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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 08, 2012
at 02:30 AM

Thanks for the investment advice...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:29 AM

No you just randomly throw out off-handed accusations... Thanks for that, and all your other hard work.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:28 AM

Well, you've gone from 6 downvotes to 18 in a few minutes. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this one out. Anyway, good luck to you.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:24 AM

Look, whoever you are - wherever you are. It's apparent to me that you did not take my comment in the spirit in which it was intended. I don't know why that is, but I regret that it happened. Beyond that, I don't care to get into fights anymore, least of all cyber fights with people I've never met. Take care.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:23 AM

Thanks for more random sharing, if you are accusing me of something say it.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:20 AM

It appears that every answer I've ever given to any question was down voted within the span of a few minutes, probably faster than they could be read. That's interesting.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:20 AM

I didn't give advice. My friend said "what ya been doin'" and I answered. I don't see that "My friend isn't feeling well, anyone know why" is properly answered with "Don't give tax advice". Or "You shouldn't have told him what you were doing" Thanks a lot.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Huh. Maybe fruit *does* make one crabby.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:17 AM

We don't seem to be reading the same text. My answer to you was that I don't give advice to friends. That's a valid answer. I don't see where anyone called you a jerk.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:15 AM

The OP wanted advice for a friend not to have two guys tell him he was a jerk for telling that friend what he, the OP, was doing himself. I tried to deleted after the first set of knuckle heads started talking crap, the other answers came after. I can't help that I'm not allowed to delete the post. I don't see how being told "don't share your experience" is valid advice.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:14 AM

I am at a loss to understand this entire episode.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:09 AM

Click on the edited x mins ago part under the question to see the edits

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:09 AM

Wow .. every time I refresh, someone has edited this page again. At least the OP isn't name-calling any more, I guess that's something.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:07 AM

Does anyone still have the text of the original question? I'm all aflame with curiosity now, all these answers seem quite reasonable and sane to me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Clearly I can't delete it or I would, nor will the moderator do it. JayJay - If you think PaleoDel and Ralph were answering a question reasonably you are fuckin' nuts.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:54 AM

Actually I see four very thoughtful people answering your question reasonably. If you think this is harsh .....run....run now!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:52 AM

Yup, difference of opinion. Thought PaleoDel gave some good advice :). Good luck to you.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:51 AM

"Discretion is the better part of valor."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:40 AM

When I get told how awful a person I am for telling a friend what I personally did to speed up my own weight loss and get some idiot maundering on about how he never shares any info with his friends I know it's a lost cause and the post isn't going anywhere. If you don't see PaleoDel comment about how big a jerk I was as being a jerk...well ok that's a difference of opinion. Either way I don't give a crap. If people want to yuck up someones problems let 'em.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on March 08, 2012
at 01:24 AM

I still don't see where anyone was being a jerk.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:22 AM

Umm, closing a question, doesn't quite work like that either. I'm still typing here, so it isn't really closed. You can flag it for a moderator or delete it if you like though.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:18 AM

It is also important to let a question ride for at least a few days to get some good answers. 49 minutes, and then declaring that this is pointless is a bit...rash.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:16 AM

It is also important to let a question ride for at least a few days to get some good answers. 55 minutes, and then declaring that this is pointless is a bit...rash.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Yes, what Happy said.

78972387772c994caa78513a83978437

(2290)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Obviously we all want to look now because it is mysteriously 'closed'. Sometimes it takes a bit longer to generate a response. We aren't all sitting refreshing the page and commenting on every thread.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:13 AM

Chillax darlin'.....I had to go back and reread your question pre-edit cause it wasn't making any sense in present form. This is how crowd sourcing info works, we aren't docs, just a peanut gallery, you get the good with the bad, hence the voting system, up and down vote based on helpfulness of the answer. If someone is hatin', downvote accordingly. You are going need a thicker skin and a little more patience to get much out of this place.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:08 AM

Why? The answers are useless...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I don't agree with the fact this change wasn't an improvement but what the jerks above aren't getting is this a real guy, not an abstraction. He used to eat huge amounts of carb, went low-carb and even ramping up for 2 weeks is now unable to tolerate 1/2 cup of blueberries? Nevermind.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:58 AM

I wouldn't delete your question because of other folks, Master of the Mayo Lard. Leave it up. Sometimes it takes a bit more patience and/or work to get along with our fellow caveman brethren, but that's okay!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:48 AM

Ok, great, now we've established your moral superiority perhaps you could actually address the question being asked, instead of the one in your head?

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

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on March 08, 2012
at 12:43 AM

@Ralph, that's usually what I do too. And I bite my tonge a LOT! ;-)

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Unhelpful is telling someone who is having success to stop what they're doing and do what you works for you. Clearly your friend needs to listen to his body and go back to what was working before.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:37 AM

I never give my friends investment advice. I'm glad to tell them how I am investing and what sort of financial and economic trends I am watching, but I never give them advice. I also never give them exercise advice or nutrition advice. Again, I will be glad to tell them what I am doing and how I am eating. This way, I'm never responsible if it doesn't work out for them. That???s just me though and my friends remain friendly, they verify things for themselves and make their own decisions.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 08, 2012
at 12:25 AM

Unhelpful much? Are you really telling me that if a friend says "Man you've been kickin' ass in the last month or two what did you change!?" I should lie to him? Tell him "It's a secret"? Or are you under the impression that I forced him to eat a bowl of berries and a little rice at gun point?

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6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

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on March 08, 2012
at 12:17 AM

I think you should have let your friend continue to eat the way that was working for him. What works for you may not work for everyone. I know that adding starch and fruit causes real problems for me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:48 AM

Ok, great, now we've established your moral superiority perhaps you could actually address the question being asked, instead of the one in your head?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:25 AM

Unhelpful much? Are you really telling me that if a friend says "Man you've been kickin' ass in the last month or two what did you change!?" I should lie to him? Tell him "It's a secret"? Or are you under the impression that I forced him to eat a bowl of berries and a little rice at gun point?

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:37 AM

I never give my friends investment advice. I'm glad to tell them how I am investing and what sort of financial and economic trends I am watching, but I never give them advice. I also never give them exercise advice or nutrition advice. Again, I will be glad to tell them what I am doing and how I am eating. This way, I'm never responsible if it doesn't work out for them. That???s just me though and my friends remain friendly, they verify things for themselves and make their own decisions.

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:43 AM

@Ralph, that's usually what I do too. And I bite my tonge a LOT! ;-)

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:51 AM

"Discretion is the better part of valor."

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Unhelpful is telling someone who is having success to stop what they're doing and do what you works for you. Clearly your friend needs to listen to his body and go back to what was working before.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:33 AM

If you would have let the question stand for a little longer I could have given you a real answer like this:

Heart pounding after eating and pain near the xyphoid process can be related to slow stomach emptying. Sometimes it is caused by a timing glitch in the release of digestive enzymes. If he either has not eaten much fruit or starch in a while, the enzymes necessary for their breakdown may have been down regulated and there will be an adjustment period before digestion works better. If wants to he can supplement with digestive enzymes to see if that helps. Sometimes smaller meals can help too.

Also eating fruit after meals can produce this symptom in people even if they don't have problems eating fruit by itself or before meals.

As for the crankiness, if he was in ketosis most of the time, blood sugar can get disregulated coming out of it, and there can be a bit of a mood roller coaster. It really depends where he is and what he is adapted to.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 08, 2012
at 12:49 AM

No idea, but have him cut out the starch/fruit & see if his symptoms go away. It may not be related.

Correlation does not equal causation.

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0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 08, 2012
at 12:52 AM

Depending on if your friend was anywhere between low-carb to zero-carb, the sudden addition of any significant amount of carbs could have as much of an impact on a number of things as being high-carb and then dropping carbs completely. Hard to say about those specific symptoms, but from my own experience and what I've read about others, it seems best to ramp up or down slowly on carbs, fat or protein.

In other words, I think it's entirely possible to notice your body's reaction to drastic changes such as eating an average of 50 grams of carbs/protein/fat every day for however long and then spontaneously increasing it three-fold or more, or vice-versa. Someone else may know better about your friend's actual symptoms, but it may be helpful to know what his carb intake was like before (and for how long) and what he changed it to.

I can't say I don't agree with the suggestions to let him go back to what was working before and to also be careful with giving actual advice to anyone. You did ask a fair question, though, so maybe you'll get some better answers than mine!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 08, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I don't agree with the fact this change wasn't an improvement but what the jerks above aren't getting is this a real guy, not an abstraction. He used to eat huge amounts of carb, went low-carb and even ramping up for 2 weeks is now unable to tolerate 1/2 cup of blueberries? Nevermind.

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