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Data-mining PaleoHacks

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 04, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Hi All,

To my knowledge, there aren't much published data about the Paleo lifestyle other than a few observational studies on PubMed.

What would people think about adding something to PaleoHacks where people could enter in say their weight loss, strength gained, lipid numbers, etc? (Of course all information would be de-identified, every part of it voluntary. The goal is to learn not become Big Brother.)

Yes, it would be sampling from a biased group.

But from what I gather there are enough programmers & researchers (including yours truly) on here that we could capture the statistics of our group to perhaps discover more about the patterns of our community and maybe substantiate our claims on a broader level.

It would also be interesting to see if different clusters of say, eating patterns emerged. Think of it as a way of trying to see whether we can distill guidelines from our collective experiences.

Interested to hear your thoughts, Mike

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on March 07, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@Dr. K: any ideas on how we might be able to leverage this type of data to help spread the word? I'm definitely willing to help develop the solution. What we have on Paleo for Life right now is geared toward individual anecdotes; I imagine we would need something different for aggregate patient statistics.

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on March 06, 2011
at 03:16 PM

my personal data on osteopenia and porosis is now over 4 yrs old with over 1200 patients. I have been collecting this data since then.

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on March 04, 2011
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would be a great thing to do especially if we could link patients with paleo docs and load their data into a custom data base. I wonder if Cordain would have that ability? Robb Wolf has many docs listed on his site so I would imagine inviting them to enter data would be ideal. Maybe we could get a techy paleo guy to make an app for the ipad and iphone to collect and upload data to a housed DB?

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on March 04, 2011
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@American Renaissance: If you combing many people's observations perhaps trends emerge. (Perhaps not.) It occurred to me as an interesting and perhaps useful informatics exercise. A priori, I have no idea though if the data would be good enough to move beyond anecdotal evidence.

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on March 04, 2011
at 07:12 PM

I would gladly participate!

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on March 04, 2011
at 07:10 PM

That's quite in line with what I was proposing.

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on March 04, 2011
at 06:24 PM

Wouldn't it all be anecdotal evidence? Sure it would add statistics, but does it hold weight? I'm just thinking out loud(typing).

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on March 04, 2011
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on March 04, 2011
at 10:43 PM

We're trying to do something similar here:

http://www.paleoforlife.org/success

It's a bit different in that we want to collect information on how the Paleo diet has benefited specific health conditions (depression, migraines, etc.).

@American Renaissance: It's true that it's that we'll only be collecting anecdotes, but my thinking is that sufficient positive anecdotes is what eventually leads to actual clinical trials. It's like chicken soup: for a long time there are only anecdotes, but that didn't mean it doesn't work, and eventually someone decides to actually test it with controlled clinical trials.

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on March 06, 2011
at 03:16 PM

my personal data on osteopenia and porosis is now over 4 yrs old with over 1200 patients. I have been collecting this data since then.

7bea72ef073e8f76b5828727f1460900

(2718)

on March 07, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@Dr. K: any ideas on how we might be able to leverage this type of data to help spread the word? I'm definitely willing to help develop the solution. What we have on Paleo for Life right now is geared toward individual anecdotes; I imagine we would need something different for aggregate patient statistics.

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on March 04, 2011
at 07:54 PM

I think this is an excellent idea. I would add not only weight/ weight loss but also the time that you have been making paleo diet, a lipid panel data (tot. chol, HDL, LDL), any particular condition or ailment, and if possible a brief description of the (paleo sub-family" for instance low carb, or very low carb, or paleo with moderate fat, etc).

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on March 04, 2011
at 06:30 PM

It wasn't a large sample size, and it wasn't for an extended period of time, but I just put up some stats on my blog from our gym's recent paleo challenge.

http://perfectmike.com/2011/03/01/crossfit-santa-claras-paleo-challenge-results/

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on March 04, 2011
at 07:10 PM

That's quite in line with what I was proposing.

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