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Are there any paleo forums where politics are rarely talked about?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Yes, I know this thread will probably get killed, but hopefully I'll get some pointers before that.

PH has policies about talking about politics, but it seems to come up a lot anyway. I'd like to avoid that if at all possible. It's one of the reasons I stopped hanging out here so often.

I'm hoping to find a nice chatty place to hang out, talk paleo or primal that doesn't suddenly vear off into "you think that because you're a (liberal, conservative, tea-bagger, bomb throwing anarchist, pick one).

No, I don't actually want to start a political discussion of ANY kind. I just want a nice paleo place to hang out and have arguments about eating rice or not where no one gets called a commie/nazi rice eater.

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on March 01, 2013
at 01:24 PM

ok, I usually get hammered for being a quick to close guy -- and even I think it is ridiculous to close this one. Then I noticed that Karen closed her own question? Now I am all sorts of confused.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on March 01, 2013
at 05:50 AM

This forum is one of the best moderated forums out there, believe me. I am yet to see direct insults or derogatory comments. Most people actually CARE.

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on March 01, 2013
at 01:42 AM

arguably lots of things are subtly political anyway, whether you like it or not.

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on February 28, 2013
at 09:42 PM

We were debating about who bears responsibility if one is obese and based upon karen's response i guessed what I thought her political orientation was. My fault guys.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 28, 2013
at 09:05 PM

I suspect I'd enjoy 'social hour for nutrition nerds'

5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

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on February 28, 2013
at 08:34 PM

I just don't think it happens enough to warrant looking for a whole new forum. As far as I've found, PaleoHacks has the highest quality discussion. The other paleo forums seem more like 'social hour for nutrition nerds'

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on February 28, 2013
at 06:10 PM

I want to have a discussion of paleo without accusations of political orientation being tossed. Claiming that someone holds a particular view about a diet issue because of their (perceived) politics shuts down rational discourse.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 28, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Maybe I'm somewhat sensitive to it, but I've seen other threads here where accusing someone of a particular political stance was used to shut down discussion. I think it's a part of the culture here. Forums vary in culture, so I had hoped someone here could point me to one with a somewhat different culture/flavor.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 28, 2013
at 06:05 PM

Immediate example was someone in another post today accusing (in a rather unflattering way) me of being of a particular political orientation because of my views on an issue. I know that I've seen the same views on the issue from people of various political stances in the past, and in fact, my opinion on the issue is not tied to my politics. This has happened in the past, and gotten pretty ugly. Yes, I've walked away from that discussion, but it was one that I was interested in before it turned political. NOTE again, it didn't start that way or would have been easily avoided.

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:57 PM

I see what you're saying, but I still just wonder where all these political comments are that you find. I read this forum every day and I can't even remember the last time I ran into anything political. What's an example? Perhaps I'm thinking of something different than you are when you use that word--"political". As you said, you're looking for a different culture. Without using the word 'politics' or 'political', can you describe the sort of culture you'd like to be in? Perhaps a non-judgmental sort of culture, or something like that? Perhaps 'politics' is code for 'judgmental/negative'?

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:56 PM

I see what you're saying, but I still just wonder where all these political comments are that you find. I read this forum every day and I can't even remember the last time I ran into anything political. What's an example? Perhaps I'm thinking of something different than you are when you use that word--"political". As you said, you're looking for a different culture. Without usinfnthenword 'politics' or 'political', can you describe the sort of culture you'd like to be in? Perhaps a non-judgmental sort of culture, or something like that? Perhaps 'politics' is code for 'judgmental/negative'?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:51 PM

The problem for me isn't the ones that start political - those are easy to avoid. It's the ones that suddenly veer off into that direction. No of course the world isn't perfect (I'd be getting daily deliveries of pastured bacon from adorable naked men.....umm), but I'm looking for ... a somewhat different culture feel I think would be how to describe it. Apolitical.

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5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

on February 28, 2013
at 05:39 PM

I can't figure out what the point of this thread is. Most posts I read on here have nothing to do with politics. Just ignore the ones that mention it, the same way you'd ignore random other topics you don't consider useful for you. For example I ignore anything related to sourcing food in countries I don't live in (such as a question about how to find grass-fed beef in some city in the UK--I don't live in the UK, so it's not relevant to me). I don't see the problem. Just as posts like that are in the minority, posts about politics are as well. Just ignore them like an grownup, rather than complaining about it not being the case that absolutely everything is exactly on topic for you personally.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 28, 2013
at 05:51 PM

The problem for me isn't the ones that start political - those are easy to avoid. It's the ones that suddenly veer off into that direction. No of course the world isn't perfect (I'd be getting daily deliveries of pastured bacon from adorable naked men.....umm), but I'm looking for ... a somewhat different culture feel I think would be how to describe it. Apolitical.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 28, 2013
at 09:05 PM

I suspect I'd enjoy 'social hour for nutrition nerds'

5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

(266)

on February 28, 2013
at 05:56 PM

I see what you're saying, but I still just wonder where all these political comments are that you find. I read this forum every day and I can't even remember the last time I ran into anything political. What's an example? Perhaps I'm thinking of something different than you are when you use that word--"political". As you said, you're looking for a different culture. Without usinfnthenword 'politics' or 'political', can you describe the sort of culture you'd like to be in? Perhaps a non-judgmental sort of culture, or something like that? Perhaps 'politics' is code for 'judgmental/negative'?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 28, 2013
at 06:05 PM

Immediate example was someone in another post today accusing (in a rather unflattering way) me of being of a particular political orientation because of my views on an issue. I know that I've seen the same views on the issue from people of various political stances in the past, and in fact, my opinion on the issue is not tied to my politics. This has happened in the past, and gotten pretty ugly. Yes, I've walked away from that discussion, but it was one that I was interested in before it turned political. NOTE again, it didn't start that way or would have been easily avoided.

5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

(266)

on February 28, 2013
at 05:57 PM

I see what you're saying, but I still just wonder where all these political comments are that you find. I read this forum every day and I can't even remember the last time I ran into anything political. What's an example? Perhaps I'm thinking of something different than you are when you use that word--"political". As you said, you're looking for a different culture. Without using the word 'politics' or 'political', can you describe the sort of culture you'd like to be in? Perhaps a non-judgmental sort of culture, or something like that? Perhaps 'politics' is code for 'judgmental/negative'?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 28, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Maybe I'm somewhat sensitive to it, but I've seen other threads here where accusing someone of a particular political stance was used to shut down discussion. I think it's a part of the culture here. Forums vary in culture, so I had hoped someone here could point me to one with a somewhat different culture/flavor.

5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

(266)

on February 28, 2013
at 08:34 PM

I just don't think it happens enough to warrant looking for a whole new forum. As far as I've found, PaleoHacks has the highest quality discussion. The other paleo forums seem more like 'social hour for nutrition nerds'

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:46 PM

I don't think paleohacks is very political at all.

Of course, the paleo diet suggests the need for freedom from the idiots who give us the food plate. So, if you are a fan of top down solutions, perhaps the problem you are having is inherent in the DIY nature of the paleo diet ethos.

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:53 PM

So you want to have a discussion about paleo without politics being mentioned? Don't mention it then. Change your title from "Are there any paleo forums where politics are rarely talked about?" to "Can I eat rice or not?"

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 28, 2013
at 06:10 PM

I want to have a discussion of paleo without accusations of political orientation being tossed. Claiming that someone holds a particular view about a diet issue because of their (perceived) politics shuts down rational discourse.

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:43 PM

I can't remember the last time there was a thread here about politics, except perhaps government intervention in food prep or something, which arguably is t really political. What's the big deal?

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on February 28, 2013
at 09:09 PM

I've been a follower of this forum for a while, and just joined today. I've yet to see people veering into political debate, aside from bashing the government for its horrible dietary guidelines and attempt to control our food. However, I believe that is not in the spirit of debate, but in the spirit of being paleo.

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on February 28, 2013
at 08:58 PM

In an open forum, people will talk about anything on occasion. You probably want a quality moderated forum. Maybe you should post that question.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on March 01, 2013
at 05:50 AM

This forum is one of the best moderated forums out there, believe me. I am yet to see direct insults or derogatory comments. Most people actually CARE.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 28, 2013
at 05:47 PM

I agree with Uncle Long Hair. Every time anything about politics/religion comes up, the question gets closed right away.

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on February 28, 2013
at 05:32 PM

I wish the world we are living in was this bacon utopia.

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