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Where do you stop with a Paleo approach?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 02, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Ok, so I assume the majority of people on Paleo hacks have embraced the paleo approach to eating in some way...but how far do you take when it comes to Paleolithic mans lifestyle??.... Picking some random examples, for instance do you sleep on the floor and avoid beds?...Do you go everywhere barefoot?...Do you shun mechanical transport of any kind and go everywhere by foot?...Do you 'train' in the woods by climbing trees and scrambling up rocks.

I think you get my point...Im just interested to see how far people go in the search for true a Paleo life, and where you draw the line?

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 04, 2011
at 02:54 PM

No. If you were a True Paleo, you wouldn't need to wipe your butt at all. Nice try at the humor, but FAIL.

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

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on May 04, 2011
at 02:08 AM

Amen...........

A4f9da7d094aa72508853588682b65f7

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on May 04, 2011
at 12:48 AM

I crap outside too, as do most of my neighbours. The novelty is wearing off. Kit in Christchurch NZ

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on May 04, 2011
at 12:16 AM

There's usually benefits for both parties in a symbiotic relationship. So is it good for the lizards too?

B1fcaceba952861d0324bdb291edbbe0

(3159)

on May 03, 2011
at 02:21 AM

You like mammoth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb0ef6NhY74

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on May 03, 2011
at 01:59 AM

i stop just shy of the loin cloth. JUST shy...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 02, 2011
at 11:04 PM

Julia, I really wish you would elaborated on those "caveman" things you mention above. I find myself curious and titillated.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on May 02, 2011
at 10:50 PM

I also growl when someone wakes me up...lol..

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

You always make me laugh, Thomas!

62f354c72aae8bd8f641ada886d583a2

(265)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:41 PM

Redneck-paleo +1!!!

62f354c72aae8bd8f641ada886d583a2

(265)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:40 PM

I used to be a 95% of the time barefooter but I have not felt safe going barefoot in the last two places we have lived :( I HATE shoes! I love feeling the earth under my feet. Although my husband does not love the "permadirt" on my feet. Anyone else have that issue no matter how much you scrub?

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:16 PM

I agree with you there, Paleo Hacks is annoyingly addictive!

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:14 PM

Sounds promising, let me know when you get it up and running!

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:13 PM

I think they may have preferred a 'fluffier' animal to a scratchy, scaled lizard...rabbit skin toilet paper anyone?...That may even be softer than andrex!

2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

(1049)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:07 PM

We really need a web site for paleo humor.....since true social interaction is void when you are really paleo and can relate to no one. Can't even share your thoughts without offending them. Wow, points for making my very non social paleo hack evening a fun one.

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Could not agree more that it should be used as a framework. I think the 'Modern Paleo' website sums it up best...'A "paleo" approach to health uses the evolutionary history of homo sapiens, plus the best of modern science, as a broad framework for guiding daily choices about diet, fitness, medicine, and supplementation'. I only ask this question as I know some have taken the Paleo lifestyle all to literally....Just wondered what some of you in the Paleohacks community thought. Thanks all!

32123f4f25bdf6a7b70c9c2a719386ed

(396)

on May 02, 2011
at 08:41 PM

I chewed my babies food back in the 70's before there was a Paleo movement. I never told anyone that before...I didn't think they would understand.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 02, 2011
at 08:34 PM

+1 because I growl when someone wakes me up too.

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on May 02, 2011
at 08:07 PM

I stop when something feels like reenactment for reenactment's sake, or rather, I don't go there in the first place.

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Af939911afa817f79a4625d4f503c735

on May 02, 2011
at 08:23 PM

I don't really embrace any of the "lifestyle". I see the nutrition as a "logical framework applied to modern humans, not a historical reenactment.??? - Andrew Badenoch

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95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on May 02, 2011
at 08:38 PM

I draw the line when:

  • I starting laughing at myself.

  • It's argued that everything modern is bad and everything "paleo" is good.

  • When I start to make assumptions about how people may have lived in 45,000 BC.
    We have no idea, really. We can only guess. I like having a refrigerator, microwave, washing machine, blender, food processor, etc. There were no halcyon days in the past. Re-enactment is just plain silly.

There is no one true paleo lifestyle. Trying to capture it under one umbrella is a silly media construction. The word lifestyle needs to be retired for a while. The principles are what you make of them.

I'm more about nutrition, exercise, getting enough sleep, and slowing down my life to live at a more realistic pace, in juxtaposition to the pointless hurriedness all around us.

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Could not agree more that it should be used as a framework. I think the 'Modern Paleo' website sums it up best...'A "paleo" approach to health uses the evolutionary history of homo sapiens, plus the best of modern science, as a broad framework for guiding daily choices about diet, fitness, medicine, and supplementation'. I only ask this question as I know some have taken the Paleo lifestyle all to literally....Just wondered what some of you in the Paleohacks community thought. Thanks all!

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on May 04, 2011
at 02:08 AM

Amen...........

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6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 04, 2011
at 12:21 AM

I go natural when I'm in a natural setting, and I don't when I'm not. It's pretty damn simple. Really.

For example, I usually wear Vibrams when I go out to a trail, but that's only because most of the places I go seem to have a lot of broken glass and trash and other shit. Not littering the floor, but enough to make it impractical to go barefoot without staring at the ground the whole damn time.

Another example: I use the AC in my car when it's hot out. OMG, but AC's aren't paleo! Yeah, and sitting in a glass bubble that traps heat like crazy isn't either. I compensate for one unnatural thing (sitting in a car) with another unnatural thing (turning on the AC). This is the story of my life.

Seriously, it takes everybody so damn long to come to this obvious-as-shit conclusion. I know it took me a long time, and tons of people here seem oblivious to it: If you don't live with a tribe of like-minded people in the middle of nowhere hunting and gathering all you're own food (which I'm sure would be a great life for some people!), sometimes you have to compensate for random modern world shit. Maybe there are artificial lights everywhere and they're making it hard to sleep. Maybe try wearing sunglasses for the last hour before bed? BUT SUNGLASSES AREN'T PALEO! Yeah, and neither are artificial lights.

The bottom line is that how far you should go is simply how far you're prepared to go. If you love living in a big city, you're simply gonna have to compensate in a lot of different ways. The point is to do what's most consistent with your goals. If all you want out of life is to be the greatest chess player ever, you're gonna have to make compromises on the paleo front. Paleo is the best foundation for everything, so long as a part of it doesn't directly contradict what you're trying to do.

In case the point got lost in the length, this is it: If you're thinking about getting rid of something because it's not "paleo", first ask whether it's there to mitigate the damage from something else that's not "paleo". And if you're thinking about including something that's not "paleo", ask whether it's (1) something you're prepared to sacrifice some of your health for, or (2) something that could mitigate some of the damage from something ELSE that you do that's not paleo.

AC in the car (not paleo) is good, but only because it compensates for sitting in a glass box (not paleo either). Getting rid of one would make getting rid of the other easy (or necessary), but perhaps you're attached to it. If getting rid of your car means not being able to make it to your chess tournaments, perhaps you need to make this compromise on the paleo front. I for one don't ever plan to get rid of using a computer, though I'll of course try to mitigate the damage by limiting its use and perhaps not using it at night (which is when it's the most destructive).

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on May 02, 2011
at 09:14 PM

i eat and exercise 90% paleo/primal so as to feel and look healthy. however, I drink beer,smoke cigarettes, and I drive and build V8 gas guzzling hotrods.

what is that, redneck-paleo?

62f354c72aae8bd8f641ada886d583a2

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on May 02, 2011
at 09:41 PM

Redneck-paleo +1!!!

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A4f9da7d094aa72508853588682b65f7

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on May 04, 2011
at 01:03 AM

I think the difference is choice.

For example it might be fun camping on the lakeshore, catching fish, and digging a dunny in a little glade of trees on holiday, but one has the choice to go back to civilization and have a shower whenever one wants. Those with vibram 5 fingers have the resources to buy them, can choose to wear them or their shoes, people who choose to carry water and go without washing their hair can turn the tap and have a shower if they wish. And all these people know that.

When these resources are stripped from you then life takes a whole new meaning. I have discovered 'paleo food' is not as important as 'food', I appreciate water in a way I never had before, clean water from a tap in your kitchen! What kind of a miracle is that?!!! And sewers! Oh heavens, I never never truly appreciated sewers.... And its not just the sewers of course, with out sewers heath issues take on a whole new meaning. And doctors, yes I know many of us have doubts about modern medicine, but my neighbour lay 6 and a half hours with a broken femur waiting for for an available ambulance on the day of the quake. I choose to have doctors and medicine.

I choose water and sewers and roads without holes and doctors with x-ray machines and electricity, and yes, I choose, because I have the luxury of choosing, paleo food to eat because it is good for my health. But if paleo is not available, because of disaster or whatever, I choose to eat.

Kit.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 02, 2011
at 09:00 PM

I crap outdoors and wipe my butt with the first passing lizard. Is that Paleo enough for you?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on May 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

You always make me laugh, Thomas!

2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

(1049)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:07 PM

We really need a web site for paleo humor.....since true social interaction is void when you are really paleo and can relate to no one. Can't even share your thoughts without offending them. Wow, points for making my very non social paleo hack evening a fun one.

A4f9da7d094aa72508853588682b65f7

(268)

on May 04, 2011
at 12:48 AM

I crap outside too, as do most of my neighbours. The novelty is wearing off. Kit in Christchurch NZ

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:13 PM

I think they may have preferred a 'fluffier' animal to a scratchy, scaled lizard...rabbit skin toilet paper anyone?...That may even be softer than andrex!

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 04, 2011
at 02:54 PM

No. If you were a True Paleo, you wouldn't need to wipe your butt at all. Nice try at the humor, but FAIL.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on May 04, 2011
at 12:16 AM

There's usually benefits for both parties in a symbiotic relationship. So is it good for the lizards too?

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Eeb593d6b6d7a939fdd5469b69347d5f

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on May 02, 2011
at 08:25 PM

I sleep in a pitch black room.

I growl if someone wakes me up.

I cut my hair with a rock.

I like mammoth.

B1fcaceba952861d0324bdb291edbbe0

(3159)

on May 03, 2011
at 02:21 AM

You like mammoth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb0ef6NhY74

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 02, 2011
at 08:34 PM

+1 because I growl when someone wakes me up too.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on May 02, 2011
at 10:50 PM

I also growl when someone wakes me up...lol..

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:55 AM

Sleep in a dark room and for as long as possible. Usually nine hours per night. Don't wear really cushiony footwear. Lift heavy things.

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0a46a71bd3dca60276717f099b350132

on May 03, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Here's the thing: I am not actually a cavewoman. I have zero desire to live like one, either. I like living in the 21st century and not having to be afraid of getting killed by sabre-tooth cat or dying in childbirth. I like beds and clothes and cars and makeup and straightening irons and MP3s and the Internet and cable tv. I try to eat as healthy as possible and am working on cutting back on my chemical, TV and Internet consumption, but I'm not going to cut every modern thing I do or consume out immediately because it's gasp not paleo(!!!). If that makes me a bad paleo or not even paleo at all, then so be it. I just want to be healthy, not as some people have described, a re-enactor.

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C4ed6ba382aed2eefc18e7877999a5de

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on May 02, 2011
at 10:35 PM

I try to move around a lot and get a lot of sleep. There are some "caveman" things that feel great regardless of whether paleolithic people did them or not!

...and for the record, climbing trees and scrambling up rocks is incredibly fun and a good workout! :D

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 02, 2011
at 11:04 PM

Julia, I really wish you would elaborated on those "caveman" things you mention above. I find myself curious and titillated.

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on May 02, 2011
at 08:08 PM

My wife got on me this weekend because I was mowing the lawn barefoot....lol. I wear my vibrams everywhere, if you count that barefoot. I also chew my sons (8 months) food before i give it to him.

32123f4f25bdf6a7b70c9c2a719386ed

(396)

on May 02, 2011
at 08:41 PM

I chewed my babies food back in the 70's before there was a Paleo movement. I never told anyone that before...I didn't think they would understand.

62f354c72aae8bd8f641ada886d583a2

(265)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:40 PM

I used to be a 95% of the time barefooter but I have not felt safe going barefoot in the last two places we have lived :( I HATE shoes! I love feeling the earth under my feet. Although my husband does not love the "permadirt" on my feet. Anyone else have that issue no matter how much you scrub?

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on May 03, 2011
at 02:02 AM

im just here to keep my multiple sclerosis in check and lose some weight. not really interested in living like someone 50K years ago. i like my HDTV, and my kitchen. not to mention the flush terlits. i eat good stuff, exercise when i can in a way that feels good and live my life, such as it is.

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on May 02, 2011
at 09:01 PM

I'm working on a megatherium cloning project....

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:14 PM

Sounds promising, let me know when you get it up and running!

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2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

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on May 02, 2011
at 09:14 PM

I DO NOT STOP AT ANYTHING....

Just haven't gotten started yet. Mainly on that exercise program, since I am wasting so much time on Paleo Hacks. My next step should be a 'text reader' that just recites the paleo questions and answers while I work out.

6dcaa5ac2e962798a2e1650335ba0342

(143)

on May 02, 2011
at 09:16 PM

I agree with you there, Paleo Hacks is annoyingly addictive!

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