eggs?" "Would you prefer broccoli or zucchini with your steak?"). I don't think I know many vegetarians but I could probably even feed one of those if I thought about it.

Sometimes guests go out and get their own snacks or supplemental food but I don't change the way I generally operate. I try to provide alternatives for preferences though (like someone who is picky about veggies).

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 15, 2010
at 12:00 AM

I'm coming over for dinner!

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22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

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on December 14, 2010
at 09:33 PM

One thing I have found with talking paleo with non-paleo's it to not mention "low carb" or carbs at all. Just stick with the basics and talk up the amount of fatty foods you can eat, like bacon, burgers, steak, chicken skin, etc.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 11:59 PM

Those my family will eat! It's the veggies and no bread/rice/white potatoes/chips/candy that talk them out of it!

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on December 14, 2010
at 09:26 PM

When dealing with others, I think the most critical thing is taste. Avoid the whole 'healthier for you' argument and go for the 'it tastes great and is a change from the standard ho hum stuff' argument. If it tastes bad, you've lost the battle before it's even started.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 11:58 PM

I get where you are coming from, but my husband hates change. He won't really try new foods. Even new recipes with foods he likes are suspect.

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5c14d1ca9a7f98d0be7c5a828410d146

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on December 14, 2010
at 04:11 PM

No. But if I am in a social situation where food is shared, I'll bring what I consider a "gateway" food like home made almond crackers with red pepper dip, or some veggies or some cookies I've made with walnuts and dates instead of flour and sugar. While the "paleolier-than-thou" folks might cringe at this and give me 1000 reasons while it's wrong, I've found that this is a great ice breaker and gets people asking questions about why I eat the way I do. And those foods are recognizable enough so that the entire concept doesn't seem completely unattainable or foreign, though I make it clear those foods are treats and my day-to-day diet looks much different.

I've had several friends convert completely, and a few more have started dabbling as they get their minds around certain concepts, like "fat is good for you" and "grains are not." My belief is that paleo the way it's defined and practiced today is about as close to a perfect diet for human beings, and the more people think about it, and more importantly, as they explore eating this way for themselves, the more evident that becomes, and the easier it is to adopt it. There is no need for a hard sell here.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 06:16 PM

I love "paleolier than thou"! :D I also am big on "gateway" foods for the non-believers. I let them eat it and tell me its delicious, then explain how it still fits into my healthier way of eating.

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:58 PM

I live in a household with two other adults who are both capable of cooking and shopping so there is no need for it. I cook what I enjoy with some consulting on preferences. If they want something else they can make it. I did make egg nogg this weekend but I like the process :)

In sum, I cook what I enjoy. Either because I eat it or because the process itself brings me joy.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 06:15 PM

Yes! The process of baking for my friends and family is fun for me. I do think I will work on some better recipes for next year!

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:48 PM

Yup. I do it because it saves me money and because I do not want to force them to come to the same conclusions I came to with my own free will. So far in the past six months this soft sale of eatting bacon and eggs while they eat pancakes and French toast has helped me convert three friends.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 06:15 PM

My husband gladly eats the yummy bacon and eggs! That's how I figure I'll slowly move him over to my side.

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on December 14, 2010
at 02:55 PM

I try to exert a positive influence on my vegetarian daughter (she's 10) when I cook for her. We make sweet potato fries instead of rice and beans. I substitute nuts for tofu (blech!).

I wouldn't bake brownies for her; however, she's getting to be a whiz in the kitchen. The other day she whipped up a batch of brownies by herself. I don't stop her. We talk about food a lot. Her mom jokes about how I'm crazy. But I'm not sure it's really a joke.

I hold out hope that things will change. In the meantime, I live by example.

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

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on December 14, 2010
at 09:31 PM

I'm trying to take the approach with my kids that if they are hungry they will eat it. I have a 3 year old and 4 month old (breastfed). It seems to be doing the trick, but definitely tough.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 03:06 PM

"I hold out hope that things will change. In the meantime, I live by example." THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. My 8 year old asks me a lot of food questions. She's not really buying what I'm selling yet, though. I have hope as she gets older she will understand more. She doesn't remember me being obese, but she sees pictures and asks about it. My husband also thinks I am crazy and they make jokes about my "weird" food.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 11:20 PM

My biggest problem on that front is that grandma lives downstairs from us and she will give her anything she wants. It's my MIL, not my mom, and I've tried to talk to her about it, but she just agrees with me and then does what she wants. It's frustrating, but I think I just have to wait until my daughter is smart enough to realize how important the right food is.

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:35 PM

I would cook non-paleo for my family for the holidays. I used to bake a lot, which I miss doing.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:37 PM

Yes, I love to bake! It's part of the holidays for me and for them. I do think I may take Jodi's advice and try and find some spiced nut recipes and such for them next year, but if I don't make "Santa's Favorite Cookies" I may be shunned. :)

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:31 PM

I rarely make cookies or pastries for family anymore. No. 1, it's bad for them; and No. 2, I don't have the willpower to resist eating a ton of it myself. Your loved ones are getting lots of sweets this time of year from other sources, so they probably won't suffer if you cut back next year on your baking. Consider making less harmful treats, like spiced nuts or dark chocolate truffles (solid dark chocolate, heavy cream and butter).

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 02:35 PM

I do fine with the will power aspect of it. It's mostly co-workers, which are all men, that I do most of the baking for in-lieu of actual gifts. It's been tradition the entire time I worked here. I do think next year I will spend some time looking for healthier items to make them. I just feel like I'm imposing my nutritional choices upon them, when they don't really care and would enjoy the sweets more.

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22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:27 PM

No and I usually get no complaints. However, if my family or friends bring something non-paleo then they can have at it.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 03:04 PM

Well, it's my husband for dinner though, and he likes what he likes. He doesn't haven't any significant health problems and he's not overweight. He's not big on change.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on December 14, 2010
at 02:29 PM

Nice! I am going to work on this more next year. I'd like them to understand why it's better for them, but I also don't like to preach.

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on December 14, 2010
at 02:48 PM

I don't usually preach, just cook it and if they ask, say that's how we eat. I found out a long time ago that preaching is worthless because people only change if they want to.

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:23 PM

To the point of being an ass yes, If I buy it and you eat it you are eating paleo. If you buy it and it can't be made paleo I avoid it.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:24 PM

I like that. I wish I could pull it off. It's just hard to change the status quo after this many years, for me.

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:20 PM

Nope. I won't get junk food when I go shopping. If my family wants to eat it, they can go get it. I go to wholefoods too, where that stuff would be quite expensive. I will make baked goods for friends on their birthdays though. I guess that's somewhat hypocritical.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on December 14, 2010
at 02:23 PM

I think it's based on how I came around to it, from the dieting/calorie counting way. My husband has no eating issues or weight issues so he didn't change his habits then either. Paleo would be healthier for him, but he thinks he's "fine" and doesn't need to change anything.

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on January 08, 2013
at 03:55 PM

I'm sort of feeling torn about this one too.. because knowing what I know about grains, in my opinion they are like poison and I certainly don't want to eat them, so why would I encourage others to eat them? I felt bad giving away some of my non-paleo foods after doing a lot of research and educating myself about it. It's as if to say "hey this is horrible stuff and I dont want it.. but you can have it!"

I also feel like this question is sort of like asking a vegetarian if they would buy and cook meat for non-vegetarians. If they don't believe its a good choice for themselves they likely wouldn't want to do it for others. Although vegetarians may have different reasons its usually a personal choice as is Paleo for me. I dont have to eat this way I could eat grains if I wanted to but I choose not to. I feel sort of confused on this one and I really don't know if I should bake the way I used to for others. I'd also have difficulty not eating any myself and I'd feel bad when I think about all the bad stuff I'm encouraging them to eat.

That being said I have a potluck coming up this weekend and I have been asked to make cake pops because I have a cake pop maker. It's going to be hard to bake a batch of 48 delicious balls of cakey goodness dipped in coloured chocolate without stuffing my face and feeling guilty about that impulsive decision later..

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