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24-Day Challenge (advocare) vs Paleo

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM

So a buddy and I are going head to head in a fitness challenge. He has a personal trainer that is a crossfitter/advocare seller. My point to her was that Advocare was pretty much overpriced BS and that you don't need this stuff to "metabolically restart to help people get leaner, fitter and healthier" as she put it. I argued that when you boil down to it, it's the fact that getting off of your ass, cutting out the stupidity of eating garbage out and working out is the reason these people feel and look better, not because you take a supplement that makes you poop combined with all of that other nonsense.

So I offered a challenge, I will follow a strict paleo diet and come up with a workout plan to compete directly with him. He will be doing that 24-day thing along with some crossfit. His goals are to kick the sugar habit and lose weight. My goal is to show these people that you do not need supplements to achieve the same thing.

We will be taking pictures of the progress at day 1, day 12 and day 24 in blog form. We will also do measurements on those days. Any advice as to what measurements we should do?

What tips can you guys give me to help me not sabotage myself in this? I have been doing a loose paleo diet for a few months. I have already dropped close to 40 pounds with minimal activity thus far, but looking to take the next step in this. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:37 PM

Do you also have some performance tests? Either a "baseline" workout or just some speed and strength tests (timed run, back squat, etc.)?

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on June 26, 2012
at 08:07 PM

Sounds good guys. We have started as of yesterday. Can follow my progress and posts at natecates.blogspot.com . I tend to do VERY little dairy in terms of some cream in my coffee and a super small amount of cheese every couple of days. As for us doing the same workouts it's impossible. He is doing crossfit and has an outlet to do it for free. I am doing a more traditional Mark Sisson type of workout where I will sprint twice a week, lift 3 times a week and walk a lot.

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on June 20, 2012
at 05:18 AM

There's strict paleo, and there's strict paleo. I'd keep off the dairy entirely (except for butter/ghee), and probably the nuts too. Meat and veggies cooked in fat, tubers, fruit (from most to least).

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on June 19, 2012
at 02:22 PM

Ditto what FED said. Limit the number of variables as much as possible to determine if there are differences in the method. Same workouts will help control variation.

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on June 19, 2012
at 02:07 PM

I think it would be most convincing if you followed the same workout plan as your friend. The only difference should be "exercise and diet w/ expensive supplements" vs "exercise and diet without expensive supplements". Measurement-wise, at least track waist, chest, upper arm, and neck circumference. A bodyfat test (either skin-fold done by the same person or Bioelectrical Impedence done under the same conditions) would also be good. To avoid sabotaging yourself, remember that you can do anything for 30 days and no "cheat" will be sweeter than beating your friend and proving him wrong :)

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on August 30, 2012
at 11:14 AM

There are several ways to accelerate fat loss. I'm a big fan of fasted training to go along with Intermittent Fasting (something along the lines of LeanGains approach 16:8) should accelerate your fat loss especially if you're already somewhat fat adapted and could stay ketogenic for the majority of the time. Again, if it's strictly aesthetic fat loss, this approach would most likely lead to large amounts of fat loss. Or . . .

Go the opposite route and do a higher carb intake coupled with intense weight training and some HIIT sessions. However with only 24 days, you would probably see the most noticeable results with the I.F.

-Matt

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on January 21, 2013
at 10:37 PM

Due to the short time frame, I would model it around a Protein Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) + Weekly Lifting & Sprints + Lots of Walking. This would not be sustainable, but for 24 days it's doable.

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on January 07, 2013
at 02:47 PM

Good luck ryo! You know we're all rooting for you.

The best tip I can offer is not to forget that the way you are doing things is actually a sustainable way to reach your goals. Paleo is always already in one's toolbox, so to speak.

I have no idea what types of junk are in the nefarious sounding "advocare". The fact that it is a MLM company tells me about all I need to know.

I don't know if it's in your budget, but I'm sure the forum would enjoy seeing before and after blood work from our two contestants.

Would it be against the forum rules to start a donation jar for something like this?

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on June 21, 2012
at 06:42 AM

omega 3 and beta alanine

Those are two cheap supplements you can take, which you can buy in pure form.

haha...its not advocare

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