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Corn chips better than almonds/peanuts ? (from an Omega 6 perspective at least)

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 25, 2012 at 12:29 AM

According to Mr. Cronometer.com , ounce per ounce, corn chips have less omega 6 than peanut butter or almond butter.

After 3 months of Paleo, and reading paleohacks.com each day, I still don't understand why nuts seem to enjoy a magical, wholesome and "paleo-ish" status, whereas corn chips do not.

What's going on with all the anti-chip-bigots?

Remind me why peanut butter (or almond butter), with all of its anti-nutrients and omega 6 is so much better than some corn chips? (as part of a balance diet, making sure not to over-do either).

From a N6:N3 ratio perspective, even grass fed beef has more omega 6 than omega 3. It doesn't take many nuts or chips to throw the ratio totally out of whack.

Thanks, Mike

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on September 03, 2013
at 08:34 PM

Matt, I agree. I no longer worry about chickpeas, lentils and most other beans - apart from the carb content since I'm diabetic.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on May 25, 2012
at 04:06 PM

As to your order Joy, I agree 100% on eating less sugar. I feel that's been a really positive change for me in the last 3 months. Also, getting over my long held anti-saturated fat belief was really important as well. Perhaps my #2 on the list might be avoiding highly oxidizable PUFA.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on May 25, 2012
at 04:03 PM

Thanks Joy. BTW, my question wasn't due to poor reading comprehension during the last 3 months, but rather I'm hacking what appears to be a histamine reaction problem which means certain foods which would otherwise be great on Paleo, are off limits right now (like avocado, banana). So, I'm re-examine my "beliefs" and previously banned foods to re-assess and tweak and I refine my diet.

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on May 25, 2012
at 02:30 PM

Well, I don't really think about it that much anymore and it has been a while since I have read anything definitive on these issues, I tend to think that what I shouldn't eat I shouldn't eat. Here is my order anyway- 1. Sugar- eat less 2. lectins, antinutrients (grains) keep them out. 3. N6-N3...

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on May 25, 2012
at 02:21 PM

@Joy, it's not that I missed it. I read plenty of paleo peeps here snacking on nuts which have lectins, bad N6:N3 ratios, and anti-nutrients. Since I'm spending a lot of time lately on cronometer.com analyzing my diet, maybe I was placing too much emphasis on the N6:N3 ratio, and not on lectins. @Joy, in your mind, what's the order of Paleo importance for 'not eating grains', N6:N3 ratio, anti-nutrients, etc.?

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on May 25, 2012
at 02:04 PM

Corn... Are you for serial here? Corn is like the grainiest grain of all grains.. 1st rule of paleo- don't eat grains. Or was it don't talk about Paleo? Grains are not paleo. Sorry to hear you have been here 3 months and missed that.

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:42 AM

Even worse, peanut lectins are particularly nasty. They damage the gut lining, increasing intestinal permeability/leaky gut, setting you up for or making any autoimmune or disease of inflammation worse.

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:30 AM

Spot on with aflatoxin in peanuts. I don't think other legumes however deserve the reputation paleo has given them. Traditional preparations mitigate their problems.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:26 AM

good point on the 'not-nuts' point. I'm going to edit my post before more people read it. thx

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:24 AM

Corn chips have been the hardest thing for me to give up. I don't really know why?

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on May 25, 2012
at 12:42 AM

Peanuts are not nuts. And many paleohackers limit even tree nuts due to n6.

Peanut butter has never been paleo as peanuts are a legume. Even if you allow some legumes, peanuts, soy beans and kidney beans have pretty strong arguments against them. For peanuts it's the aflatoxin first, followed by the high n6. (Full dislosure - I still eat peanuts from time to time.)

Some people have a hard time digesting corn, others seem okay with some corn. Corn chips are not corn. Fritos only has three ingredients: corn, corn oil, salt. The manufacturing process itself may be problematic, but as I see it, the biggest problem is the corn oil. Pretty high in n6, used to cause fatty liver in rats and to kill people (as in the Rose Corn Oil Trial). Oh, it also lowers cholesterol! Good luck with that. "Yes he is dead, but his cholesterol is amazing!"

Yeah, maybe corn chips ARE better from an n6 perspective. But neither are gonna get a lot of love around here. (And I miss them both)

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:26 AM

good point on the 'not-nuts' point. I'm going to edit my post before more people read it. thx

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on May 25, 2012
at 01:30 AM

Spot on with aflatoxin in peanuts. I don't think other legumes however deserve the reputation paleo has given them. Traditional preparations mitigate their problems.

A980a13555ef30d83a0da52761606039

on May 25, 2012
at 01:42 AM

Even worse, peanut lectins are particularly nasty. They damage the gut lining, increasing intestinal permeability/leaky gut, setting you up for or making any autoimmune or disease of inflammation worse.

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

(1478)

on May 25, 2012
at 01:24 AM

Corn chips have been the hardest thing for me to give up. I don't really know why?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on September 03, 2013
at 08:34 PM

Matt, I agree. I no longer worry about chickpeas, lentils and most other beans - apart from the carb content since I'm diabetic.

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