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Depression and carbs

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Hi there! I am pretty new to the paleo diet. I have been on it for almost 3 weeks. I have lost 11 lbs so far. My main reason for going on it was for skin problems that I have. So far nothing has changed as far as that goes... but I think it's going to take ALOT longer on this lifestyle to make a change on my skin. I have these skin problems for about 11 years.

Well, last night I went off the paleo diet for social reasons (I know, I know, big regret!) I had 2 peices of pizza and maybe 6 orea cookies. Immediately afterward I got a really weird euphoric kind of feeling then started to feel like I was crashing. Then I got really irritable and angry. And today I feel really depressed. I woke up with a headache and an upset stomach this morning. Is this caused by the carbs and sugar I ate last night?? If so, I am making a permanent change! I hate feeling like this and I just feel like I am on the verge of tears right now.

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on November 25, 2011
at 04:29 PM

Brooke - if it's still causing you problems, it might be better for you to switch to organic pure aloe vera gel. I use food grade aloe vera gel in my smoothies and sometimes I put it on my face and scalp. It's more alkalizing, so if it burns your scalp, washing it out sooner won't hurt the benefits of using aloe vera gel instead. It is also very healing and soothing for hair and skin. Otherwise, there are other 'fatty' oils you can try using (jojoba oil is supposed to be very easily absorbed, for instance), but if the coconut oil wasn't working out, I would try the aloe vera gel myself.

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on November 25, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Brooke - if it's still causing you problems, it might be better for you to switch to organic pure aloe vera gel. I use food grade aloe vera gel in my smoothies and sometimes I put it on my face and scalp. It's more alkalizing, so if it burns your scalp, washing it out sooner won't hurt the benefits of using aloe vera gel instead. It is also very healing and soothing for hair and skin.

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on October 21, 2011
at 02:41 AM

How long did it take for your skin to adjust to putting coconut oil on it? I'd like to try using coconut oil on my face but I'm extremely acne prone. :)

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on October 21, 2011
at 01:57 AM

it wasn't just the sugar high, it's the gluten too. The gluten was probably even the main reason for why the crash was so bad, it's a drug too.

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on October 20, 2011
at 08:01 PM

@pleased, I don't think you're representing Lyle's work very accurately.

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Where did you get that lyle McDonald suffers from depression? Sure the dude is \brash and outspoken as hell but that doesn't mean he's depressed... he just has a huge ego and an attitude.

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Also keep in mind that, to improve your skin, you gotta stop nuts, fruits, nightshades and eggs, or you gotta find some good skin routines. Or both. Nuts made my skin way worse when I started binging on them, fruits gave me allergic skin reactions and eggs made the texture a tiny bit worse (I can tolerate eggs but I do better without them). Eating VLC with a good amount of coconut oil and other healthy saturated fats is awesome. I'd start supplementing on vitamin D (5000IU), vitamin K2 (5mg mk-4) and some others if you want.

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:29 PM

I totally agree with the coconut oil. I'm amazed that you kept using it on your skin, I deeply respect you for that. I do not agree with the cleanses though. Instead, I'd do the leptin reset or ZC for a while.

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:03 PM

Cheryl~ It's a normal reaction after being very low carb for awhile. Basically, you had a sugar high & then crashed. Eat some protein & you will feel better soon. To avoid this in the future, add some more paleo carbs slowly back in to your diet--sweet potatoes, for example, or a little fruit, if you can tolerate it.

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on October 20, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I have had similar experiences to what you describe, and the last time I got seriously depressed was when I tried following the advice of various paleo types who think eating a lot of tubers is okay. Thankfully, I knew it was the carbohydrates.

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on October 20, 2011
at 05:53 PM

One of the biggest opponents to the Paleo diet is a trainer named Lyle McDonald. he's one of those exercise gurus who analyze "science" and lends no credence to evolutionary/emotional theories. He eats a shit ton of carbs, is thin as hell (he's like a 40 something inline skater) and suffers from depression...

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on October 20, 2011
at 08:01 PM

@pleased, I don't think you're representing Lyle's work very accurately.

Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Where did you get that lyle McDonald suffers from depression? Sure the dude is \brash and outspoken as hell but that doesn't mean he's depressed... he just has a huge ego and an attitude.

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on October 20, 2011
at 05:51 PM

If you have skin problems, you should really consider doing a good quality natural liver detox. The liver has over 500 functions, including dealing with fat, carbs, cholesterol, deals in part with metabolism, is the bloods filter and detoxifier... so over the years all that junk food we eat, the air pollution, the chemicals in our cleaning products and everything else overwhelm the liver, becoming toxic, which is kind of ironic since it is the main detoxifying organ. When this happens it becomes sluggish, and excess toxins can continue circulating in the blood. Another organ that detoxifies the body is the skin. You can see when someone is detoxifying their liver because sometimes this results in skin rashes, but they subside. Drinking lots of water will help the toxins pass through the urine - ensuring you have good bowel movements (2-3 a day is ideal) will help toxins leave that can't be urinated. If you detoxify your liver, make sure you are getting decent bowel movements, because if you don't, the toxins in your bowels will just get reabsorbed into the blood stream again. This is important when doing any detox. And drinking lots of water is very important, too, to keep the blood clear. When you lose weight, you detoxify from toxins that are stored in fat. They are released into the blood. So in a way, losing weight is a way of detoxifying in and of itself, and may be contributing to your skin problems.

Eating a lot of good fats and oils is essential for healthy skin and hair, not to mention brain function. I use coconut oil on my skin all the time. When I first did it, I broke out - it wasn't because of the oils (the oils in coconut oil do not clog pores anyway) - it was because it was so effective for me that it pulled all the toxins out of my skin, causing an eruption. I continued using the coconut oil to detoxify from the skin eruptions. When they subsided, I had clear, radiant skin. I also eat a diet rich in good fats, and I detox regularly. People think I'm ten years younger than my biological age.

What also helps with overall health, including your skin, liver, and so on, is your colon health - if the colon is unhealthy, your skin can reflect that. A good, natural colon cleanse (detox) might be in order. Find a natural formula that contains l-glutamine that will heal any damage in your gut - I like the cleanses by Renew Life because they contain support nutrients, healing agents (like l-glutamine), nutrients that soothe and protect the intestines and their lining. Try to find a formula that contains antimicrobial nutrients which will kill the bad bacteria. Bad bacteria produce toxins that are absorbed into your blood - so even if you eat a healthy diet, your blood can still receive way too many intestinal toxins from a previous overgrowth of bad bacteria. Then drink some kefir which contains 5 billion good bacteria (with more bacterial strains than yogurt to boot) per tablespoon, which will help colonize the colon and small intestine with good bacteria and fight off the bad guys. If your colon is not clean and functioning optimally, toxins will be absorbed into the bloodstream and make the liver work harder to detox your blood. In fact, it is the main reason our livers are sluggish and toxic in the first place. So I always encourage a colon detox before the liver detox happens.

I hope this helps!

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:29 PM

I totally agree with the coconut oil. I'm amazed that you kept using it on your skin, I deeply respect you for that. I do not agree with the cleanses though. Instead, I'd do the leptin reset or ZC for a while.

Cc49234f065a33c763ab09fa234d08eb

(292)

on October 21, 2011
at 02:41 AM

How long did it take for your skin to adjust to putting coconut oil on it? I'd like to try using coconut oil on my face but I'm extremely acne prone. :)

244e1f82efb3fd15d2da39397488fb24

(549)

on November 25, 2011
at 04:29 PM

Brooke - if it's still causing you problems, it might be better for you to switch to organic pure aloe vera gel. I use food grade aloe vera gel in my smoothies and sometimes I put it on my face and scalp. It's more alkalizing, so if it burns your scalp, washing it out sooner won't hurt the benefits of using aloe vera gel instead. It is also very healing and soothing for hair and skin. Otherwise, there are other 'fatty' oils you can try using (jojoba oil is supposed to be very easily absorbed, for instance), but if the coconut oil wasn't working out, I would try the aloe vera gel myself.

244e1f82efb3fd15d2da39397488fb24

(549)

on November 25, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Brooke - if it's still causing you problems, it might be better for you to switch to organic pure aloe vera gel. I use food grade aloe vera gel in my smoothies and sometimes I put it on my face and scalp. It's more alkalizing, so if it burns your scalp, washing it out sooner won't hurt the benefits of using aloe vera gel instead. It is also very healing and soothing for hair and skin.

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on October 20, 2011
at 05:08 PM

I'm the same way -- lifelong severe, non-responding atopic dermatitis (meaning that it no longer responded to any drug therapy including steroids) DID respond to an ancestral diet with high fats (50% to 70% - and only animal fats like lard, butter, schmaltz, ghee; plus less then 20% coconut oil or macadamia nut oil) , relatively low carbohydrates (around 10-20%), and moderate protein (20-30%), as long as I'm careful about what I eat. If my intestines don't like it, neither does my skin. lol

I find that I can't do "cheat days" where I have SAD foods -- 'cause they make me s-a-d. Yes, I have a noticeable crash in mood when I eat grains and refined sugar. (Informationally, I also have it if I drink fruit juice or eat a lot of apples, pears, etc.). Instead, I eat a widely varied diet where the foods fluctuate over time -- and I include things like sweet potatoes, winter squash, berries of all kinds, coconut nectar, and cacao in there regularly... AND red wine on occasion, too!

I'd keep track of what you're eating and how your body feels over time. You'll start to recognize patterns after a while that will show you how what you're putting into your body is affecting it.

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on October 20, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Yes, that is caused by carbs and sugar from last night. Its not because those are evil, but because it was sudden change. It might be caused by evil gluten tho, not carbs. You probably had sugar surge [euphoria] then sugar drop [irritability/depression].

If you want to do that, I advise you to have regular cheat day. how

To fix it, go do some sports or exercise. You can take a very cold shower, 5 - 10 minutes, as cold as you can [ or contrast shower ].

You may try to add cinnamon next time to your sweets or after it, in coffee for instance.

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