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Adolescent Gynecomastia - Will the Paelo diet help me?

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Created February 27, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Hi, i have been researching the internet for months now trying to find a non-surgical solution to my Adolescent Gynecomastia, i have read on several websites, that the main cause of gyno is high estrogen levels in males. I am 18 years old and had gyno for just under 3 years now, it is not getting worse but not getting better either. I have no tried the paelo diet but i am seriously considering it, so i can get rid of this damn gyno. What do you guys think?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 20, 2011
at 01:32 PM

The indole three carbinol in broccoli is great......and Travis for good measure I will share with you how I upgrade my broccoli. I quick steam it And the water has ginger extract added to the hot H2O and and then steep in in cold water also infused with Ginger. Then I pour lemon juice on it from half a lemon. When done I pour pastured ghee over it and then cover it tumeric......that is how I eat my broccoli. And I eat broccoli and spinach 6 days a week.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 28, 2011
at 12:06 AM

Green Tea blocks the aromatase enzyme.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 08:11 PM

I would also make you stop all ETOH and make you have a full endocrine work up....make sure you dont have a pituitary tumor secreting prolactin as an example......You will get your answer after that. For men this is not a difficult work up as long as your doc is not brain dead and your willing to adapt.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 08:04 PM

I will post this for completion only. Another way to rid yourself of this condition is use topical DHT cream. Problem is you cant buy it in North America because of laws. It can be found in Europe and parts of Central America. Its biggest use is in female to make transgenders and it works very well. Problem is getting access and quality. If it was available I think it would put many plastic surgeons out of this business.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:59 PM

i agree with this as well. But I get all my folks off all grains right away so it is never an issue.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:59 PM

broccoli is not the best aid. Green Tea is off the charts good.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:57 PM

I have no financial ties to this surgeon but I think his pictures and video's speak volumes about what you are looking for. I am here to help if I can

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:56 PM

i cant practice medicine here but hypothetically speaking my bet is you maybe an aromatizer. The easiest way to prove it is get your doc to draw a free and total T with DHT and E2 levels. If you have a high E2 you got your answer. You can knock it down with Arimidex or other drugs......but my favorite way to do it for young guys who are fit is green tea......and lots of it with the caffeine taken out. You can learn to steep your own tea to limit caffeine. For surgery look here. http://www.cosmetic-md.com/gynecomastia/information/sculpting-male-chests-with-surgery/

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Hi, two questions if you don't mind - 1. I train quite vividly in weight training and i have and still do take protein shakes (previously weight gain shakes). My Gynecomastia appeared at the early years of puberty, and i started taking weight gain shakes a couple of years later (around 16 yrs old) could this prevented the condition from reducing? 2. What is the surgical procedure? is it a day job or a week? Thanks

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:15 PM

Gynecomastia does not equal fat.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 06:23 PM

its possible but the saggy skin would still remain. Good job on the weight loss.

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on February 27, 2011
at 05:52 PM

I would say adopt the paleo diet anyway. If you wind up getting surgery like a lot of guys with this condition seem to do, you'll heal better if you're getting good nutrition. You're at a great time in your life to be adopting a healthy habit--you haven't had time to really mess yourself up yet. Wanna look like you are in your thirties when you hit your fifties? It can be done. :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 05:29 PM

your doc is wrong........it does not go away usually. That is true for young men before puberty. If it last up until puberty you got a life long issue until its remedied.

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on February 27, 2011
at 05:28 PM

this is absolute truth........but you can have testicular tumors that cause it and that is the most common cancer associated with male gynecomastia.

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on February 27, 2011
at 05:06 PM

@Aron, you don't give your weight or BF%. If you're not overweight, then I agree with Elizabeth that you need to have hormone levels tested. There are some excellent suggestions regarding gynecomastia on a previous thread ( http://paleohacks.com/questions/1799/middle-aged-male-gynecomastia-aka-moobs#axzz1FB9zNYF4 ), but some young men do require cosmetic surgery to correct the problem.

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:34 PM

Breast cancer is not linked to gynecomastia unless the patient has Klinefelter syndrome.

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:32 PM

He basically did a physical examination, i don't take any medications or have any other illnesses. My mom uses a steroid cream for a skin condition she has but other than that nothing. The only thing is he didn't do any hormone testing.

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Also, if you are 18 and a healthy weight and started puberty at 13 or 14, chances are this isn't going away. If you have a lot of fat, then paleo can certainly help with that, but as for the small lumps of breast tissue... many do disappear, but the ones that linger really are generally addressed with surgery. I know that's not what you want. :/

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:28 PM

Did he do any hormone testing? Are you on any medications? Does your mom use estrogen cream? Did he check for tumors?

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at 04:04 PM

Hi, sorry should of mentioned, i have visited my doctor he told me it would begin to disappear within 2 - 3 years but have not seen signs of this yet.

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:01 PM

I am sorry - that must be a very distressing condition. However, I think you need to check with your doctor. There could be underlying problems, we don't know what kind of medications you are taking, or what others in your house are taking (exposure to someone else's estrogen cream can cause this), and there are medical solutions involving drugs and surgery that may be appropriate depending on how severe the condition is, and what the root cause is. Without medical testing, no one here has enough information to really help you (even if they think they do). Don't listen to "internet doctors" - please see a real one.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 05:29 PM

your doc is wrong........it does not go away usually. That is true for young men before puberty. If it last up until puberty you got a life long issue until its remedied.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

(1591)

on February 27, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Also, if you are 18 and a healthy weight and started puberty at 13 or 14, chances are this isn't going away. If you have a lot of fat, then paleo can certainly help with that, but as for the small lumps of breast tissue... many do disappear, but the ones that linger really are generally addressed with surgery. I know that's not what you want. :/

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:28 PM

Did he do any hormone testing? Are you on any medications? Does your mom use estrogen cream? Did he check for tumors?

30f37b37ece6f35818f00a7711f3dd1a

(15)

on February 27, 2011
at 04:04 PM

Hi, sorry should of mentioned, i have visited my doctor he told me it would begin to disappear within 2 - 3 years but have not seen signs of this yet.

30f37b37ece6f35818f00a7711f3dd1a

(15)

on February 27, 2011
at 04:32 PM

He basically did a physical examination, i don't take any medications or have any other illnesses. My mom uses a steroid cream for a skin condition she has but other than that nothing. The only thing is he didn't do any hormone testing.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 05:27 PM

This is my area of expertise. You need to be checked out by a doctor who knows a lot about hormones. That means an endocrinologist or an MD who is fully trained.

Gynecomastia can be easy or tough to solve, depending on its causes.

  • Food can cause it.

  • We see it in bodybuilders who use to much exogenous Testosterone and they aromatize it to DHT and E2. E2=estradiol and that is what causes the male boob to grow. Some can drive this equation with phytoestrogens if they are natural aromatizers.

  • Then there are pituitary causes or hypothalamic causes which are more serious but usually present to us earlier because of the neurological features found simultaneously.

  • In men you also have to be cognizant of testicular tumors that can be silent and be the major cause. Rare, but it happens enough to be checked.

Do not blow this condition off. It must be evaluated and it can be treated easily surgically. Environmental causes are very very rare even though many give it so much press. Aromatization is the biggie and you can stop that with diet change or aromatase inhibitors. But you need a doc to evaluate this.

30f37b37ece6f35818f00a7711f3dd1a

(15)

on February 27, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Hi, two questions if you don't mind - 1. I train quite vividly in weight training and i have and still do take protein shakes (previously weight gain shakes). My Gynecomastia appeared at the early years of puberty, and i started taking weight gain shakes a couple of years later (around 16 yrs old) could this prevented the condition from reducing? 2. What is the surgical procedure? is it a day job or a week? Thanks

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 07:57 PM

I have no financial ties to this surgeon but I think his pictures and video's speak volumes about what you are looking for. I am here to help if I can

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 08:04 PM

I will post this for completion only. Another way to rid yourself of this condition is use topical DHT cream. Problem is you cant buy it in North America because of laws. It can be found in Europe and parts of Central America. Its biggest use is in female to make transgenders and it works very well. Problem is getting access and quality. If it was available I think it would put many plastic surgeons out of this business.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 07:56 PM

i cant practice medicine here but hypothetically speaking my bet is you maybe an aromatizer. The easiest way to prove it is get your doc to draw a free and total T with DHT and E2 levels. If you have a high E2 you got your answer. You can knock it down with Arimidex or other drugs......but my favorite way to do it for young guys who are fit is green tea......and lots of it with the caffeine taken out. You can learn to steep your own tea to limit caffeine. For surgery look here. http://www.cosmetic-md.com/gynecomastia/information/sculpting-male-chests-with-surgery/

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 08:11 PM

I would also make you stop all ETOH and make you have a full endocrine work up....make sure you dont have a pituitary tumor secreting prolactin as an example......You will get your answer after that. For men this is not a difficult work up as long as your doc is not brain dead and your willing to adapt.

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:29 PM

For what it's worth, Dr. Davis over at Heart Scan Blog has written about the connection between wheat (and other foods that spike insulin) and gynecomastia: http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/10/bosom-buddies.html

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:59 PM

i agree with this as well. But I get all my folks off all grains right away so it is never an issue.

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on February 27, 2011
at 06:14 PM

I also had gynecomastia, which developed in my early teen years. I'd had it with buying baggy shirts and slumping over to try to hide it. I'm in my late forties now and had lipo about a year ago after starting Crossfit and losing what I thought was as much weight as I could lose on my own. I wish I had waited a little longer on the lipo because I've recently gone paleo and have lost all the belly fat that I've harbored for 30 plus years. Losing the last bit of weight makes me wonder if paleo would have had the same effect on my chest. I would certainly recommend going paleo if not for that, do it because it's just healthier for you overall.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:15 PM

Gynecomastia does not equal fat.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 27, 2011
at 06:23 PM

its possible but the saggy skin would still remain. Good job on the weight loss.

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on February 27, 2011
at 03:50 PM

It will be the healthiest decision you can make. However, I cannot say with complete certainty that it will cure you of your condition. I would tend to agree with your logic. Be sure to eliminate ALL bottled and tap water. Loaded with BPA and a 50+ chemical cocktail. I highly recommend Berkey Water Purifiers. From my understanding, it will get better but check with your Dr as to your being susceptible to breast cancer.

0bcefaa82dc94f93ce705f86e235f335

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on February 27, 2011
at 04:34 PM

Breast cancer is not linked to gynecomastia unless the patient has Klinefelter syndrome.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 05:28 PM

this is absolute truth........but you can have testicular tumors that cause it and that is the most common cancer associated with male gynecomastia.

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on February 27, 2011
at 07:09 PM

The only paleo solution would probably be cruciferous vegetables like broccoli. If you're overweight, you'll aromatize a lot more of your test to est as well. Lose fat, eat a few cups of broccoli a day and see how it goes.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on February 28, 2011
at 12:06 AM

Green Tea blocks the aromatase enzyme.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 27, 2011
at 07:59 PM

broccoli is not the best aid. Green Tea is off the charts good.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on March 20, 2011
at 01:32 PM

The indole three carbinol in broccoli is great......and Travis for good measure I will share with you how I upgrade my broccoli. I quick steam it And the water has ginger extract added to the hot H2O and and then steep in in cold water also infused with Ginger. Then I pour lemon juice on it from half a lemon. When done I pour pastured ghee over it and then cover it tumeric......that is how I eat my broccoli. And I eat broccoli and spinach 6 days a week.

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