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Do you ever get frustrated with other people?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created October 26, 2012 at 5:48 AM

I've found it very hard to explain to people why the way I eat is healthy and how good it would be for them to try it. i'm also really sick of having to continually argue against SAD conventional wisdom all the time. It's like, I learned so much about this topic (nutrition) and people's emotions and preconceptions make them go "oh, well you're full of shit, saturated fat is bad for you!" almost every time. It's really frustrating.

4523f952f67fa6485efeac2c9ea810cf

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:44 PM

Yeah i don't give a shit about people other than family, but it's hard to see my dad stuffing himself with pretzels and coke 'cause they are fat free :-/

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on November 01, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Pics or we fight. ;)

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on October 27, 2012
at 05:00 AM

I take my shirt off. They stop fighting.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on October 26, 2012
at 08:34 PM

LOL... I cannot hide my attitude when I have my PMS. But I feel really guilty afterwards.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on October 26, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I don't know what Desenex is... I will try to google it.

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on October 26, 2012
at 07:44 PM

At least I think Desenex is vegan....

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on October 26, 2012
at 07:42 PM

I've found that people I think are misguided can smell my attitude a mile away. Wait for them to put their foot in their mouth before you open yours, and even then be careful. They might just like the flavor of Desenex.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on October 26, 2012
at 06:37 PM

@thhq at least the cat got some good non-grain fed meat

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on October 26, 2012
at 06:28 PM

People are generally not receptive to being told how you're better than they are. I would personally get off that high horse 'cause it'll make you and them miserable.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on October 26, 2012
at 03:53 PM

sit by and quietly watch them die from fatty liver disease... HAHAHA, patience is a virtue!

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on October 26, 2012
at 02:48 PM

don't go away mad. just go away.

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on October 26, 2012
at 02:24 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/115102/the-first-rule-of-paleo-is-you-do-not-talk-about-paleo#axzz2AP6u5aQ8

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 26, 2012
at 01:31 PM

So next time a super obese person talks to you about not eating meat, ask them what they eat, and add "How's that working out for you?" Give'em the trollface smile as they answer. Maybe they'll get the hint.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 26, 2012
at 01:28 PM

Snarky responses are pure gold!

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:58 PM

I was just gonna say about the sausages...but last night I had a butter sauteed mix of dry sausage and chantarelles, and the cat got my tongue.

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:54 PM

It's mutual. Today somebody new wants to tan my hide.

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:23 PM

exactly .

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 26, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Yeah. Like offering snarky responses on PH. Much better use of time.

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on October 26, 2012
at 05:51 AM

Sucks for them!

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2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on October 26, 2012
at 06:23 AM

find something else to occupy your time.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on October 26, 2012
at 01:28 PM

Snarky responses are pure gold!

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 26, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Yeah. Like offering snarky responses on PH. Much better use of time.

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(10611)

on October 26, 2012
at 02:48 PM

don't go away mad. just go away.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:23 PM

exactly .

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on October 26, 2012
at 07:25 PM

I generally keep it to myself, even when they start talking about the next juice fast they're going on. These people do often ask me about nutrition or food-related things, but I just answer them according to the subject (a few weeks ago they asked if there was something in whole grains that leads to indigestion). I never frame it as "paleo" or refer to a specific diet at all. I think people are more likely to find their way to real food by picking up bit by bit until they reach this tipping point. At least, that was my case. Half the stuff paleo espouses were things I discovered in my own nutritional research while I was eating a "conventional healthy diet" (biggest one being that animal fat is only about half saturated, and most of that is stearic acid, which is considered in the conventional medical community as benign for heart health!) I just got to a point where I realized there was a community that actually believed the same things I had discovered and they were calling it "paleo."

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A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 26, 2012
at 12:18 PM

I don't get too frustrated, but I gave up evangelizing (about any topic) a long time ago. If someone seems genuinely curious, I'll engage, otherwise I tend to tread lightly and resist my impulse to judge their choices (or lack of knowledge).

I know I'm often not very receptive to others' attempts at persuasion myself, and try to remind myself that I too was ill-informed at one time. When I do feel frustration, it's usually more on a meta-level, with our food and social/cultural environment which leads people in the wrong direction, even if they're trying to do the right things for themselves.

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on October 26, 2012
at 11:49 AM

Don't worry about changing the world. What people are doing must be good enough for them, for them to keep doing it. If you want to do good, you can explain stuff for those who ask with interest. To people who attack your choices, you could shrug and say that it seems to work for you.

Adjust with less indifference, if the people you refer to, are close to you.

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4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

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on October 26, 2012
at 10:28 AM

I don't argue with the masses. I just tell them I stopped eating x, y, and z, and I've lost weight, my blood work is much better and I feel even better than that. I just eat real food that requires no processing. I can pick an apple off a tree and eat it right away, or kill a chicken, and that's now dinner. If they say it's bad. I just go, eh, my measurements seem to say otherwise though, so I'm gonna keep running with it. How's your diet working for you? This is where the mind explosion usually occurs.

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on October 26, 2012
at 07:30 PM

I don???t give a Paleo poop about what people think, although watching the slow motion nutritional train wreck of my loved ones can get under my skin at times.

4523f952f67fa6485efeac2c9ea810cf

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:44 PM

Yeah i don't give a shit about people other than family, but it's hard to see my dad stuffing himself with pretzels and coke 'cause they are fat free :-/

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:00 PM

I've learned just to rephrase how I eat. I say, I eat natural foods, organic vegetables, fresh meat, fruits. I try to limit sugar and sugar derivatives.

I've not had anyone question that methodology. I've actually convinced a few people to give it a go. Then I give them my copy of PB or Solution and let them learn from the experts first.

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on October 26, 2012
at 09:39 AM

Hell yeah! Worse than that, I want to murder some of the dumb bastards*.

It's not my fault, most of the time I don't want to engage the carb-addicted, bread stuffing, idiots, but I struggle to ignore the raised eyebrows when I take a plate of meat from the buffet, or I eat about 10 sausages at breakfast in a hotel**

Someone confronted me about my meat stuffing antics during a business lunch yesterday. I politely tried to explain to her about evolutionary diets (and T2 diabets), but she just ignored everything I said and replied "when I was at school a girl tried the Atkins diet and all her hair fell out).

So just try your best to ignore them, and let them die from stuffing themselves with flour and sugar, which will hopefully leave more buffet meat and breakfast sausages for the rest of us.

*I don't really want to murder anyone, just sit by and quietly watch them die from fatty liver disease.

** yeah - I know the sausages probably have non-Paleo crap in them, but I didn't have any other options.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on October 26, 2012
at 03:53 PM

sit by and quietly watch them die from fatty liver disease... HAHAHA, patience is a virtue!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on October 26, 2012
at 01:31 PM

So next time a super obese person talks to you about not eating meat, ask them what they eat, and add "How's that working out for you?" Give'em the trollface smile as they answer. Maybe they'll get the hint.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 26, 2012
at 06:37 PM

@thhq at least the cat got some good non-grain fed meat

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on October 26, 2012
at 12:58 PM

I was just gonna say about the sausages...but last night I had a butter sauteed mix of dry sausage and chantarelles, and the cat got my tongue.

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on October 27, 2012
at 04:18 AM

Path of least resistance - they don't want to know, so don't waste your breath telling them.

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on October 26, 2012
at 02:22 PM

Keep your focus on yourself. Don't worry about others. If you have what they want they will ask you how you got it. If you don't, they won't. And if they ask you and they don't want to do what you did, then it matters not at all for you. Just keep on keeping on.

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on October 26, 2012
at 11:46 PM

I just smile and nod - or occasionally I'll try to change the subject - as they tell me how their 14 day juice fast followed by "healthy vegetarianism" is going to solve all of their health issues.

People generally don't share information because they want reflection and input; they share because they want commendation and simply to talk, to identify and connect with someone, on any grounds. You'll see that a lot in people talking about the weather, the news, tragedies, shared enemies (and the subtle provocation of them), and so on. It's mostly just talk for the sake of talk. Talk because we're alone as a species, but aren't I holy, and isn't this sad, and the weather today sure is something, and you get me right? Right?

Their mind is already made up. Resisting only sends them on their path spitefully, and you on yours shaking your head.

One should, of course, know how to discern when someone is honestly seeking counsel.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on October 26, 2012
at 07:27 PM

Some people do it not because they want to be mean, they are just misguided. When I was on a low fat diet (thanks to my registered dietitian who told me to eat whole grains - I hope she will get it right on her next patient) I had an argument with a person who told me that lard was better than EVOO. And I was trying to convince him otherwise. I still feel kind of embarrassed about that whole thing.

The best you can do is say to other people that you have a very special medical condition (like an allergy, or an inflammatory condition, whatever, as long as it sounds scary, scientific and mysterious) and you need to eat saturated fat - your doctor told you too.

People usually back off when they hear you have a special medical condition and they never bring up the subject again. I get to eat anything I want because I am gluten intolerant and nobody knows what the heck it is. I can use my gluten intolerance to cover all kinds of food, even if they don't have gluten. I can always say, "it is a cross-reactive food".

I know what you are saying though because I always get pissed off at vegetarians. One lady I know converted thirty people to become vegetarians for one month "to save our environment"! But people are the way they are and if you argue, you will never get on their good side. Just be firm and polite, and be nice to them. There is more to life than arguing about saturated fat, it is not worth it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on October 26, 2012
at 08:34 PM

LOL... I cannot hide my attitude when I have my PMS. But I feel really guilty afterwards.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on October 26, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I don't know what Desenex is... I will try to google it.

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(10611)

on October 26, 2012
at 07:44 PM

At least I think Desenex is vegan....

Medium avatar

(10611)

on October 26, 2012
at 07:42 PM

I've found that people I think are misguided can smell my attitude a mile away. Wait for them to put their foot in their mouth before you open yours, and even then be careful. They might just like the flavor of Desenex.

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on October 26, 2012
at 06:03 PM

I have always found that murder makes me a LOT feel better.

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on October 26, 2012
at 01:47 PM

Always try to remember they are not thinking clearly. I can still remember the voracious hunger that would drive me to go get a ham & cheese filled crossiant almost everyday at nine, and how it happened every day and yet it still seemed like a surprise every day.

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