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Abs made in the kitchen?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 10, 2012 at 3:20 AM

I know they say abs are made in the kitchen, but even that is not helping me!

I have been paleo for seven months. I eat primarily lots of meat, eggs, and leafy greens. I do HIIT and heavy weights, and I my arms and legs have become very nice and muscular, but my abdomen is the only thing that refuses to change.

I just am wondering if anyone knows a factor I am missing. It is the only part of my body I am not seeing results with!

I am 18, female, 23% body fat, 5'5", 125 pounds.

Thanks!

Beaafe23c50e311a8c0ea96728abf398

(418)

on December 12, 2012
at 03:14 AM

You don't agree that men are naturally more muscular? And that it is easier for men to build muscle size? We aren't talking about overweight here. She is already has low body fat. Abs are muscles, you need to BUILD them. And if you are a woman, you have to work even harder. I'm not talking about losing your gut. That is all diet.

3b98fe5dd50ed3172f0669d4c8af6bce

(15)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:25 PM

I am testing for ketosis as well as hitting a 65%fat/35%protein/5%carb ratio. Do you have a different percentage suggestion?

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:11 PM

Are you testing for ketosis or just assuming. Too much protein will inhibit.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:03 PM

Care to explain? You should be required to comment.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on December 10, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Abs are so involved in our day to day life and in most other exercises than ab specific exercise is unlikely to be needed. It may even be somewhat counter productive. Large muscles look great when flexed, but if they happen to be on the stomach, chances are they will look like a belly when not flexed and/or under clothes.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on December 10, 2012
at 06:00 PM

Estrogen? This kind of fat seems to have an affinity.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on December 10, 2012
at 02:13 PM

I agree. http://gettingstronger.org/diet/

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on December 10, 2012
at 02:12 PM

Can you describe your HIIT routine to me?

21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

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on December 10, 2012
at 01:50 PM

That is correct. You might also want to think about whether visible abs are worth it to you. Having body fat that low, and cutting calories to the required level can impact fertility, energy etc for some. Go Kaleo http://gokaleo.com/?p=542 did a nice self-experiment on this. It's worth reading up her conclusions.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:58 AM

You didn't mention Intermittent Fasting or Ketosis. These are the aspects of bulletproof that will propel you over the edge. I guess 'bulletproof' isn't always 'IF' now that I think about it. But, that is what you wanna do. Intermittent Fasting. The high fat coffees make it easy.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

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on December 10, 2012
at 07:10 AM

Hmm. I checked out the website. I just don't see anything significant about it that I don't already do. I do not have access to high quality meats and stuff because I am a college student with a meal plan. I was curious about MCT oil though. Maybe I will get some of that.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on December 10, 2012
at 04:05 AM

I'm not sure I agree. Most men carry excess weight on gut and love handles, while many women carry excess weight on butt and thighs. You don't have to have to big muscles to see abs, just low body fat on your gut.

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E6c14efded576a0bea38a2fe2beced6a

on December 10, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Abs are revealed in the kitchen, but they must first be built in the weight room.

Also, remember it's first on last off. That means if your body started to deposit fat in your abdominal area first, that will be last place the fat will come off when dieting. The fact your arms are showing progress means you are on the right path. Just need to be patient and keep focused.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on December 10, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Abs are so involved in our day to day life and in most other exercises than ab specific exercise is unlikely to be needed. It may even be somewhat counter productive. Large muscles look great when flexed, but if they happen to be on the stomach, chances are they will look like a belly when not flexed and/or under clothes.

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F0e2e6e444c9ab1be9528d168431c735

on December 10, 2012
at 04:28 AM

It could be hormonal. If you look up some old threads related to painful menstrual cramps/no periods/other menstrual irregularities (big red flag for hormonal imbalance), there's some decent information there. You could be deficient in:

  • omega-3's (makes things worse for some people--weird weight distribution, acne)
  • zinc
  • B vitamins (unlikely if you're eating enough meat)
  • D3
  • Magnesium to convert the D3

This one is a bit of a stretch, but I've heard an equal amount of good and bad feedback on the weirder essential fatty acids--omega 7's, 9's, and GLA, found in sea buckthorn and evening primrose oil. Not the first place I'd turn to, but you can certainly pursue this avenue of research.

I've also felt the potent anti-androgenic effect of freshly brewed green tea. This is good if you suspect estrogen dominance (which I probably had).

Oh! Also, I don't like doing dedicated ab exercises, which I feel just make my abs look bulky and blocky. Engaging your core while doing other exercises is usually enough to get some rock hard (but really sleek and contained) muscles for women. My favorite ab workout of choice is pull-ups, actually.

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1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

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on December 10, 2012
at 03:42 AM

Calories, calories, calories. Paleo isn't a magic bullet. The only way you're going to havevisible abs is to achieve a very low bodyfat percentage (around 15% for females, iirc). That low a percentage will only come through a calorie deficit. Calculate your BMR/total daily calorie expenditure, and track your food intake.I had been paleo for about 6 months, and I lost close to 15lb abs increased my definition everywhere (abs included) by cutting my calories.

21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

(1688)

on December 10, 2012
at 01:50 PM

That is correct. You might also want to think about whether visible abs are worth it to you. Having body fat that low, and cutting calories to the required level can impact fertility, energy etc for some. Go Kaleo http://gokaleo.com/?p=542 did a nice self-experiment on this. It's worth reading up her conclusions.

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3b98fe5dd50ed3172f0669d4c8af6bce

on December 10, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Hi! This isn't an answer but I can't find where else to put this response. I have the same problem... My arms and back and calves are showing definition (however I have a hard time with the back of my arms no matter how hard I work them)...but I can't seem to get the weight out of my midsection! I am 27, 5'4, 138lbs and 20% body fat. I've been doing paleo for 7 months and I just did a 21 day sugar detox and now I've been experimenting with ketosis and have been in ketosis for almost 2 weeks now...any thoughts? If I do indeed need a calorie deficit, how many calories should I be taking in?

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:11 PM

Are you testing for ketosis or just assuming. Too much protein will inhibit.

3b98fe5dd50ed3172f0669d4c8af6bce

(15)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:25 PM

I am testing for ketosis as well as hitting a 65%fat/35%protein/5%carb ratio. Do you have a different percentage suggestion?

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Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on December 10, 2012
at 10:57 AM

You could try a low food reward diet. It may be a way to generate a caloric deficit without meticulous counting/tracking:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/06/food-reward-dominant-factor-in-obesity_28.html

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/10/losing-fat-with-simple-food.html

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on December 10, 2012
at 02:13 PM

I agree. http://gettingstronger.org/diet/

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Beaafe23c50e311a8c0ea96728abf398

(418)

on December 10, 2012
at 03:45 AM

It is different for women. Much harder. Women are naturally less muscular. Abs are muscles. Women naturally have smaller muscles. That saying applies more to men. Work your core more, and harder. Not crunches, hanging leg raises and weighted exercises.

Beaafe23c50e311a8c0ea96728abf398

(418)

on December 12, 2012
at 03:14 AM

You don't agree that men are naturally more muscular? And that it is easier for men to build muscle size? We aren't talking about overweight here. She is already has low body fat. Abs are muscles, you need to BUILD them. And if you are a woman, you have to work even harder. I'm not talking about losing your gut. That is all diet.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on December 10, 2012
at 04:05 AM

I'm not sure I agree. Most men carry excess weight on gut and love handles, while many women carry excess weight on butt and thighs. You don't have to have to big muscles to see abs, just low body fat on your gut.

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Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

on December 10, 2012
at 05:36 AM

Go bulletproof.

http://www.bulletproofexec.com/

Do it. You don't have to buy his brand. All the directions are free. It's basically fine tuned Intermittent Fasting. You will burn fat like you can't believe.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:03 PM

Care to explain? You should be required to comment.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on December 10, 2012
at 11:58 AM

You didn't mention Intermittent Fasting or Ketosis. These are the aspects of bulletproof that will propel you over the edge. I guess 'bulletproof' isn't always 'IF' now that I think about it. But, that is what you wanna do. Intermittent Fasting. The high fat coffees make it easy.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on December 10, 2012
at 07:10 AM

Hmm. I checked out the website. I just don't see anything significant about it that I don't already do. I do not have access to high quality meats and stuff because I am a college student with a meal plan. I was curious about MCT oil though. Maybe I will get some of that.

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