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Anyone think they can help me get started on the ray peat diet

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 15, 2013 at 4:55 AM

Does anyone know the exact specifications of the diet i'm getting quite confused, I know cliff has helped other users before. Not how much muscle meat to limit quantities of fruit, why baking soda? etc

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on May 18, 2013
at 08:24 PM

Peat wrote a lot about sodium, and even more on CO2. The benefits he writes about might explain the baking soda love!

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on May 15, 2013
at 08:27 PM

seems like erroneous bullshit, i think i'll pick and choose lol

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on May 15, 2013
at 04:40 PM

also ray peat is agains yams/sweet potatoes because of the vitamin a content. he only advocates regular potatoes boiled for 40+ minutes. I could go on for hours with his rules and restrictions. at the end of the day it's not worth it...

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on May 15, 2013
at 04:39 PM

also any cruciferous veggies (goitrogens) are off limits, even when made into a broth. ray only advocates kale broth for the minerals at times. i would not suggest a broth of cruciferous veggies if this is the diet you want to pursue

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on May 15, 2013
at 04:38 PM

your version has some flaws because of ray peats endless restrictions. for example, no berries because of seeds in them, no coconut butter only refined coconut oil. you would need some dairy for his diet as well as caffeine near iron to reduce absorption. the carrot salad is also a big part.

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on May 15, 2013
at 04:36 PM

the ray peat diet is basically endless rules and restrictions. I would not recommend anything like it as far as principles. I would adopt some aspects tho, like higher carbs, more fruit, and maybe some gelatin. as well as the raw carrot salad.

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at 02:16 PM

i'm not going to be drinking gallons of milk, but avoiding pufa's might be something im looking into to increase my metabolism, i mean 3-4 months of the diet aren't going to kill me.

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on May 15, 2013
at 02:15 PM

so something like this? 6 oysters with coconut butter 1 cup of mango, 1 cup of raspberries, 1 cup of blue berries sweetbreads/liver with coconut butter 1 large yam 1 cup of pineapple 11grams of gelatin 3 spoons of honey whole cod fish broth with kale/beets/broccoli/cauliflower/cabbage 4 spoons of honey

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on May 15, 2013
at 05:52 AM

To start avoid all significant sources of PUFA. Eat 80 grams per day of of protein from milk, cheese, eggs, meat, preferably not muscle meats, but organs. Almost all your diet could be from dairy, fruits, eggs, and meat. Coffee and chocolate are encouraged. Have 3 ounces of beef liver once a week. Salt and sugar to taste. Home-squeezed, strained Orange juice is the best form of fruit.

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on May 15, 2013
at 05:46 AM

ray peat also advocates caffeine to drive cellular respiration (i disagree yet again).

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at 05:45 AM

but the basis of ray peat's diet is eating low PUFA, as low as possible (i disagree with this). Next is as much sugar as possible (I disagree with this as well). And lastly eating as much calcium as possible from dairy (i disagree again).

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on May 18, 2013
at 08:22 PM

I think there's quite some confusion when it comes to Peat. The 'rules' are not more than 'ideas' or maybe even 'recommendations'. The basic idea is to eat to raise the metabolic rate. That's not very difficult, given the fact that there's an easy at-home test for that (eg. measuring pulse & temperature). A higher metabolism comes with a lot of benefits, and a higher requirement for nutrients.

Probably the one thing that's important in Peat is experimenting :D By following 'a diet' like paleo, without questioning its foundation, you're unlikely to be very successful.

Restricting PUFA might be the one thing to be serious about, but severe restriction shouldn't even be necessary :O. You eat whatever you want.

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on May 15, 2013
at 05:44 AM

i have tried this diet and i would not recommend it. although i can digest raw milk, it is still neolithic and not good for our digestive tracts. it dampens everything and combining lots of sugar with a damp environment is just asking for candida overgrowth. i would, however, recommend incorporating lots of fresh fruits into your diet, as well as starches like potatoes, popcorn, and rice as these are ray peat approved.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 05:46 AM

ray peat also advocates caffeine to drive cellular respiration (i disagree yet again).

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 04:36 PM

the ray peat diet is basically endless rules and restrictions. I would not recommend anything like it as far as principles. I would adopt some aspects tho, like higher carbs, more fruit, and maybe some gelatin. as well as the raw carrot salad.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 04:39 PM

also any cruciferous veggies (goitrogens) are off limits, even when made into a broth. ray only advocates kale broth for the minerals at times. i would not suggest a broth of cruciferous veggies if this is the diet you want to pursue

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 05:45 AM

but the basis of ray peat's diet is eating low PUFA, as low as possible (i disagree with this). Next is as much sugar as possible (I disagree with this as well). And lastly eating as much calcium as possible from dairy (i disagree again).

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on May 15, 2013
at 02:15 PM

so something like this? 6 oysters with coconut butter 1 cup of mango, 1 cup of raspberries, 1 cup of blue berries sweetbreads/liver with coconut butter 1 large yam 1 cup of pineapple 11grams of gelatin 3 spoons of honey whole cod fish broth with kale/beets/broccoli/cauliflower/cabbage 4 spoons of honey

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on May 15, 2013
at 02:16 PM

i'm not going to be drinking gallons of milk, but avoiding pufa's might be something im looking into to increase my metabolism, i mean 3-4 months of the diet aren't going to kill me.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on May 15, 2013
at 08:27 PM

seems like erroneous bullshit, i think i'll pick and choose lol

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 04:38 PM

your version has some flaws because of ray peats endless restrictions. for example, no berries because of seeds in them, no coconut butter only refined coconut oil. you would need some dairy for his diet as well as caffeine near iron to reduce absorption. the carrot salad is also a big part.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on May 15, 2013
at 04:40 PM

also ray peat is agains yams/sweet potatoes because of the vitamin a content. he only advocates regular potatoes boiled for 40+ minutes. I could go on for hours with his rules and restrictions. at the end of the day it's not worth it...

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