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Carbs and Beans

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Created July 27, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Okay I am COMPLETELY confused. I know Paleo's don't usually eat beans, and I didn't for a while (tried >20 carbs as well as a time of >50 carbs per day) but I felt like complete and utter crap most of that time. I wasn't even eating any type of fruit, and this was after already being Paleo for 6 months, so it's not like I was having carb withdrawels or something for six months.

According to this article http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-primal-carbohydrate-continuum/#axzz21mfTn6mc

After reading that a few days ago I thought hmm. As long as I don't eat more than 100 carbs PER DAY and I don't go over my calories for the day I should be okay with my weight right? Since then i've added in some berries, and beans (mostly garbanzo) in the past few days and I feel GREAT.

I almost instantly felt better since reintroducing those two things, and I still never go over 100 carbs per day. But I've also read A LOT of other people say that if you still want to lose weight (which I do) >20 carbs or >50 is the only way to get there. But that's totally against the article I just posted. I wasn't seeing drastic results with low carb, only NO energy :/ So who is right? I don't want to stop losing weight and i certainly DO NOT want to GAIN weight, so is eating beans and some berries okay as long as I don't go over 100g of carbs a day like the article says? Please HELP!

Btw, in case this matters at all, I am 5"1, 116 lbs and 16 years old. Thank you!

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

quinoa? I thought that was a grain? and that is so sad to hear about chickpeas :( well I guess for the starch part of each meal, if not already having starchy vegetables, I will try to have squash and stuff more often than chickpeas! that seems to be the verdict! that I can have them as a choice of starch sometimes, but that there are pretty options!

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on July 27, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Amber, you're not alone. I do the same :) It's like how people snack on popcorn, I would snack on chickpeas (but I always rinse canned chickpeas really well before eating them).

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:20 PM

I want to second ogberg. Weight loss should not be your concern. I would suggest trying to do some strength training to increase lean mass which will help with body composition. Don't worry about your weight, that's just a number. worry about your composition!

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Though, it could just be the carbs, thing, too.

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:13 PM

Has spinach been really good to you, too? It's also high in folate.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:44 PM

Wow very interesting point! Maybe I wasn't eating enough vegetables either! so my folate levels were exceptionally low? Cause all I can say is since I've added those garbanzos back I feel FANTASTIC, and maybe a few more veggies combined will be even better!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:39 PM

hmm how interesting! Are beans the only high source of folate?

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:13 PM

While it varies between different ethnic populations, a high percentage of people (10-50%) have at least one bad copy of the MTHFR gene. It encodes a protein that methylates folic acid to make folate. So if you have a mutation in one or both copies of that gene, you may need a little more folate (the methylated, active form of folic acid) in your diet. And that might explain why someone would do well with some beans in their diet. Chris Masterjohn had an interesting blog post about it: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2011/03/anyone-doing-paleo-without-liver-bones.html

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at 03:57 PM

My absolute favorite way to eat them is out of a can(at least their soaked right? easier to digest I've read?) with a little unheated olive oil and salt. It's my favorite thing in the world I don't know why ahah

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Ahhh both of you make a good point, I think I'm better still staying away from any grain, but I will definitely test out the squash and yam recommendations! Thanks!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:49 PM

I'm not alone haha yay! But okay that sounds like a very good idea, I will have to try that!! I've never read up on folate? I'll have to look into it thank you!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Okay thank you Team Oberg, I just have found it's taken a lot of fine tuning to figure out the best way to KEEP my weight or LOSE weight. I've lost 15 lbs, just trying to lose A FEW more, by no means do I plan on going anorexic (God help them) just watched a Dr. Phil show on that, scary stuff. Thank you though!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 03:44 PM

Okay thank you Team Oberg, I just have found it's taken a lot of fine tuning to figure out the best way to keep my weight or LOSE weight. I've lost 15 lbs, just trying to lose A FEW more, by no means do I plan on going anorexic (God help them) just watched a Dr. Phil show on that, scary stuff. Thank you though!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:39 PM

Hmm good to know! I used to eat a lot of plain baked sweet potatoes months ago, and I DID always feel tired with feelings of a sugar rush now that I think about it. But youre right, I don't know if it's even worth the trouble to eat them if they don't taste good! Can I avoid BG spike if I pan roast them in some coconut oil rather than BAKE them? :/ Boiled just sounds unappealing ahah :P

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Hmm good to know! I used to eat a lot of plain baked sweet potatoes months ago, and I DID always feel tired with feelings of a sugar rush. But your not, I don't know if it's even worth the trouble to eat them if they don't taste good! Can I avoid this if I pan roast them in some coconut oil rather than BAKE them? :/

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:34 PM

My absolute favorite way to eat them is out of a can(at least their soaked right? easier to digest I've read?) with a little olive oil and salt. It's my favorite thing in the world I don't know why ahah

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:44 PM

UR right, brother. Boiled is the way to go! Try eating sweet potatoes roasted and you'll see your BG spike. Boil them! Might not be as tasty but it's healthier!

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:43 PM

Let me ask you: how do you eat chickpeas? As a sidedish or you mean as in Tahini?

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:33 PM

You also have to soak out the bitter saponins, which IMO makes it no better than any other whole grain.

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:16 PM

many will shun quinoa because of it's high cab load. It shouldn't be eaten every day, but it also shouldn't be avoided completely (especially if you are having trouble getting in enough carbs). Technically quinoa is a pseudocereal, it is not a grass or a grain. But, even more important, quinoa is gluten free, very low phytic acid, very few anti-nutrients, and quinoa is one of the few vegetarian options that provides a complete protein and all nine essential amino acids. It's also chock full of other goodies like Manganese, Iron, Copper, etc. Just eat in moderation

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:03 PM

Thank you very much YoungPaleoLover!! according to the responces if beans work, then eat them, but if I can choose a different, healthier, starch more often than I should. So I will try to do this :)

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:57 PM

quinoa? I thought that was a grain? and that is so sad to hear about chickpeas :( well I guess for the starch part of each meal, if not already having starchy vegetables, I will try to have squash and stuff more often than chickpeas! that seems to be the verdict! that I can have them as a choice of starch sometimes, but that there are better options!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:53 PM

okay thank you so much!!

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:09 PM

People are supposed to have a little fat around their midsection, especially women.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 27, 2012
at 07:25 AM

Ya and keep your veggie intake really high!!!!! Veggies have lots of fiber and fill you up really quickly and are really good for you. Plus theres such a variety.

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:24 AM

Beans are legumes-- technically they can be bothersome to the digestive Tract. Sweet potatoes and yams are the way to go (especially when boiled) as they break down in your body slower and cause less of an insulin spike than beans or white potatoes. Same with squashes. Still you could eat white potatoes a couple times a week if you need to in place of yams.

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:21 AM

You aren't even overweight Amber!!! And you are 16! Do what your body asks and feed it the whole foods it wants.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:18 AM

thank you so much for all your responces! Every single one was very helpful!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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at 04:47 AM

Huh! Good to know!! That is so awesome, thank you! I will try to do more strength training!

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:10 AM

I totally agree with the above comment. I'll add that since you are already at a healthy weight, and still growing that focusing on building strength and gaining muscle will get you where you want to be. I have a weird theory that how you use you body during your teens affects your body in later life. I did yoga as a teen ans still retain alot of flexibility 20 years later. My husband put on muscle working construction at 18 and has retained it despite doing nothing since. My advice is to work on getting strong and keep eating beans if they work for you!

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:42 AM

No prob. Potatoes and sweet potatoes have about the same carb content as garbonzo beans, butternut squash about half. And yeah, I would say I think they're healthier choices, but the difference isn't huge IMO.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Interesting! Another reason I chose chickpeas over things like sweet potatoes though is because I thought the sugar content was lower? For example http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4326/2 and http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2667/2 The beans are still lower carbs and sugars so wouldn't it be better for you? I'm confused again haha.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:17 AM

The glycemic index of Sweet potatoes is much lower than the one in, lets say, Russet, Red, etc.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:07 AM

Thank you so much for your really sweet response! I really appreciate your advice, but like I mentioned to someone earlier it's not so much WEIGHT I want to lose but FAT, which I seem to carry around my stomach a little. But I will try to consider potatoes, or"tubers" more regularly than beans per yours' everyone elses' recommendation on this thank you!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Thank you so much for your really sweet response! I really appreciate your advice, but like I mentioned to someone earlier it's not so much WEIGHT I want to lose but FAT, which I seem to carry around my stomach a little. But I try to consider potatoes and such instead of beans sometimes per yours' everyone elses' recommendation on this thank you!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Well its not so much WEIGHT i want to lose, but fat, I seem to carry a little fat around my midsection but thank you for your advice I appreciate it!!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:50 AM

Thank you so much! I'm going to have to look into the carb content of butternut squash, potatoes and things now. Are they really that much healthier? and would you or anyone else happen to know the carb comparison of say a potato or butternut squash to beans? I can use handy google if no one here knows but jw :)

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:48 AM

I'm going to have to look into the carb content of butternut squash, potatoes and things now. Would you or anyone happen to have the carb comparison to beans? Are they really that much better? I can use handy google if no one here knows but jw :)

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Hmm okay you are the second person to say that, if I need to up my carbs, maybe I will turn to these things instead thank you!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:46 AM

Eating potatoes is better for you thank chickpeas? Wow I honestly never would of thought that. I thought potatoes were considered a grain practically! Hmmm okay so maybe have more vegetables and squash, potatoes etc, instead of beans? The thought scares me. I haven't had a potateo in longer than six months... and that was not eassy to give up :/

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:43 AM

I'm a chickpea fan too, my older brother even nicknamed me chickpea haha! and cuidos to you, paleo is awesome!!! and thank you very much, I try to stick to berries :)

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A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:31 AM

If you're seeing benefits from eating beans I say eat em, who cares if they're paleo or not. Tubers and root vegetables are probably a better source of carbs, but that doesn't mean you should shun beans if they work for you.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:42 AM

No prob. Potatoes and sweet potatoes have about the same carb content as garbonzo beans, butternut squash about half. And yeah, I would say I think they're healthier choices, but the difference isn't huge IMO.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:50 AM

Thank you so much! I'm going to have to look into the carb content of butternut squash, potatoes and things now. Are they really that much healthier? and would you or anyone else happen to know the carb comparison of say a potato or butternut squash to beans? I can use handy google if no one here knows but jw :)

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 02:48 AM

I'm going to have to look into the carb content of butternut squash, potatoes and things now. Would you or anyone happen to have the carb comparison to beans? Are they really that much better? I can use handy google if no one here knows but jw :)

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:42 AM

With your height/weight/age it's absurd for you to lose weight. Don't play games with your body right now, it's doing enough to you as it is.

That said, some people can have them, some can't. Do what works for you.

0e2bd01a4b24c10af91033fe5dcf3b07

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:09 PM

People are supposed to have a little fat around their midsection, especially women.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Well its not so much WEIGHT i want to lose, but fat, I seem to carry a little fat around my midsection but thank you for your advice I appreciate it!!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 04:47 AM

Huh! Good to know!! That is so awesome, thank you! I will try to do more strength training!

Eea6a68f5a7190d13c60e1c72417a581

(1376)

on July 27, 2012
at 04:10 AM

I totally agree with the above comment. I'll add that since you are already at a healthy weight, and still growing that focusing on building strength and gaining muscle will get you where you want to be. I have a weird theory that how you use you body during your teens affects your body in later life. I did yoga as a teen ans still retain alot of flexibility 20 years later. My husband put on muscle working construction at 18 and has retained it despite doing nothing since. My advice is to work on getting strong and keep eating beans if they work for you!

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:43 AM

One thing concerns me and that is you are at a healthy weight range for your height (according to numerous charts I just looked at). I'm thinking if you continue to eat clean, if a few beans and some fruit make you feel good, then your weight shouldnt be an issue. A healthy weight range for a small frame is between 106-118. I also would echo the idea of going for something like sweet potatoes and other tubers as well, but beans certainly aren't the worst thing in the world. Please rethink your need to lose weight. You're young, still growing and already you're so far ahead of the masses by choosing to eat so healthy. I applaud you!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Thank you so much for your really sweet response! I really appreciate your advice, but like I mentioned to someone earlier it's not so much WEIGHT I want to lose but FAT, which I seem to carry around my stomach a little. But I try to consider potatoes and such instead of beans sometimes per yours' everyone elses' recommendation on this thank you!!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 03:07 AM

Thank you so much for your really sweet response! I really appreciate your advice, but like I mentioned to someone earlier it's not so much WEIGHT I want to lose but FAT, which I seem to carry around my stomach a little. But I will try to consider potatoes, or"tubers" more regularly than beans per yours' everyone elses' recommendation on this thank you!!

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Also, I need to mention that at 116lbs, you do not need to lose weight, and at 16 extreme dieting can quickly sprial into an eatin disorder(if you are not already there). Stop obsessing about macronutrients and just eat healthy food, you will lose weight. Eat meat, fruits, veggies, and fat, your body will figure the rest out on its own.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Okay thank you Team Oberg, I just have found it's taken a lot of fine tuning to figure out the best way to KEEP my weight or LOSE weight. I've lost 15 lbs, just trying to lose A FEW more, by no means do I plan on going anorexic (God help them) just watched a Dr. Phil show on that, scary stuff. Thank you though!!

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on July 27, 2012
at 07:20 PM

I want to second ogberg. Weight loss should not be your concern. I would suggest trying to do some strength training to increase lean mass which will help with body composition. Don't worry about your weight, that's just a number. worry about your composition!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on July 27, 2012
at 03:44 PM

Okay thank you Team Oberg, I just have found it's taken a lot of fine tuning to figure out the best way to keep my weight or LOSE weight. I've lost 15 lbs, just trying to lose A FEW more, by no means do I plan on going anorexic (God help them) just watched a Dr. Phil show on that, scary stuff. Thank you though!!

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:24 AM

Legumes in general are shunned by the Paleo/Primal lifestyle, the reason being, their high content of Phytic acid, anti-nutrients and insoluble fibers. Legumes where never abundantly available to early humans, they became a staple in human diet, not earlier than 10,000 years ago, which is a minuscule fraction of the human existence. I would recommend that if you want to increase your intake of carbs, there are much better options, e.g. Sweet potatoes, Yams, Green and ripe plantains, berries...

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Hmm okay you are the second person to say that, if I need to up my carbs, maybe I will turn to these things instead thank you!

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 27, 2012
at 07:25 AM

Ya and keep your veggie intake really high!!!!! Veggies have lots of fiber and fill you up really quickly and are really good for you. Plus theres such a variety.

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:21 AM

There are SO many other (and better) sources of carbs! Potatoes, squashes, root vegetables, yucca, plantains, etc. If you're doing low-carb and not eating organ meats, you need to make up for the imbalance of nutrients by varying your veggies and fruits. You can't eat just beans and berries every day.

Leafy greens such as turnip, mustard and collard greens are low-carb, as well as spinach, watercress and beet tops. Broccoli, asparagus, cabbage, avocado, radishes--all of those available, and you pick garbanzo beans and berries?

Think of Paleo as an opportunity to expand your culinary horizons!

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/whattoeat/a/whatveg.htm

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:44 PM

UR right, brother. Boiled is the way to go! Try eating sweet potatoes roasted and you'll see your BG spike. Boil them! Might not be as tasty but it's healthier!

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:39 PM

Hmm good to know! I used to eat a lot of plain baked sweet potatoes months ago, and I DID always feel tired with feelings of a sugar rush now that I think about it. But youre right, I don't know if it's even worth the trouble to eat them if they don't taste good! Can I avoid BG spike if I pan roast them in some coconut oil rather than BAKE them? :/ Boiled just sounds unappealing ahah :P

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:46 AM

Eating potatoes is better for you thank chickpeas? Wow I honestly never would of thought that. I thought potatoes were considered a grain practically! Hmmm okay so maybe have more vegetables and squash, potatoes etc, instead of beans? The thought scares me. I haven't had a potateo in longer than six months... and that was not eassy to give up :/

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Interesting! Another reason I chose chickpeas over things like sweet potatoes though is because I thought the sugar content was lower? For example http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4326/2 and http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2667/2 The beans are still lower carbs and sugars so wouldn't it be better for you? I'm confused again haha.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 27, 2012
at 07:24 AM

Beans are legumes-- technically they can be bothersome to the digestive Tract. Sweet potatoes and yams are the way to go (especially when boiled) as they break down in your body slower and cause less of an insulin spike than beans or white potatoes. Same with squashes. Still you could eat white potatoes a couple times a week if you need to in place of yams.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:17 AM

The glycemic index of Sweet potatoes is much lower than the one in, lets say, Russet, Red, etc.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Hmm good to know! I used to eat a lot of plain baked sweet potatoes months ago, and I DID always feel tired with feelings of a sugar rush. But your not, I don't know if it's even worth the trouble to eat them if they don't taste good! Can I avoid this if I pan roast them in some coconut oil rather than BAKE them? :/

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:15 AM

Hi there- Ive been wondering about the beans thing too as Im about to give Paleo a try (Im a chickpea addict here!)

I'm curious to see what others will have to say- but given your young age, I wouldn't be too strict, especially with the fruits which are healthy and provide essential nutrients.

When I was your age (Im 29 now) I dieted numerous times eating tons of fruits, and I'd still lose. Fruit is healthy, dont eliminate it at your age. On top of that, berries are low kcal, low GI and high fiber- if there's any fruit you do NOT want to stop eating, it's fruits that end with "berry".

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:57 PM

My absolute favorite way to eat them is out of a can(at least their soaked right? easier to digest I've read?) with a little unheated olive oil and salt. It's my favorite thing in the world I don't know why ahah

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:43 AM

I'm a chickpea fan too, my older brother even nicknamed me chickpea haha! and cuidos to you, paleo is awesome!!! and thank you very much, I try to stick to berries :)

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:43 PM

Let me ask you: how do you eat chickpeas? As a sidedish or you mean as in Tahini?

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on July 27, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Amber, you're not alone. I do the same :) It's like how people snack on popcorn, I would snack on chickpeas (but I always rinse canned chickpeas really well before eating them).

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:34 PM

My absolute favorite way to eat them is out of a can(at least their soaked right? easier to digest I've read?) with a little olive oil and salt. It's my favorite thing in the world I don't know why ahah

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:02 PM

I feel much better on 100ish grams of carbs a day compared to 70g or 30 g of carbs a day, too. I usually go between 90 and 150 g. I think you just have to find the right amount for you.

As for chickpeas, if they make you feel better than another carb source, like potatoes, then I wonder if it's the folate that is making you feel better. I think it would be interesting to test out: a couple weeks using potatoes as your main source of carb, and then a couple weeks using chickpeas as your main source of carb.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Though, it could just be the carbs, thing, too.

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:13 PM

Has spinach been really good to you, too? It's also high in folate.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:39 PM

hmm how interesting! Are beans the only high source of folate?

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:49 PM

I'm not alone haha yay! But okay that sounds like a very good idea, I will have to try that!! I've never read up on folate? I'll have to look into it thank you!!

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:44 PM

Wow very interesting point! Maybe I wasn't eating enough vegetables either! so my folate levels were exceptionally low? Cause all I can say is since I've added those garbanzos back I feel FANTASTIC, and maybe a few more veggies combined will be even better!

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:13 PM

While it varies between different ethnic populations, a high percentage of people (10-50%) have at least one bad copy of the MTHFR gene. It encodes a protein that methylates folic acid to make folate. So if you have a mutation in one or both copies of that gene, you may need a little more folate (the methylated, active form of folic acid) in your diet. And that might explain why someone would do well with some beans in their diet. Chris Masterjohn had an interesting blog post about it: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2011/03/anyone-doing-paleo-without-liver-bones.html

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on July 27, 2012
at 08:53 AM

Beans are not bad but potatoes and fruit are better for a number of reasons. They also taste a lot better and are more satiating which will help you with your fat loss efforts. But if you really enjoy beans then eat them, they're not terrible.

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:53 PM

okay thank you so much!!

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:17 PM

Legumes offer nutritional benefits, but what they offer can be found in equal to greater amounts within other foods that have lower carb content -- Like squash, yams, quinoa etc.

Some legumes are ok, like peas and green beans. Some shun peas, but our body processes them like veggies -- that is without insulin spikes -- and they contain very low amounts of phytic acid.

So what about Garbanzo beans?? Well they fall somewhere in between bad legumes (like Pinto and Soy beans) and ok legumes.

So if it's working for you, then stick with it. But there are much better sources of protein, carbs, and nutrients.

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:57 PM

quinoa? I thought that was a grain? and that is so sad to hear about chickpeas :( well I guess for the starch part of each meal, if not already having starchy vegetables, I will try to have squash and stuff more often than chickpeas! that seems to be the verdict! that I can have them as a choice of starch sometimes, but that there are better options!

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:16 PM

many will shun quinoa because of it's high cab load. It shouldn't be eaten every day, but it also shouldn't be avoided completely (especially if you are having trouble getting in enough carbs). Technically quinoa is a pseudocereal, it is not a grass or a grain. But, even more important, quinoa is gluten free, very low phytic acid, very few anti-nutrients, and quinoa is one of the few vegetarian options that provides a complete protein and all nine essential amino acids. It's also chock full of other goodies like Manganese, Iron, Copper, etc. Just eat in moderation

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

quinoa? I thought that was a grain? and that is so sad to hear about chickpeas :( well I guess for the starch part of each meal, if not already having starchy vegetables, I will try to have squash and stuff more often than chickpeas! that seems to be the verdict! that I can have them as a choice of starch sometimes, but that there are pretty options!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Ahhh both of you make a good point, I think I'm better still staying away from any grain, but I will definitely test out the squash and yam recommendations! Thanks!

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:33 PM

You also have to soak out the bitter saponins, which IMO makes it no better than any other whole grain.

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on November 16, 2012
at 01:04 PM

Just wanted to add that eating legumes is considered to be one of the factors in the Blue Zone research, helping to contribute to a long life.

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