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Bad past, Bad teeth, Xylitol?

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Created April 02, 2012 at 1:41 AM

I have severe enamel corrossion on my teeth caused by years of a purging ED, My dentist reccomended using Gum or mints with Xylitol. I am still in my Whole30 and don't know how Paleo this is? Any reccomendations as far as supplements/food for this issue? Is Xylitol Paleo?

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on May 25, 2012
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Fluoride hasn't been "demonized unjustly." It may be useful topically, but when it is ingested, it causes too many problems. Yet another example of why the government shouldn't be involved in healthcare. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fluoride.htm http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/diseases/fluorosis/en/ http://www.relfe.com/07/fluoride_drug_dangers.html

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on April 02, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I didn't realize you beat me to the Ramiel Nagel site. Good stuff and works great for me

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on April 02, 2012
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Vitamin K2 is the way to go for actually remineralizing.

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Here are links to 2 relevant threads: http://paleohacks.com/questions/19088/xylitol-pros-and-cons#axzz1qqMX5Fvx and http://paleohacks.com/questions/100965/your-experience-with-xylitol#axzz1qqMX5Fvx

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on April 02, 2012
at 02:31 AM

Xylitol is just a non-fermentable sweetener, but doesn't really DO anything (other than give you the squirts when you ingest too much of it).

I've been worried about enamel erosion as well, and have stopped using regular toothpaste completely. I haven't been able to pinpoint what it has (or lacks) but it always makes my gums break out in irritation. Whether it's inflamed gums or canker sores, it ALWAYS happens when I use toothpaste.

I've been using a baking soda/water rinse to brush with because it's the only thing that keeps my gums healthy. My oral hygienist says you can brush dry or with just plain water, that toothpaste is not a must. She didn't have anything negative to say about using my rinse (actually she thought it was a logical choice), since it's base-forming and inhibits bacterial growth. By neutralizing the acid in the mouth that occurs after eating (or drinking acidic beverages), it also arrests enamel erosion. Note, it arrests erosion, it doesn't resist it, ie it is not protective it just returns the mouth to its natural state much more quickly thereby reducing the damage done to teeth.

If you're leery about using fluoride products, I'd recommend a product called MI Paste with Recaldent. After brushing (gently!) and flossing, you use your finger to rub a small blob of this paste all over your teeth. Let it sit in your mouth for up to 10 minutes, spit out but do not rinse your mouth out afterward. It's best to use it right before you go to bed. It also comes with fluoride (MI Paste Plus) if you're so inclined.

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on April 02, 2012
at 02:29 AM

I see that Nance posted the other threads that xylitol was discussed in, and check out this website...http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Tooth_Decay/tooth_decay_theory.htm Even if you don't want to purchase the book, the website has a lot of information about foods and supplements that will support your teeth returning to a healthy state.

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on April 02, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I didn't realize you beat me to the Ramiel Nagel site. Good stuff and works great for me

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on April 02, 2012
at 11:27 AM

I think xylitol is good only because it is antibacterial. Ramiel Nagel talks about using cod liver oil and liver for curing cavities and rebuilding teeth. Jimmy Moore has a nice interview with him. Google him

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on November 09, 2012
at 05:22 PM

My family has found a new toothpaste (polish rather) with a Wellness company and get the toothpaste as well as other naturally derived products for whole sale price. I will not go back to what I was using before I was referred to this store. I have read up on the ingredients in the toothpaste and other dental care products they carry. They are FABULOUS! There are two options for the kids- one with fluoride and one w/o. I have the one w/o for my 19 month old and then for the adults they have the same with or w/o fluoride, we have used both and have had no issues, only positives. If you see what I see in this company and their products, your eyes will be opened to a whole new world. Contact me for questions and give you more information on this wellness store, what I call our " blessing store"! Thanks. [email protected]

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Fluoride can cause acid erosion in children which can often make it worse when you get older. 95% of water in Ireland has fluoride far more than any other country in Europe. We have not been drinking fluoride water for hundreds of years so there is very little evidence that it does actually strengthen teeth. I haven't been drinking fluoride water for a year and I've noticed no difference in the strength of my teeth. I have acid erosion and I use aloe vera toothpaste and sarakan mouthwash I find this very effective and don't get any acid erosion any more. Coffee and orange juice are very acidic and will breakdown enamel. I have a natural diet with no sugars and I drink no coffee this has really helped.

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on April 02, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I hate to say it, but flouride doesn't just help prevent cavities/caries, but it also helps to re-enamel teeth. This is because the flouride ion is incredibly reactive, and will help minerals permanently stick to you teeth.

Flouride is not for everyone, I suppose. However, it's often demonized unjustly. If your enamel erosion is really bad and bothering you, try adding one flouride product back into your cleaning regimen -- maybe a flouride rinse? That may help reach the back teeth were the purging probably caused more wear.

I switched back to using flouride some months ago after years using non-flouride products. My teeth are not something I want to lose!

As far xylitol, I'm unsure if the S. mutans (the cause of caries) bacteria likes to eat xylitol. If you can prove that it doesn't use xylitol as a food source, it's probably a safe option for a sweetener (if you really need a sweetener).

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on May 25, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Fluoride hasn't been "demonized unjustly." It may be useful topically, but when it is ingested, it causes too many problems. Yet another example of why the government shouldn't be involved in healthcare. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fluoride.htm http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/diseases/fluorosis/en/ http://www.relfe.com/07/fluoride_drug_dangers.html

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on April 02, 2012
at 11:12 AM

I would go with a Xylitol toothpaste, since you rinse it out. Now makes the one that I use.

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on April 02, 2012
at 02:46 AM

It may not be paleo, but I do eat it. The reason is that it is one of the few sweeteners that doesn't have me in the fetal position within an hour and, heck, it's better than chugging down sugar. Good luck!

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on December 13, 2012
at 12:49 PM

I have completely re-enameled my teeth using the Zellie's system. They were shot due to years of drinking sodas and coffee. It was fascinating to see the line of new enamel being deposited moving down my teeth from the gum line until the teeth were all covered again. And my tooth sensitivity went away. I did not drink fluoride, but rinsed with it 2x more day, and chewed xylitol gum to keep bacteria down. Can't say enough about the results and a little bites of xylitol seems worth it, as tooth health is important for your entire body.

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