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Paleo attributes

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 10, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Fortitude and sheer will are obvious attributes our hunter/gatherer ancestors embodied, as surviving was literally about survival. IMO, these attributes have been weaned out of the modern-day "Zoo Human" with todays sanitized, plasticized, manufactured reality. Yes I am aware a lot of it is chemical (fluoride, HFCS, vaccinations, aspartame, etc) as well as indoctrination and media. It would appear that things like IF, complete fasts, higher intensity workouts, training fasted, going barefoot, taking charge of your health, throwing up the middle finger to "conventional wisdom", etc all require a bit more inner strength and resolve than most seem to possess today. Does the Paleo lifestyle require more of these inherent Human qualities or does it bring them out? What have you noticed in yourselves? In others?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 15, 2011
at 04:44 PM

Actions speak louder than words. As do results.

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on June 12, 2011
at 11:59 PM

All change does not always start "within." Sometimes it is very powerfully sparked/stimulated by something outside of us - often, another human.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on June 12, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Oops...type..I meant spreading the "word" in my previous response!

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on June 12, 2011
at 11:57 PM

Meredith, if I could vote up your response with about 1000 points, it would be done. EXCELLENT! Spreading the world requires a humble, compassionate and inquisative openess to others rather than an arrogant "I've got all the answers."

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on June 12, 2011
at 11:54 PM

Polio attacks the nervous system and can cause irreversible paralysis within hours, with young children most vulnerable. There has been a 99 percent drop in the number of infections worldwide since 1988, when the WHO, Rotary International, UNICEF and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention launched an effort to eradicate the virus as was done for smallpox. Polio is now endemic in only 4 countries -- India, Pakistan, Nigeria and Afghanistan -- compared to 125 when the eradication drive began. At the time, polio caused paralysis in nearly 1000 children every day.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 11:32 PM

I'm sure thats not the only thing. Actually, I was never a fan of eugenics. Till now. In fact, I'm sending Bill Gates a check now.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 10, 2011
at 09:38 PM

You are right. This has become quite fashionable.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:52 PM

PS- thanks, though.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:52 PM

The dif Meredith is, I'm from the rez. I now see that for most, this is "fashion". They forage at Whole Foods and if they're really feeling frisky, hunt at Asian markets. This is a forum for the cerebral to feel safe.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 10, 2011
at 07:19 PM

I think your question was a good one. The good ones promote discussion, no? My response was not personal. I hunt too. I think "Paleo" fosters self reliance. PS We're not so different. I've enjoyed salmon with the Samish and I lived on a Navajo reservation for three years.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:13 PM

LOL fluoride kills.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:42 PM

ALL change starts within and every storm announces itself with a single drop.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:35 PM

"The Strong do what they will. The Weak suffer what they must."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:31 PM

Obviously, you understood the question. Thanks Bro, and best of health.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:00 PM

WHAT BBQ's not Paleo?! (Grunt) Fire (Grunt) Meat (Grunt) Outdoors (Grunt) Family and friends. Being too Paleo can be very lonely I guess.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

@Olivia I agree, which is why I tried to cancel out the downvote :)

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

Whoah, wait - what's wrong with a cookout or a BBQ? They generally feature foods I'll gladly eat. Accompanied by things I won't, of course...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Before there are anymore answers, everyone has their own abilities as well as limitations. If this question appears to be an "ego-trip" then I have had my question answered. I have killed grizzlies with a bow n arrow, not to "compensate for a small penis" or to "re-enact" and I didn't have "modern-science at my disposal".... but to feed an Inuit village that graciously let me stay with them for 6 weeks. We ALL have had dif lives and not everyone is like YOU.

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I don't see why this was downvoted, I thought it was an excellent response.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:48 PM

"Self-punishment" or self-betterment? I lead by example. I won't foul my health at a BBQ to make someone who really doesn't care or even want to know, feel comfortable. Thank you Meredith for your honest answer.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Yeah, my first downvote!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:37 PM

Really? Cuz I'm starting to see an emerging trend here. Sort of a divide. Kind of like, "the ones who can't....teach."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:16 PM

There seem to be an awful lot of people over the age of 18, and I don't see MOST of them fitting into your definition of "adult". I have worked with a myriad of people from all walks of life in my career. We all walk a dif path up the same mountain. What one can accomplish easily, may take another a lifetime.

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:44 PM

I abhor exclusivity. The Paleo lifestyle is accessible to anyone. When folks over-use labels like "Paleo" it is just a set up for conflict. (Like going to a cookout and turning your nose up because you "eat Paleo" instead of positively saying "Wow! I love steaks and veggies" and leaving it at that). Doing so sends messages like "I eat better food than you. Your shit stinks, etc." It destroys buy in, (which is only a problem for those of us who would like to see everyone - yes everyone including the average WalMart shopper - live better). More buy in = healthier population = lower healthcare costs = you get to keep more of your hard earned $$$.

The desire to induce self punishment as a badge of being "sooooo Paleo" is a ** Yawn**. (My husband and I like to call this air of machismo "small penis syndrome"). Sure fasting, exercise, etc. all have their place, but we live in times when we can use modern science to best apply these techniques instead of willy-nilly in the name of "Paleo."

Genetically, we are no different that the "average Zoo Human." No better. We've just gotten lucky and stumbled upon this way of life. Don't you think it's our duty to share it with an attitude of openness?

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I don't see why this was downvoted, I thought it was an excellent response.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

@Olivia I agree, which is why I tried to cancel out the downvote :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:48 PM

"Self-punishment" or self-betterment? I lead by example. I won't foul my health at a BBQ to make someone who really doesn't care or even want to know, feel comfortable. Thank you Meredith for your honest answer.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Yeah, my first downvote!

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

Whoah, wait - what's wrong with a cookout or a BBQ? They generally feature foods I'll gladly eat. Accompanied by things I won't, of course...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 06:13 PM

LOL fluoride kills.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 10, 2011
at 05:00 PM

WHAT BBQ's not Paleo?! (Grunt) Fire (Grunt) Meat (Grunt) Outdoors (Grunt) Family and friends. Being too Paleo can be very lonely I guess.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on June 12, 2011
at 11:57 PM

Meredith, if I could vote up your response with about 1000 points, it would be done. EXCELLENT! Spreading the world requires a humble, compassionate and inquisative openess to others rather than an arrogant "I've got all the answers."

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on June 12, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Oops...type..I meant spreading the "word" in my previous response!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 15, 2011
at 04:44 PM

Actions speak louder than words. As do results.

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on June 10, 2011
at 03:56 PM

This quesion seems like an ego trip - I'm an elite and an overcomer because I eat meat and take off my shoes.

I don't consider eating good food, walking bare foot, taking charge of your health as characteristics of fortitude or sheer will. At the very least, everyone should eventually take charge of their own health, finances, food, etc - it's called being an adult.

An example of sheer will and fortitude, in my opinion, would be like a severely abused kid, growing up in foster homes, holding down several jobs while putting him/herself through college. Maybe not that dramatic, but at least accomplishing something or working against the odds to accomplish something.

Eating food and occasionally skipping a meal, and walking thru the park barefoot (without the protection of soap and shampoo) is hardly an accomplishment.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:16 PM

There seem to be an awful lot of people over the age of 18, and I don't see MOST of them fitting into your definition of "adult". I have worked with a myriad of people from all walks of life in my career. We all walk a dif path up the same mountain. What one can accomplish easily, may take another a lifetime.

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:29 PM

Ughhhh the tendency in the paleo community to occasionally get all weird with the eugenics superiority complexes just creeps me out sometimes.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 11:32 PM

I'm sure thats not the only thing. Actually, I was never a fan of eugenics. Till now. In fact, I'm sending Bill Gates a check now.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:32 PM

The Paleo Lifestle is basically more of the same. Instead of the difficult but rewarding task of exercising your freedom as an individual, it is all about imitating a romantic notion of our paleolithic ancestors. The Paleolithic lifestyle is nothing but another escape from freedom, to coin Erich Fromm's term.

I am certain that the Paleo Lifestyle is most dear to the type of males who got their ass kicked on the playground growing up and now want to play tough guys. Mind you, I am criticizing the Paleo Lifestyle here not the Paleo diet.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 04:37 PM

Really? Cuz I'm starting to see an emerging trend here. Sort of a divide. Kind of like, "the ones who can't....teach."

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:36 PM

I am not interested in being martyred.

If I were to do something that I felt took fortitude to overcome suffering, I sure as heck hope that it would be on behalf of something that I consider a lot more important then my personal health or life.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 05:42 PM

ALL change starts within and every storm announces itself with a single drop.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on June 12, 2011
at 11:59 PM

All change does not always start "within." Sometimes it is very powerfully sparked/stimulated by something outside of us - often, another human.

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:42 PM

I feel like the question was not answered. Ya'll just seemed to spit out your E-pinions.

For me eating "Paleo" does require a strength of will. I turn down foods that are delicious, but quite poisonous daily, and at every turn of the supermarket as well. The general ability to maintain a personal account and perspective of life and how my actions affect my own health requires daily will and maintenance as well. Really it isn't anything special, it's just listening to my own currents and seeing, feeling what works for me. Eating this way brings me the highest benefits I have yet experienced in a myriad of eating, living, exercising modalities.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 10, 2011
at 05:35 PM

"The Strong do what they will. The Weak suffer what they must."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 10, 2011
at 05:31 PM

Obviously, you understood the question. Thanks Bro, and best of health.

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