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Alcohol never used to be a problem, but lately it seems to be

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Here's an odd one: I've read many comments where alcohol craving is reduced, but none where it's increased. I switched to a low-carb/paleo diet some months ago and have lost about 25-30 lbs and feel much better (with improving blood chemistry too). However my alcohol consumption (red wine) has increased a LOT - typically half a bottle a night now, when I used to average maybe a couple glasses a week. The timing was almost immediately after I changed my diet around.

I suspect this is a 'cheat' mechanism, as a way to consume more sugar, like I used to do with cheese. But why wine? I have zero craving for all my old indulgences such as pasta and pastries and ice cream - but in the evening I'm pouring a glass or three no matter what I promised myself earlier.

It's not a "huge" problem - I'm not falling down or driving drunk, and I don't have weird personality shifts (ok, I do get a little 'happy'). But it definitely impacts my sleep, and what I can accomplish for myself if I'm up late.

Any thoughts, suggestions, different ways to think about this? I feel like a little bit is fine - but for some reason I'm going too far.

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on December 14, 2011
at 05:37 PM

I wish it were that easy to just replace alcohol with pot. Unfortunately pot gives me uncontrollable munchies with no regard to the paleo principles that I'm trying to live by. Plus, Robb Wolf mentioned on a recent podcast that it promotes estrogen overproduction.

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on December 14, 2011
at 05:18 PM

Diet "patriotism" is a fantastic phrase. And a terrible practice. "Hey, let's go start a new diet war..."

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on April 21, 2011
at 04:05 PM

Well I am taking Vitamin D capsules, about 2-3 Grams a day (less than some suggest but more than a typical diet). And lately I've been drinking kefir (though not fortified) so I'm still getting it that way too.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 21, 2011
at 04:01 PM

I've noticed this too - I tend to be OK the next day (more so than 'normal') and the biggest problem is lack of quality sleep, not feeling like crap from a hangover. Hadn't really thought about that detail! As some have also commented, I too seem to be a little more sensitive to the alcohol - but having lost about 12% of my body weight that's not surprising

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on April 20, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Ehhh, you're right Jeff. Not sure how I missed that... but yes, dessert wines are loaded with sucrose. Sangria anyone? Mmmm....

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on April 20, 2011
at 02:25 AM

uh, he said he's craving it more.

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on April 20, 2011
at 01:43 AM

I am pretty sure that there is no significant amount of sucrose in wine, most, if not all sugar, is fermented. Port and dessert wine do have sugar, however.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Not that I drink gluten free beer now, it's terrible and I don't recommend it. Red Bridge has genetically modified corn, impurities. Bard's is decent but the grain it has is related to corn(sorghum). Green's is the best I tried and is almost worth drinking and maybe feeling sick later.. I stick to good tequila and vodka though.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Corona? Haha, I prefered Dos Equis when I used to ingest gluten. I remember having some really goods times drunk on that stuff, gluten free beer doesn't compare to the feeling you get from gluten-laden beer because it lacks the opiate feeling from the gluten exorphins.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:05 PM

can't beat a good Corona

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:03 PM

All the legal and socially acceptable drugs to relax/get stimulated cause hangovers, headaches, addiction and health problems(alcohol, caffeine, tobacco, sugar). I have to remind myself that when I post the almost taboo subject of green herbs.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:58 PM

I never liked pot much, especially in school when everybody I knew smoked. I'd probably like it nowadays (less self-conscious) but I'm so used to disliking it I'd probably never getting around to trying.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:55 PM

Hahaha, I only mentioned it cause it's a safer alternative to use daily than alcohol and sugar IMO. I would rather have a doctor who smoke pot on his own time than one who drinks occasionally and could be hung over on the job!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:54 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggest you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, TEMPORARILY. (or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.) hopefully that would't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:53 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggest you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, TEMPORARILY. (or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.) hopefully that would't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/34008/alcohol-never-used-to-be-a-problem-but-lately-it-seems-to-be#ixzz1K068Qp3e

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:52 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggesting you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, temporarily. 9or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.0 hopefully that won't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:19 PM

meh. i don't have any interest in marijuana anyways.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:15 PM

On the blood tester: it's an amazing tool and I HIGHLY recommend it! It's a quick, easy and accurate way to know how foods impact your body chemistry, and how I discovered that my "sleepies" after having some Chinese rice gluten was really a toxic (almost diabetic) response to blood sugar. You can get them cheap too at Amazon (http://goo.gl/C7fWJ) The test strips are expensive but if you're not diabetic you don't use them as much after the first couple weeks or so. You can reuse the lancets a few times (just don't share).

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:07 PM

I should clarify - I'm the bigger drinker, however she does like to have wine in the house, and my making it into an "issue" would turn it into an even bigger issue - not worth it!

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:56 PM

it is hard to quit something when your spouse/partner isn't along for the ride. "likes the results but critiques the process endlessly" is a sign to me of two things 1- genuine concern for your well being, based on how bombarded she has been with "conventional" thinking, poorly expressed as criticism 2- insecurity about what it means for her, will she need to eventually give up foods she loves, will you become way healthier than her and start making her look bad? etc etc. Maybe you could have a conversation about this.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:55 PM

True, smoking a joint isn't 100% safe but vaporizing is. And even smoking isn't that bad. Paranoia can be avoided by smoking less at a time and by paying attention to the set and setting. Also, getting a more relaxing type of bud will be less anxiety-prone. But getting a sativa type strain which is quite mental/"psychedelic" cause certainly cause irrational paranoia at higher dosage.

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:48 PM

smoking a joint is pretty carcinogenic. make some pot butter and eat it instead.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:45 PM

what about paranoia

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:36 PM

@CaveRat. Don't let her bully you into drinking! I def think you should give it a rest and observe any changes for a few weeks. If she keeps buying it, stop joining her in the consumption. I know it seems crazy to say no to "only one glass" (i had this fight with myself all the time) but one was never only one. Do you think it does anything wacky to your blood sugar?? I'm curious about the tester you spoke of! Don't worry, you aren't an alcoholic, you're going through changes and there are bound to be tweaks and compensations while you adjust!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:28 PM

haha, yes, no one can accuse me of being immoderately moderate either!

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:26 PM

As they say, "it's complicated". My wife isn't remotely supportive of my changes, or rather likes the result but critiques the process endlessly. I won't even suggest keeping wine out of the house (though I think it'd actually work very well) since then I'd "have an alcohol problem" in addition to "it has to be bad for you!" every time I had pat of butter. Sigh. I do think the issues aren't disconnected...

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:16 PM

"PMVLC" - I like it!

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:16 PM

Yes, very similar. I've always been a big caffeine drinker too, though since I stopped brewed coffee and switched to espresso and/or (usually *and*) tea, I feel fine and don't fret about it.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:13 PM

I think I need to do some research on how the sugars are related. For instance I like *dry* wine so it's the Ethanol I'm consuming, I think. How close is that to Fructose, in terms of body response? Let me look into that one...

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Ah - I see a similar post under "Related". I also suspect that it's the wine that's keeping me from dropping more weight. I dropped from 200+ down to ~175 - an now it hovers there. It's not a bad target, but it's odd how it stabilized at that particular point.

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:01 PM

I like the idea of 'preempting' the craving with something similar. I had experimented with flavored (ginger) water, but I'll look at chocolate - even in the evenings it usually doesn't cause insomnia for me. I think for it to work for this particular issue it'll need *some* glucose, but I'd want to be very careful with that...

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:53 PM

btw I sort of backed into Paleo, by way of Taubes' book Good Calories Bad Calories. So I started pretty extreme low-carb about 6 months ago, and have since been 'tweaking' it from a Paleo perspective.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Good suggestions becker - I'll think about this one. I am pretty low-carb after a lifetime of huge amounts of sugars (I had experimented with a blood sugar tester - a tool I *highly* recommend btw since it really showed me how food was impacting my body - and suspect I was 'pre-pre' diabetic).

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:51 PM

mead is made from honey! uhhh, its pretty sweet and would definitely keep you awake if not make you run around the block a few times...

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:49 PM

i personally don't think 2 glasses of red wine is too many, but if it's bothering your sleep, thats a problem. Try drinking a half glass, then have a cup of chamomile tea or some other non caffeinated drink like water (though I prefer something hot), then go back to finish your glass of wine. That should slow you right down.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:45 PM

Haha - I do really appreciate the "happy" part, even if it IS non-Paleo :-). Perhaps that IS what the compensation is - happiness! @DudleyP - I have read that even heavy drinkers tend to live longer (though I do see some rather severe counter-examples by the bar around the corner from me). But I'd like to drink a *little* less - or at least have a little more control - mostly because of how it impacts my sleep. One idea I had: make my own wine - or perhaps mead. I'm sure that'd be more "paleo" too :-)

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:10 PM

Paleo Anonymous!! Woo! That made me laugh!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:03 PM

First of all, it is not permitted to be "happy". A diet should render you glum, hypersensitive and very "patriotic" towards your diet. Second, I agree with you, it sounds like a type of compensation. Maybe you should allow yourself to "cheat" on the diet a couple days a week and see if that helps with the wine-drinking. You know, if you go to AA, you see a lot of sugar. Maybe if there were a Paleo Anonymous meeting (people trying to get over Paleo) the members would drink lots of wine :)

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Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:05 PM

We'd probably need to know more about your diet now, your diet before, and how long you've been adhering to a Paleo-type diet. This would give us a clearer picture of where your metabolism stands at the moment.

Are you doing VLC with a low body fat %? If so, you should increase your carb intake in general to curtail cravings, and this should take care of the physiological cravings for the wine.

Wine contains significant amounts of sucrose whereas beer and liquor contain very little unless added (often HFCS is pumped into liquors). Sucrose is a glucose bound to a fructose. The body will separate the two in the small intestine. Fructose has been shown to be addictive, and it is almost exclusively absorbed by the liver, being that the body metabolizes it as it would a toxin. Addictive and toxic is not the best combo, but they often come hand-in-hand. The fructose itself does not lead to an insulin response, but the glucose that came with it will. If you are consuming almost no carbs except for your wine, perhaps your body (often smarter than yourself) has associated your continued wine intake -- not your discontinued ice cream and pastry intake -- with its only available source of significant glucose, the "better half" of sucrose. Have you had any other particularly sweet or starchy things since you starting consuming more wine?

My tentative suggestion based on the info available is that you should add some insulinogenic carbs earlier in the day like starch, perhaps 75-150 g, and see what happens to the wine cravings. If they don't go away, maybe you just really, really like wine. That, or I'm a bad diagnostician.

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

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on April 20, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Ehhh, you're right Jeff. Not sure how I missed that... but yes, dessert wines are loaded with sucrose. Sangria anyone? Mmmm....

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Good suggestions becker - I'll think about this one. I am pretty low-carb after a lifetime of huge amounts of sugars (I had experimented with a blood sugar tester - a tool I *highly* recommend btw since it really showed me how food was impacting my body - and suspect I was 'pre-pre' diabetic).

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on April 20, 2011
at 01:43 AM

I am pretty sure that there is no significant amount of sucrose in wine, most, if not all sugar, is fermented. Port and dessert wine do have sugar, however.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:53 PM

btw I sort of backed into Paleo, by way of Taubes' book Good Calories Bad Calories. So I started pretty extreme low-carb about 6 months ago, and have since been 'tweaking' it from a Paleo perspective.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:27 PM

I would stop drinking alcohol(sugar) and smoke pot instead.

Reasons why: 1. Can sleep 1 hour after the pot high wears off 2. Not toxic to the body like alcohol/sugar 3. No sugar in it! 4. No crash/hang over 5. No craving(munchies can be negated by consuming glucose/fat before/after getting high)

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:45 PM

what about paranoia

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:03 PM

All the legal and socially acceptable drugs to relax/get stimulated cause hangovers, headaches, addiction and health problems(alcohol, caffeine, tobacco, sugar). I have to remind myself that when I post the almost taboo subject of green herbs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Corona? Haha, I prefered Dos Equis when I used to ingest gluten. I remember having some really goods times drunk on that stuff, gluten free beer doesn't compare to the feeling you get from gluten-laden beer because it lacks the opiate feeling from the gluten exorphins.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:55 PM

Hahaha, I only mentioned it cause it's a safer alternative to use daily than alcohol and sugar IMO. I would rather have a doctor who smoke pot on his own time than one who drinks occasionally and could be hung over on the job!

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:19 PM

meh. i don't have any interest in marijuana anyways.

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(5136)

on April 19, 2011
at 06:48 PM

smoking a joint is pretty carcinogenic. make some pot butter and eat it instead.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:55 PM

True, smoking a joint isn't 100% safe but vaporizing is. And even smoking isn't that bad. Paranoia can be avoided by smoking less at a time and by paying attention to the set and setting. Also, getting a more relaxing type of bud will be less anxiety-prone. But getting a sativa type strain which is quite mental/"psychedelic" cause certainly cause irrational paranoia at higher dosage.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:58 PM

I never liked pot much, especially in school when everybody I knew smoked. I'd probably like it nowadays (less self-conscious) but I'm so used to disliking it I'd probably never getting around to trying.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Not that I drink gluten free beer now, it's terrible and I don't recommend it. Red Bridge has genetically modified corn, impurities. Bard's is decent but the grain it has is related to corn(sorghum). Green's is the best I tried and is almost worth drinking and maybe feeling sick later.. I stick to good tequila and vodka though.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:05 PM

can't beat a good Corona

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

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on December 14, 2011
at 05:37 PM

I wish it were that easy to just replace alcohol with pot. Unfortunately pot gives me uncontrollable munchies with no regard to the paleo principles that I'm trying to live by. Plus, Robb Wolf mentioned on a recent podcast that it promotes estrogen overproduction.

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:14 PM

teetotallers don't live any longer

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559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:45 PM

This happened to me too.

I don't keep wine in the house anymore. it became a real compulsion. I went from a glass or two here-and-there to at least two glasses a night, sometimes up to a bottle. [Health issues aside drinking up to 5 bottles of wine/week gets pretty spendy.] That continued for a couple months. I was still eating some carbs then. I finally cut the wine, (and all grains/most carbs) in january. Perhaps unrelatedly, my coffee intake increased at that time, the same way, proportionally. It doesn't really make sense, but i feel like it's related. I'm trying to cut back on the coffee now. I wonder what will pop up?

I'm now PMVLC. (pretty much very low carb).

it's radical, but, fwiw, in my case, i kind of suspect Candida..(?).. shrug.

Good Luck!

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:16 PM

Yes, very similar. I've always been a big caffeine drinker too, though since I stopped brewed coffee and switched to espresso and/or (usually *and*) tea, I feel fine and don't fret about it.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:16 PM

"PMVLC" - I like it!

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:24 PM

There was another similar post a few hours ago - the gal was breastfeeding... anyway, I don't have the time to check to see if your name is the same...

But! Either way - you mention 'some months' on Paleo - I found that especially when I am exercising, I do want some type of carb - I just ensure that I do it in the best possible manner. Post-workout sweet potatoes or yams (microwaved, then fried in coconut oil) really hit the spot. I found that about 2-3 months into Paleo - I too missed carbs. I think it's your body's way of saying, "Hey, wait a minute - I could handle your strange new eating for the first few months - 'hoping you'd go back to eating a SAD... but, you're still at it. I want my high sugar - high carb goodies!"

You also might try dark chocolate (as close to 80%) or coco nibs (virtually no sugar) with almonds or walnuts. A buzz is a good thing - as a complete non-drinker for many decades - I know that I have to find other things that make me veg a bit and just enjoy life (to counteract my more productive moments). Look at the things that make you happy - that are not alcohol related - and accentuate them in your life.

I tend to agree that any craving for anything carb (whether alcohol, sweets, breads, pastas, etc.) is simply a craving for the glucose that the drink/food ultimately becomes. Also finding a protein or a fat that is particularly satiating BEFORE you get the cravings - might tend to weaken the 'attack.'

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:01 PM

I like the idea of 'preempting' the craving with something similar. I had experimented with flavored (ginger) water, but I'll look at chocolate - even in the evenings it usually doesn't cause insomnia for me. I think for it to work for this particular issue it'll need *some* glucose, but I'd want to be very careful with that...

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on April 19, 2011
at 11:04 PM

I've found I crave alcohol for three days after I consume more than one glass. You might want to test how long the cravings last, which will help you monitor and enjoy your consumption rather than worrying.

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Wine goes to the brain and gives you some happy. It's a way to consume more alcohol, not more sugar. It moderates the big Paleo life change and helps you cope with loss, in this case the foods you have given up. But you say you have no craving for old indulgences, so this may not be your issue. Stress relief and escapism are thought to be two of the major reasons for drinking alcohol. How's your stress level?

It probably doesn't help that some Paleo authors seem to have a soft spot for alcoholic beverages.

Thank you for bringing this up. I would guess this happens more frequently than it would appear from the questions posted here.

If I want to avoid eating or drinking something, I have to keep it out of my home. I tend to be so moderate with moderation that it's totally absent.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:53 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggest you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, TEMPORARILY. (or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.) hopefully that would't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/34008/alcohol-never-used-to-be-a-problem-but-lately-it-seems-to-be#ixzz1K068Qp3e

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:28 PM

haha, yes, no one can accuse me of being immoderately moderate either!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:54 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggest you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, TEMPORARILY. (or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.) hopefully that would't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:07 PM

I should clarify - I'm the bigger drinker, however she does like to have wine in the house, and my making it into an "issue" would turn it into an even bigger issue - not worth it!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:52 PM

yeah i get the not wanting to make an issue out of it. i just suggesting you casually decline and if she asks why, you can say either you aren't in the mood, or it's part of your new diet, temporarily. 9or the the truth - it's affecting your sleep.0 hopefully that won't cause to much turmoil. good luck. i admire your perseverance so far. i couldn't do this if i wasn't single.

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:56 PM

it is hard to quit something when your spouse/partner isn't along for the ride. "likes the results but critiques the process endlessly" is a sign to me of two things 1- genuine concern for your well being, based on how bombarded she has been with "conventional" thinking, poorly expressed as criticism 2- insecurity about what it means for her, will she need to eventually give up foods she loves, will you become way healthier than her and start making her look bad? etc etc. Maybe you could have a conversation about this.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:15 PM

On the blood tester: it's an amazing tool and I HIGHLY recommend it! It's a quick, easy and accurate way to know how foods impact your body chemistry, and how I discovered that my "sleepies" after having some Chinese rice gluten was really a toxic (almost diabetic) response to blood sugar. You can get them cheap too at Amazon (http://goo.gl/C7fWJ) The test strips are expensive but if you're not diabetic you don't use them as much after the first couple weeks or so. You can reuse the lancets a few times (just don't share).

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:36 PM

@CaveRat. Don't let her bully you into drinking! I def think you should give it a rest and observe any changes for a few weeks. If she keeps buying it, stop joining her in the consumption. I know it seems crazy to say no to "only one glass" (i had this fight with myself all the time) but one was never only one. Do you think it does anything wacky to your blood sugar?? I'm curious about the tester you spoke of! Don't worry, you aren't an alcoholic, you're going through changes and there are bound to be tweaks and compensations while you adjust!

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:26 PM

As they say, "it's complicated". My wife isn't remotely supportive of my changes, or rather likes the result but critiques the process endlessly. I won't even suggest keeping wine out of the house (though I think it'd actually work very well) since then I'd "have an alcohol problem" in addition to "it has to be bad for you!" every time I had pat of butter. Sigh. I do think the issues aren't disconnected...

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on December 14, 2011
at 03:54 PM

this is a far fetched answer but it may be possible that you are missing a micro nutrient in your diet and its in the fermented wine. their are thousands of unknown products made by yeast that eat sugar piss alcohol and fart C02. i brew wine myself and i am a microbiologist. that said i would limit it to one glass per day and eat some raw grapes. grapes are natures candy.

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on June 07, 2011
at 03:27 AM

I want to feel a buzz or a drunk feeling. I haven't felt that since summer of 2008. God I miss it.

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on April 20, 2011
at 12:41 AM

since on the paleo diet you no longer consume Milk which is vitamin D enriched so you D consumption would come only from direct exposure to sunlight. There is some research claiming that vitamin D contributes to mood, that lack there of contributes to depression. Depression of course goes hand in hand w/ alcohol consumption.....

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on April 21, 2011
at 04:05 PM

Well I am taking Vitamin D capsules, about 2-3 Grams a day (less than some suggest but more than a typical diet). And lately I've been drinking kefir (though not fortified) so I'm still getting it that way too.

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on April 19, 2011
at 11:40 PM

I'm not endorsing binge drinking, but....

Since going Paleo at the New Year, my liver seems to be incredibly efficient in processing booze. Since I don't drink beer anymore, I polished of 1/2 of a fifth of vodka on Saturday and woke up essentially with no hangover at all. A couple times earlier in the year when I also was drinking straight distilled liquor, I drank like a fish and woke up in the morning just fine.

In my youth and drinking benders, that would have been a 1-2 day hangover. Go figure!!!

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on April 21, 2011
at 04:01 PM

I've noticed this too - I tend to be OK the next day (more so than 'normal') and the biggest problem is lack of quality sleep, not feeling like crap from a hangover. Hadn't really thought about that detail! As some have also commented, I too seem to be a little more sensitive to the alcohol - but having lost about 12% of my body weight that's not surprising

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on April 19, 2011
at 11:10 PM

very common issue I hear from patients daily when they go paleo......they crave booze a lot less. Has to do with down regulation of the dopamine tracts in the median forebrain bundle and due to sensitivty increases in the CART enzyme system in the brain that help limit reward behavior.

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on April 20, 2011
at 02:25 AM

uh, he said he's craving it more.

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