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Why is My kid still chubby?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created August 06, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Hi We are eating 90/10 paleo diet My kid does not eat any candy. Very little dairy products(pastoriced since its illegal with whole milk in Sweden) She practice Martial Art Twice/week 60 min and its high intensity. I know that since I'm her teacher:-) She eats a hight procent of proteins 50-70% in all the meals. But she still has a little tummy. We tried as good as it gets with kids to do the metabolic typing on her and also the tests in Paul Checks book eat move and be healthy. She is very strong, about the size of a 10-11y old kid but only 8y. She jumped a class in school due to that she is very early mentaly and she has only been sick like 10days in here entire life. So can some one tell me help me why she's got that little extra tummy?

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on August 08, 2013
at 04:45 PM

Can you please provide your child's height and weight?

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

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on August 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

--any other diet or lifestyle factors which changed from around a little before then to the present? (e.g. Was the person in question always lean, or was she more "chubby" but has since mostly leaned out? What about training (martial arts or otherwise) changing food intake patterns, or after-training carbs stressing / redirecting the metabolism somehow?)

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

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on August 08, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Hmm, interesting. :-) Will think about all the details and look into them. Pasteurized dairy can definitely cause bloating or various body fat, in many peoples. Rancid oils (such as in commercialized potato chips) might also be problematic. Also, depending on which carbohydrates (during the day), it's also quite possible that the chemical interactions with the body/metabolism are causing excess body fat around the abdominal area. Hmmm. Could you provide more information as to when / for how long the bloatedness/too much body fat around the waist has been like that, and whether there were--

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on August 07, 2013
at 07:56 PM

The scientific answer is that childhood obesity has massively increased over the past few decades and we don't know why.

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on August 07, 2013
at 07:29 PM

I'm thinking Mats means meats with that percentage, not protein. I hope anyway.

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:47 PM

Yes--it did to me as well. From everything I've read, growing children need a higher percentage of carbs.

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:36 PM

Introduce more cardio into your daughter's routine.

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on August 07, 2013
at 01:58 PM

Must be a misprint to say she is eating 50-70% protein. That is very unhealthy.

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on August 07, 2013
at 08:17 AM

Because calories still matter for weight gain/loss just like any diet.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on August 07, 2013
at 12:03 AM

My kid eats Paleo and works out. What's wrong with that?

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

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on August 06, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Would second the calcium with adequate A(retinol)/D/K2 vitamins (from foods/sunlight) & magnesium/zinc, else the calcium will generally not be absorbed by the body or stored properly (Excessive calcium consumption in the absence of K2 can, for example, deposit calcium into soft tissues as the heart rather than hard tissues, such as the bones and teeth. // Older human beings (late pubescent+) often consume adequate calcium but lack the cofactors to properly absorb it. Very important! :-).

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on August 06, 2013
at 03:31 PM

8 year old bodies are not adult bodies.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on August 06, 2013
at 03:12 PM

Nothing like setting your daughter up for a lifetime of self-consciousness about her "little tummy." SHE'S 8!

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

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on August 06, 2013
at 02:25 PM

I would not cut dairy out of most healthy childrens' diets if it's tolerated.

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on August 06, 2013
at 01:58 PM

Exactly how *ripped* do you want your 8 year old daughter to be?!

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

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on August 06, 2013
at 01:57 PM

(Or, at least, worth investigating. :-) )

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

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on August 06, 2013
at 01:56 PM

It is entirely possible that the original poster was posting on behalf of the younger human being, or in earnest, or because of a legitimate concern as to health. The phrase "little tummy" is also unclear as to what, exactly, constitutes "a little tummy", and whether an unhealthy bodyfat % is a worry, or even whether it is simply an important, treasured goal. The young human being could be unhappy with it herself, and wish to change for the positive. Either way, the goal is valid.

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on August 06, 2013
at 01:13 PM

Calm down and let your kid enjoy childhood. You're asking why your 8 year old has a "little tummy". Jeez calm down and focus on the important stuff.

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on August 06, 2013
at 01:57 PM

(Or, at least, worth investigating. :-) )

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on August 06, 2013
at 01:56 PM

It is entirely possible that the original poster was posting on behalf of the younger human being, or in earnest, or because of a legitimate concern as to health. The phrase "little tummy" is also unclear as to what, exactly, constitutes "a little tummy", and whether an unhealthy bodyfat % is a worry, or even whether it is simply an important, treasured goal. The young human being could be unhappy with it herself, and wish to change for the positive. Either way, the goal is valid.

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1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

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on August 06, 2013
at 02:21 PM

This is an 8 year old. We generally do not talk about weight loss unless the child is very overweight. Restricting food because of a "little tummy" and not a serious weight problem can result in stunted growth and nutritional deficiencies. Can you provide more information on weight, height, and a sample of a day's intake? This may provide a clearer picture and basis for better recommendations. I've worked with overweight children in a nutritional healthcare setting and often parents are either overly concerned or wildly unconcerned about weight.

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on August 06, 2013
at 02:22 PM

Your child's mental and physical health are what's important. If she is healthy and happy, I think it's time to relax. The last thing you want is for your child to get the message that there is something wrong with her if she is carrying a few extra pounds. I cannot tell you how many adult women I know who internalized the message that ultimate happiness can only be achieved if you are thin enough. Your little girl will hear that message plenty from society; it's up to you to let her know that it is wrong.

In my experience, older children are frequently a little bit rounder in the years leading up to puberty. The growth spurt at puberty seems to require a little extra fuel.

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on August 08, 2013
at 08:28 AM

HI To give some reply and corrections on what I wrote prior. Off cource I let my kid eat paleo, If its healthy for me its healthy for her. Im not concerned with a little tummy due to the instestents are bigger and her stummach wall cant hold it back, thats NOT what Im taking about. She looks a little bit bloated and has a little bit to much bodyfat araound the waist. Otherwise she is a very healthy happy kid. Runs plays trains and does what all other normal kids are doing. I could not care less about the body fat if it wasnt because she is embarresed about it in school, Since its only her and one other kid that are not skinny on her class. We had a lot of talkes about it when she brings up the matter. Im not htat concerned about a low thyroid issue since all other parts work almost better than normal. Shes never ill, shes almost happy every day, shes very physical, shas about a head taller than kids in her age and jumped a class due to her that she got her moms brain:-)

Sabertooth, We looked into almst all the factors you write about. We took away gluten about 2y ago for the whole family since it just didnt work We are eating different the whole family regrding low carb/high carb, depending of what metabolic type we are, Im an extreme protein person and my wife a high carb tending to go to mixed, and the daughter works best with high protein in the morning and evening but more carbs during the day. We hardly eat procced food more then occationily on resturants. We do have pastoriced dairy, if it could be that. The 90/10 we are taking about is resurants visits and occationally some potatochips ace cream aso

Do any one know where you can do the test for food allergies?

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on August 08, 2013
at 04:42 PM

--any other diet or lifestyle factors which changed from around a little before then to the present? (e.g. Was the person in question always lean, or was she more "chubby" but has since mostly leaned out? What about training (martial arts or otherwise) changing food intake patterns, or after-training carbs stressing / redirecting the metabolism somehow?)

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on August 08, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Hmm, interesting. :-) Will think about all the details and look into them. Pasteurized dairy can definitely cause bloating or various body fat, in many peoples. Rancid oils (such as in commercialized potato chips) might also be problematic. Also, depending on which carbohydrates (during the day), it's also quite possible that the chemical interactions with the body/metabolism are causing excess body fat around the abdominal area. Hmmm. Could you provide more information as to when / for how long the bloatedness/too much body fat around the waist has been like that, and whether there were--

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on August 08, 2013
at 04:45 PM

Can you please provide your child's height and weight?

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24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on August 07, 2013
at 07:33 PM

So, your 8 year old is strong and smart and who knows what else positive. You obsess on a little belly? THAT isn't ANY percent paleo. Go look at the pictures of the Ache here. Notice anything?

http://www.public.asu.edu/~krhill3/Ache.html#Food

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on August 07, 2013
at 01:20 PM

Is it only me that thinks that 50-70 per cent protein sounds way extreme and dangerous? Acc. to both Robb Wolf and Loren Cordain, above 35-40 per cent protein can both cause rabbit starvation and liver problems (http://robbwolf.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Paleo-Solution-Episode-137.pdf). Apart from that, "unused" protein is simply processed same way as carbs are.

My 9 year old and I are also on Paleo but she's eating very normal amounts of protein, carbs and fat.

If this child is training a lot, it might simply be that she needs more carbs as both growing children and athletes do. She should be around 2 g of protein / kg of lean body mass, around 100-120 g of carbs and the rest fat I think.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on August 07, 2013
at 07:29 PM

I'm thinking Mats means meats with that percentage, not protein. I hope anyway.

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on August 07, 2013
at 03:47 PM

Yes--it did to me as well. From everything I've read, growing children need a higher percentage of carbs.

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on August 06, 2013
at 08:14 PM

I think in the UK and US we would not worryu about that. We worry if the child has rolls and rolls of at on it and the rest of the class are laughing at it saying fatty. A little tummy on an 8 year old girl should just be left. My boys kind of stretched out with the growth spurt at puberty without any worry or diet concerned - they grew upwards so everything stretched out.

Perhaps make sure she only drinks water (I am not a fan of milk).

I think most important of all is that you ensure she has no idea at all you are the least interested in her weight and looks at age 8. If you can achieve that even if she is 14 over weight you have done her a big favour.

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1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

on August 06, 2013
at 01:44 PM

Unsure unless the rest of the diet is listed in much greater detail, but factors could be:

  • Childhood diet being bad
  • Early infancy diet being bad
  • Potentially effects from being a growing human being...?
  • Diet
  • Anti-sedentariness in general ( not merely spurts of high intensity then being sedentary most of the rest of the time)
  • Environmental toxins
  • Not hydrating enough (Very important - diet. & health are all affected by hydration being adequate immensely)
  • Too high carb
  • Eating too little
  • Too low carb
  • Not consuming enough fat
  • Not consuming enough greens, or vegetables in general (for personal health - can vary amongst people)
  • Consuming gluten or pasteurized milk
  • Not having been on Paleo long enough to undo previous damage
  • Gut health
  • Happiness
  • Negative (as opposed to positive) stressors
  • Any number of other factors

Without a more in-depth analysis of the diet, it is very difficult to pin down anything particular, if it is diet-related.

(What, exactly, is "90/10" Paleo? Is it low-carb? Is low-carb an acceptable/ fitting approach to live/eat? Is living in general "anti-sedentary" (not just spurts of movement, but consistently avoiding any length of stagnation)? Are there any processed foods at all? (Processed foods are a huge culprit in overall bad health. Even "a little bit" is a lot. How much gluten is in the diet? (Also a big culprit) Are healthy fats (non-rancid, mostly saturated) being consumed adequately? Is enough in general being consumed? How is gut flora health? Do you use ferments?). - Lots of factors... :-)

Also, happiness is indeed another large factor in overall health. Cortisol (and potentially other hormones which vary & fluctuate based on any stresses/joys) affects weight gain/loss also.

Dairy is often a big block with weight loss, though, especially if pasteurized. So, that would be the first thing to look at.

Pasteurized dairy is also often considered to be much more harmful than no dairy at all.

But, unsure about this for certain.

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on August 06, 2013
at 02:25 PM

I would not cut dairy out of most healthy childrens' diets if it's tolerated.

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on August 08, 2013
at 09:44 AM

Your child is only 8 years old and you have worried to think about her little tummy ? This is too bad and don't give any restriction to eat her favorite meal. Yes, you can give healthy food to her but give her favorite meal too that she wants to eat because this is the time to enjoy.

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on August 08, 2013
at 09:43 AM

Your child is only 8 years old and you have worried to think about her little tummy ? This is too bad and don't give any restriction to eat her favorite meal. Yes, you can give healthy food to her but give her favorite meal too that she wants to eat because this is the time to enjoy.

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on August 07, 2013
at 12:54 AM

Kids have a tummy because they don't have enough room for their guts and they hang out. It's normal.

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on August 06, 2013
at 10:01 PM

You make your 8 year old eat Paleo and work out? You're nuts.

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on August 07, 2013
at 12:03 AM

My kid eats Paleo and works out. What's wrong with that?

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on August 06, 2013
at 02:10 PM

this question makes me nervous to even answer. A "little tummy" seems little a very little problem give the lifestyle of you child. Please do not stress over it. I was over weight fr a little bit in 6th-8th grade. When i noticced my mother worried about it i became very stressed. Eventually i just grew more and stretched out.

I lost the weight with no effort but carried around some anxiety for a few extra years. A body in the mist of a healthy life can look many different ways.

I wish my mom had lighted up and supported me a little more inhindsight.

Also kids at that age need gobs of calcium, if it is not coming from milk make sure it is coming from somewhere

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on August 06, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Would second the calcium with adequate A(retinol)/D/K2 vitamins (from foods/sunlight) & magnesium/zinc, else the calcium will generally not be absorbed by the body or stored properly (Excessive calcium consumption in the absence of K2 can, for example, deposit calcium into soft tissues as the heart rather than hard tissues, such as the bones and teeth. // Older human beings (late pubescent+) often consume adequate calcium but lack the cofactors to properly absorb it. Very important! :-).

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on August 06, 2013
at 05:55 PM

the fat kid in my class is now 6 foot 3 and shredded. Pre puberty is nothing. Most fugly kids change drastically post puberty.

Everyone stop hating on dude for giving a fuck abo0ut his kid. Make sure she eats good food and runs her ass off. Nothing worse than a kid who does not know how to do anything competitive physically. means they are at a disadvantage when they grow up and never learned how to master their body ala kelly starett.

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on August 06, 2013
at 03:13 PM

Low thyroid function.

Read Broda Barnes' hypothyroidism book.

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