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Antibiotics and paleo

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 18, 2011 at 8:20 PM

I just caught a bronchitis, so I will have to take antibiotics for several days. Since antibiotics often put stress on the liver (besides the gut flora) my doctor recommended that I go on a low fat diet until I finish the treatment, to avoid additional stress on the liver. Would you agree with his advice?

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:04 PM

That's shortsighted and strikes me as reenactment, to which I am fiercely opposed. I just had a minor surgery and I am taking antibiotics to avoid permanent injury (such as an infection that would need to be removed surgically) or death. On the other hand, sepsis is definitely paleo

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:02 PM

"Personally, I would never take antibiotics unless the alternative is death or some permanent effects of an illness or injury." That's dumb and strikes me as reenactment, to which I am fiercely opposed. I just had a minor surgery and I am taking antibiotics to avoid permanent injury or death. On the other hand, sepsis is definitely paleo.

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on January 19, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Personally, I'd research the antibiotics to double check (Tetracyclines are known for being hard on your liver), but I suspect he's leaning toward the gluconeogenesis (uses protein and fats) + antibiotics being a hard combo. If you're solidly in ketosis it may be rougher on you.

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on January 18, 2011
at 11:26 PM

No doubt :) That's how us Paleos roll

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on January 18, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Nicely done, Todd! I try to avoid medication whenever I can.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:42 PM

The primary cause can be either a virus or bacteria.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:22 PM

Maybe add some bone broth.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:01 PM

This sums it up nicely.

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on January 18, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Rule #1: never take dietary nutritional advice from your regular doctor. As of 2008, 70% of U.S. med schools did not require students to take a nutrition course, and 30% only required ONE. If anything, the antibiotics will tax your liver more than your Paleo diet. If you cut the fat, where are you going to get your calories for the next 10 days or so?

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on January 18, 2011
at 08:56 PM

Under that theory, it would sound like the doc is implying your current diet is stressful on the liver already, which I don't think paleo folks are dropping like flies due to liver problems last I checked. I would think it would be more stressful on your body to change up a diet that is working while you are sick. I would support your gut via good probiotics (yogurt, fermented foods, supplements), and then support your illness through Vit D, plenty of rest, and healthy nourishing fresh foods.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:22 PM

Maybe add some bone broth.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:01 PM

This sums it up nicely.

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:35 PM

A couple months ago, Bronchitis was running rmapant through my office building. I believe 10-15 people had it.. I was able to avoid it, until I went to Las Vegas for a bachelor party and drnak enough alcohol to kid a pony (terrible, I know). So upon my return, with my immune system in shambles, I picked that little bastard up. Every sinlge person I spoke with was prescribed "Z-Pak" and it took them 3 weeks to clear it. I made some bone marrow soup and had liver 2 nights in a row, stayed hydrated, and got about 10 hrs sleep. Cleared it in a week with no meds (did use neti pot to clear sinuses, and melatonin to help sleep).

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on January 18, 2011
at 11:26 PM

No doubt :) That's how us Paleos roll

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on January 18, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Nicely done, Todd! I try to avoid medication whenever I can.

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on January 20, 2011
at 05:12 AM

I tend to get bronchitis/upper respiratory infections once per year. I go to a doctor affiliated with a major research university. My spouse is asthmatic, so I'm kind of high-risk.

My doctor does not prescribe me antibiotics for bronchitis. Apparently (I don't have it to hand, sorry), relatively recent studies have shown that antibiotics are not particularly effective for respiratory tract infections, so they reserve them for difficult cases- the "i've had this damn cough for months now" or "i'm near death, help!" sorts of situations. Otherwise- sleep, hydrate, and EAT. Skip the damn antibiotics and keep antibiotic-resistant disease strains from evolving so damn quickly!

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:27 PM

Personally, I would never take antibiotics unless the alternative is death or some permanent effects of an illness or injury. If not taking it results in a few more days of sickness, that's not that bad.

Did he confirm somehow that you have a secondary bacterial infection, because my understanding is that bronchitis is caused by a virus?

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on January 18, 2011
at 09:42 PM

The primary cause can be either a virus or bacteria.

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:04 PM

That's shortsighted and strikes me as reenactment, to which I am fiercely opposed. I just had a minor surgery and I am taking antibiotics to avoid permanent injury (such as an infection that would need to be removed surgically) or death. On the other hand, sepsis is definitely paleo

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:02 PM

"Personally, I would never take antibiotics unless the alternative is death or some permanent effects of an illness or injury." That's dumb and strikes me as reenactment, to which I am fiercely opposed. I just had a minor surgery and I am taking antibiotics to avoid permanent injury or death. On the other hand, sepsis is definitely paleo.

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