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Do you eat a Big Ass Salad?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 31, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Do you eat a Big Ass Salad? It is part of something Mark Sisson advocates, so I see some posts here and there about what people put on their BAS with details on the numerous ingredients in their giant salads.

I used to eat a BAS (especially pre-paleo), happily munching along. It was mostly to give me the feeling of eating lots of "real" food because I was of course, trying to eat low-fat and loved chicken breast on it. Nowadays, I'm not scared of fat, but I still eat giant salads. Out of habit, I suppose.

And then I read something by someone well respected on this site (Archevore) that "Some is better than none, but neither big salads nor fruit to excess will save your life. You're not a gorilla, you're an omnivore"

Now whenever I'm eating, I feel like some greedy/gluttonous fat King Kong when I want to eat a field of greens. It makes me feeling like I'm eating for entertainment rather than to just supply my body with nutrients.

So, big salads or just the basic necessities?

Eead82aa93bbcdada0bcd817d0952e58

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on May 12, 2012
at 07:36 PM

interesting, I actually have the opposite reaction to salad- I found myself never satisfied no matter the amount of flesh and fat and it triggered overeating later in the day to satisfy that anonymous craving

44349dd8bf3bc226731d2f6bd42e8124

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on April 01, 2012
at 10:37 PM

I've always thought there's not a human alive that has gotten fat from overeating salad or veggies... So a BAS here and there ain't going to hurt IMO.

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

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on April 01, 2012
at 05:32 PM

Sometimes being hungry is just being hungry.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

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on April 01, 2012
at 03:45 PM

I'm more inclined to eat it if there is some animal flesh on it - bacon, shrimp, eggs ... etc

9ffe43c6c5990ed710c7c49b12d6ee7f

on April 01, 2012
at 07:21 AM

Same - I always tell myself I will start doing them but I find making salads a huge pain. Getting everything clean, cut into bite-sized pieces, and mixed just takes quite a while.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 01, 2012
at 06:13 AM

:) It can be very peppery.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on April 01, 2012
at 06:05 AM

Gluttons unite! Do we need a support group?

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

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on April 01, 2012
at 03:52 AM

Yay for salads! Thanks for commenting. It makes me feel so much better that other people make giant salads:)

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:54 AM

I love a big crunchy salad! So fresh and satisfying! But then, I am a 'recovering' vegetarian. ;-)

A7925ab8ea44e6d4d5d7c6f202632c6c

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:05 AM

"Being hungry usually means you're under-eating or that your body is receiving inadequate nutrition" ----- being hungry means just that your appetite is screwed - one always have plenty of stored fat in their own bodies to feed on

A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on April 01, 2012
at 01:29 AM

Im not eating salad made of ass no matter how paleo it might be :)

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 10:44 PM

"Maybe we have different ideas of what a BAS is." Glutton here. My BA consists of romaine plus either red or green leaf lettuce--4-6 cups total--plus 3-5 stalks of celery and leaves, 4-5" of cucumber and maybe 1/3 c grape tomatoes. If I have any I throw in 6-9 green salad olives. (To me) it tastes delicious, provides a nice "full" feeling--which we gluttons really enjoy--and lots of nice crunch. There's no doubt it makes me naturally eat much smaller portions of cooked veggies and meat and that's a good thing.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on March 31, 2012
at 10:14 PM

Eh, I guess I just disagree. In my opinion, there are small salads (6-8oz) that you might have with a main course, then there are large salads (~1 lb.) that would typically include some kind of protein and they would make up the bulk of your meal and then anything much larger than that would qualify as a big ass salad and I feel like eating anything more than the large salad indicates a pretty serious appetite. Obviously adjust those sizes for body weight (those would apply for someone 150-180lbs or so). Maybe we have different ideas of what a BAS is.

4d6aa1a676240b15dc569ff8ade0500f

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:54 PM

gluttony and over-eating is just what the name BIG ASS SALAD brings to mind. i don't think that those who regularly eat a BAS do so for the reason of stuffing themselves. maybe i'm misunderstand your point.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:46 PM

I suppose it doesn't have to be gluttonous. I just think the concept behind a BAS is that you can eat a shitload of food without eating a shitload of calories. I'm sure people would argue with me forever on this but I just don't think that's an optimal eating behavior. It's a way of indulging without the guilt that is usually included with indulging. Gluttonous probably does sound a bit harsh, I only used the term because the OP used it, but I do think the sentiment of gluttony is there.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on March 31, 2012
at 09:30 PM

Oh I dunno about that. A BAS is a lot of food but not a lot of calories so if one eats that to the point of fullness, without shoveling it down one's throat to the point of dressing dripping down one's chin, gluttonous seems a bit inappropriate.

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:06 PM

I just have to take the opportunity to say I HATE arugula. Blech. :D Good thing there's a zillion kinds of greens. :D

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:56 PM

"Rocket" is the English name, which comes from the French name, "roquette"

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:55 PM

"Rocket" is the English name, which comes from the French name, "roquet".

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Thanks, I'm very familiar with arugula (have some in the fridge at the moment even) but have never hear to it referred to as 'rocket'! I love learning something new on Paleohacks :)

C56baa1b4f39839c018180bf63226f7d

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:37 PM

I'm growing rocket/arugula in my garden this year. Endive too. Excitement!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:34 PM

It's a kind of green: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruca_sativa AKA arugula

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on March 31, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I'm intrigued by the 'rocket' in your salad... What the heck is this, or did autocorrect strike again? :)

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Different thing, same reaction--LOL--I'm too lazy to make "paleo desserts" when Mother Nature provided fruit but I do want the salad enough to do the chopping which does tell me something--don't ask me what, though. :-))

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:47 PM

I need crunch. Salad does that for me. Why the heck not eat something this totally healthy for pleasure? Food is not medicine.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:40 PM

@Paleo4ever, thanks! You're here, you're thinking/learning and you are not alone. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.:-))

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:19 PM

NANCE!!! this is a brilliant depiction of the signals, thoughts, and feelings that occur around a binge. You are brilliant, wise and very intuitive. Pure respect from a young, still scared of relapsing, "happened a couple times" binger. xo

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:00 PM

Wow, that sounds GOOD!

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

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on March 31, 2012
at 06:41 PM

I LOVE salads. I don't eat them to "save my life" as much as I eat them because, well I love food and vegetables too much:( Avocado, eggs and tomatoes are also staples in my salad. SO GOOD. But then I feel guilty for eating for pleasure, ha ha.

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1096aa84d006fe967128ffbd37e8070e

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on April 01, 2012
at 03:35 AM

I love a big salad, and not because Mark Sisson told me to! Making and eating a salad is a pretty sensory experience for me. I love the creativity that takes place; there are endless combinations and it's like hitting the jackpot of flavor sensations when it's done just right. The colors are gorgeous, and I enjoy the different textures. Plus, I feel really good when I'm getting lots of green in my diet.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 01, 2012
at 03:52 AM

Yay for salads! Thanks for commenting. It makes me feel so much better that other people make giant salads:)

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on April 01, 2012
at 05:25 PM

do-you-eat-a-big-ass-salad?

Yeah, I made this just for this PH question... feel free to steal it.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Let me put it this way--I have always loved BA salads for their own selves, but they are also an important player in my never-binge-again regimen.

If I sense myself getting "itchy" for large volumes of food, which was of course a daily occurrence when binge eating, I simply eat a pre-emptively large-volume meal: a whole grapefruit, a 4-6 cup leafy salad with celery and cukes and possibly grape tomatoes, cooked vegetables and fatty meat.

After that feast, my binge impulses can fire all they want and my gut just says "No" and there is no neo-binge.

Since the grapefruit and salad have such low true density, the stuffed feeling passes within an hour but by then my brain has caught up to my gut and sends a "never mind" signal.

Some of us just have to do what we have to do--it's either sit and crunch popcorn/chips/crackers or sit and crunch yummy salad. Happily for me, I actually enjoy the salad as much or more than I would have enjoyed the bad stuff--and there's no hangover of symptoms/reactions that night or the next morning.

44349dd8bf3bc226731d2f6bd42e8124

(318)

on April 01, 2012
at 10:37 PM

I've always thought there's not a human alive that has gotten fat from overeating salad or veggies... So a BAS here and there ain't going to hurt IMO.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 31, 2012
at 07:40 PM

@Paleo4ever, thanks! You're here, you're thinking/learning and you are not alone. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.:-))

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on March 31, 2012
at 07:19 PM

NANCE!!! this is a brilliant depiction of the signals, thoughts, and feelings that occur around a binge. You are brilliant, wise and very intuitive. Pure respect from a young, still scared of relapsing, "happened a couple times" binger. xo

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

(1617)

on April 01, 2012
at 02:54 AM

I love a big crunchy salad! So fresh and satisfying! But then, I am a 'recovering' vegetarian. ;-)

Eead82aa93bbcdada0bcd817d0952e58

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on May 12, 2012
at 07:36 PM

interesting, I actually have the opposite reaction to salad- I found myself never satisfied no matter the amount of flesh and fat and it triggered overeating later in the day to satisfy that anonymous craving

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:30 PM

I love them because they are a great way to eat a BIG lunch, they are easy if you prepare all your stuff at the beginning of the week, and I like to listen to 30 minute podcasts for my lunch break and salads take me FOREVER to eat, so that works out well. I think if you like the process of eating them, and you like to eat a big meal w/o going over board on calories, they are a great fit.

I do one big container, and layer the bottom with all the "extras"- julienne carrots and cukes, thin-cut bell peppers, halved cherry tom's, etc. On top of the "extras" goes all the mixed greens so they don't get wilted. In a separate little container I like to put "crunchies"- nuts, seeds, dried fruit. In another medium sized container that seals well I put usually salmon/sardines/tuna/shrimp/crab/chicken/ground beef/lamb and let it sit in the dressing (which varies depending on the week- can be salsa w/olive oil, italian, sesame, etc) all day so it really infuses it (plus, one less container). If I want an avocado, I bring it whole with a swiss army knife so it doesn't go brown and nasty, just cut it up fresh when I'm ready to eat. Invert everything into the large container, shake violently, eat. Delicious.

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Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on March 31, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I'm a gorilla and I just love a big, badass salad. I eat one almost every day. Mixed greens, cherry toms, avocado, boiled egg, carrots, peppers, cukes ...

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:47 PM

I need crunch. Salad does that for me. Why the heck not eat something this totally healthy for pleasure? Food is not medicine.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on March 31, 2012
at 06:41 PM

I LOVE salads. I don't eat them to "save my life" as much as I eat them because, well I love food and vegetables too much:( Avocado, eggs and tomatoes are also staples in my salad. SO GOOD. But then I feel guilty for eating for pleasure, ha ha.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on March 31, 2012
at 07:52 PM

There is nothing wrong with loving your food. If a big ass salad makes you happy and feels slightly indulgent or satisfying to you in any way mentally or emotionally I think that's a great thing. Now if you are forcing yourself to eat gobs of salad because you think you should or you must then I think those comments you referenced might apply. Otherwise I think it's more than fine for your healthy, whole foods diet to give you pleasure.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Personally, I can't be bothered unless someone makes it for me & it has bacon on it!

9ffe43c6c5990ed710c7c49b12d6ee7f

on April 01, 2012
at 07:21 AM

Same - I always tell myself I will start doing them but I find making salads a huge pain. Getting everything clean, cut into bite-sized pieces, and mixed just takes quite a while.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 31, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Different thing, same reaction--LOL--I'm too lazy to make "paleo desserts" when Mother Nature provided fruit but I do want the salad enough to do the chopping which does tell me something--don't ask me what, though. :-))

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7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on March 31, 2012
at 06:54 PM

I love Big Ass Salads. I'll also wilt certain salad greens as a side dish: today I sauteed a grass fed NY strip in a little bit of coconut oil. I put the steak on a plate, deglazed the pan with a splash of traditionally brewed mirin (a sweet Japanese rice wine), turned the burner off, and then threw in a big bunch of baby arugula and tossed to wilt.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:00 PM

Wow, that sounds GOOD!

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22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Eating a big ass salad is gluttonous. But being gluttonous is not a character flaw, it just means you're hungry. Being hungry usually means you're under-eating or that your body is receiving inadequate nutrition. So is eating a big ass salad ideal? Probably not. If you're going to eat a huge amount of something, you're best realistic option probably is going to be vegetables though.

I think the reason a point is made to say not to eat fruit or vegetables to excess is because, as Robb Wolf loves to say, the poison is in the dose. To think linearly, that because fruits and veggies are "good" for you, that the more you eat the better, is not correct. One reason that vegetables are so widely considered healthy is because it's hard to sustainably overeat them. They're comprised of mostly water and fiber and they don't taste particularly good. But if you decide to eat a 2 pound salad every day, you could encounter some accumulation of negative compounds contained in particular vegetables.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on April 01, 2012
at 06:05 AM

Gluttons unite! Do we need a support group?

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on March 31, 2012
at 10:14 PM

Eh, I guess I just disagree. In my opinion, there are small salads (6-8oz) that you might have with a main course, then there are large salads (~1 lb.) that would typically include some kind of protein and they would make up the bulk of your meal and then anything much larger than that would qualify as a big ass salad and I feel like eating anything more than the large salad indicates a pretty serious appetite. Obviously adjust those sizes for body weight (those would apply for someone 150-180lbs or so). Maybe we have different ideas of what a BAS is.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 31, 2012
at 10:44 PM

"Maybe we have different ideas of what a BAS is." Glutton here. My BA consists of romaine plus either red or green leaf lettuce--4-6 cups total--plus 3-5 stalks of celery and leaves, 4-5" of cucumber and maybe 1/3 c grape tomatoes. If I have any I throw in 6-9 green salad olives. (To me) it tastes delicious, provides a nice "full" feeling--which we gluttons really enjoy--and lots of nice crunch. There's no doubt it makes me naturally eat much smaller portions of cooked veggies and meat and that's a good thing.

4d6aa1a676240b15dc569ff8ade0500f

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:54 PM

gluttony and over-eating is just what the name BIG ASS SALAD brings to mind. i don't think that those who regularly eat a BAS do so for the reason of stuffing themselves. maybe i'm misunderstand your point.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:46 PM

I suppose it doesn't have to be gluttonous. I just think the concept behind a BAS is that you can eat a shitload of food without eating a shitload of calories. I'm sure people would argue with me forever on this but I just don't think that's an optimal eating behavior. It's a way of indulging without the guilt that is usually included with indulging. Gluttonous probably does sound a bit harsh, I only used the term because the OP used it, but I do think the sentiment of gluttony is there.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on March 31, 2012
at 09:30 PM

Oh I dunno about that. A BAS is a lot of food but not a lot of calories so if one eats that to the point of fullness, without shoveling it down one's throat to the point of dressing dripping down one's chin, gluttonous seems a bit inappropriate.

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:05 AM

"Being hungry usually means you're under-eating or that your body is receiving inadequate nutrition" ----- being hungry means just that your appetite is screwed - one always have plenty of stored fat in their own bodies to feed on

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

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on April 01, 2012
at 05:32 PM

Sometimes being hungry is just being hungry.

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C56baa1b4f39839c018180bf63226f7d

on March 31, 2012
at 08:15 PM

I love BASs, which is evidenced when you look at my receipts from pay-by-the-ounce salad bars. I pack as much into them as possible, avoiding silly additions like soy bacon bits and chow mein noodles, and when I get to the scale they usually weigh in at about 2.5 pounds. I don't consider a salad food unless there is protein on it, though. If in another context I get a salad that's just vegetables, it's "neutral filler," something to tide me over for an hour or two until I can get more substantial food, no matter how big-assed it is.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:04 PM

I'd rather cook down a bunch of greens (in a healthy fat) to a manageable volume than eat a pile of wet greens. But to each their own!

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55654ce63a9cca8d7736f79bee9720d1

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on April 02, 2012
at 02:10 AM

Two words: Cobb Salad. It's a salad so loaded with wonderful stuff on top, you won't even realize you're eating a mess of greens.

You can Google "Cobb salad" and get all the variants you'd ever care for but it's basically a bed of your favorite greens topped with:

  • Bacon
  • Chicken Breast
  • Avacado
  • Tomato
  • Hard boiled egg
  • Blue Cheese

You can add whatever else strikes your fancy, but it's a Paleo/Primal friendly meal.

No, eating salads for every meal isn't going to make you healthy by itself, but but this is a fine thing to eat, and it's DELICIOUS.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:19 PM

I would eat more salad if a wider variety of veg agreed with me. I'm pretty much stuck with rocket, carrots, avocado, onion and garlic. They are ok in small doses. I don't like olive oil either, so my salads tend to be very small and boring.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on March 31, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I'm intrigued by the 'rocket' in your salad... What the heck is this, or did autocorrect strike again? :)

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Thanks, I'm very familiar with arugula (have some in the fridge at the moment even) but have never hear to it referred to as 'rocket'! I love learning something new on Paleohacks :)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:34 PM

It's a kind of green: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruca_sativa AKA arugula

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:06 PM

I just have to take the opportunity to say I HATE arugula. Blech. :D Good thing there's a zillion kinds of greens. :D

C56baa1b4f39839c018180bf63226f7d

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:37 PM

I'm growing rocket/arugula in my garden this year. Endive too. Excitement!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 01, 2012
at 06:13 AM

:) It can be very peppery.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 31, 2012
at 08:55 PM

"Rocket" is the English name, which comes from the French name, "roquet".

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 31, 2012
at 08:56 PM

"Rocket" is the English name, which comes from the French name, "roquette"

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on April 01, 2012
at 06:03 PM

I prefer to use spring mix.

Ass is a bit gamey for me.

On a serious note, I like to make salads in a big mixing bowl. Usually 4 oz of salmon, 3-4 strips of bacon, red onion, cherry tomatos, cucumbers, crushed walnuts, a chopped avocado, and enough apple cider vinegar or lime juice to lube the thing (I'm getting enough 06 with the avocado and walnuts as is). I'll mix that with 50% spring mix (arugula, red romaine, endive, etc) and 50% spinach.

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C53665c3f012fa1ede91033b08a8a6e7

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on April 01, 2012
at 03:22 PM

I used to, but if I eat any amount approaching "big-ass" levels I'm running to the toilet the next day. Too much fiber for me.

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on March 31, 2012
at 10:09 PM

I usually eat veggies and fruit seperately not together.

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on March 31, 2012
at 09:39 PM

I eat Big Ass Salads all the time.. but as to the gorilla comment in the original post, my BASs are created with the omnivore in mind.

Here's one I had a couple of days ago: photo

Here's an older one: photo

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Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

on March 31, 2012
at 09:30 PM

I ate a bas nearly every day last week. I was feeling kind of gluttonous, but not after reading this!

my dinner salad: 4 or so cups of greens 1 boiled egg 1 avocado cucumber tomato chicken breast 2 T of almonds bacon s&p oil and balsamic

I could eat this every day. So satisfying!

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on March 31, 2012
at 07:50 PM

If it the only way you can get Greens into your diet, then DO but Kale and other green tops can easily be cooked into dishes. Salads are good but don't make it the only way to eat greens.

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53ba4017f8db7f5ebe4af165a3acda93

on March 31, 2012
at 07:26 PM

I love my big-ass salads, but they aren't full of fattening extras (croutons, etc.). Make my own very Paleo-friendly vinaigrette (actually a typical French vinaigrette is pretty Paleo anyway). If not for salads, I'd probably never get enough vegetables, just don't like most of them cooked.

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4d6aa1a676240b15dc569ff8ade0500f

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on March 31, 2012
at 06:44 PM

i love them! just had one with raw kale, cubed steamed sweet potato, 1/2 avocado, sun-dried tomato, olives, crumbled feta and sesame seeds.

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