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cholesterol, cad/chd concern

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 01, 2011 at 6:30 PM

let's first get out of the way i'm not 100% paleo, nor do i wish to get a sermon as to why the "all or nothing" approach is magical for you.
I have a question regarding increase in blood cholesterol levels (which I'm aware low is more dangerous than high) and the potential for an increase in CHD on an 80% paleo diet. My concern is that of having normal levels of chol. after yrs of eating (what i thought was healthy) and a decrease in the ELC (ear lobe crease, which can be indicative of CHD/CAD) [coronary heart/artery disease].
After about half a year into the moderately paleo lifestyle, i've noticed the ELC is back and deeper than i ever recall it being. studies indicate this is due to an increase in saturated fat, obesity & dietary cholesterol. What information do you all have and/or recommendations? This is definitely a concern as I do not wish to walk the same path as some of my family members.

thank you.

020053fd576e93d1d8fa20bfb10979b9

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Ha, ha Nance. He thinks I'm a nutcase because of the way I eat and workout. Little does he know that is the LEAST of my nuttiness. I've been enjoying your posts/answers.

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:46 PM

Gotta say, I've never heard of this ELC thing. Very interesting.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:17 PM

Doing well re: CHD does not eliminate the possibility you might be a bit of a nutcase. I personally think that's something to be proud of. :-))

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 01, 2011
at 07:56 PM

You've triggered my curiosity because I have creases in both earlobes. :O

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on December 01, 2011
at 07:19 PM

That's the researcher in me, it's often fascinating digging out what studies actually showed compared to how they are reported

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on December 01, 2011
at 07:11 PM

indeed. my wording shows ignorance. studies can indicate anything you want them to... touche'!

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on December 01, 2011
at 07:10 PM

thank you for taking the time to share links. much appreciated.

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Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:59 PM

studies indicate this is due to an increase in saturated fat, obesity & dietary cholesterol

Studies that tend to indicate all these things together are generally rooted in the same flawed science. From what you've said, I would guess that (if any of it's true at all) the ELC correlates with dietary saturated fat and cholesterol. They've then used CW to relate either of these to obesity and either from there, or directly, concluded a correlation between ELC and CHD. I'd be highly sceptical of how such studies are reported.

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on December 01, 2011
at 07:11 PM

indeed. my wording shows ignorance. studies can indicate anything you want them to... touche'!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on December 01, 2011
at 07:19 PM

That's the researcher in me, it's often fascinating digging out what studies actually showed compared to how they are reported

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020053fd576e93d1d8fa20bfb10979b9

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:10 PM

Maybe actually redoing your lipid panel would put you at ease or make you reconsider your diet especially if your triglycerides are high. My total cholesterol is now, after 14 months "paleo" at 229mg/dl and was flagged high by the lab however my triglycerides are 45 (down from a whopping 179) and HDL checked in at 72 (up from 61) so all the ratios put me at the lowest/negative risk for CHD. My doctor started to fuss about the "high" cholesterol, read the next couple of lines, and said, "never mind, keep doing what you're doing." Which is a lot coming from him because he thinks I'm a bit of a nutcase.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:17 PM

Doing well re: CHD does not eliminate the possibility you might be a bit of a nutcase. I personally think that's something to be proud of. :-))

020053fd576e93d1d8fa20bfb10979b9

(410)

on December 01, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Ha, ha Nance. He thinks I'm a nutcase because of the way I eat and workout. Little does he know that is the LEAST of my nuttiness. I've been enjoying your posts/answers.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Here's a link to discussion about the ear lobe crease issue, which appears to be speculative at best.

Another link

I feel no need to preach to you and I respect your right to choose; I also assume you don't whine when you're sick. :-))

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on December 01, 2011
at 07:10 PM

thank you for taking the time to share links. much appreciated.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 01, 2011
at 07:56 PM

You've triggered my curiosity because I have creases in both earlobes. :O

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on February 08, 2013
at 05:20 PM

The evidence is overwhelming that ELC does indicate CHD. I would not listen to the paleo people completely. They are a pretty good bunch, nobody here is a MD. I would totally discuss it with your doctor asap!

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