How has your personal paleo diet evolved and changed over time and more specifically for what reason?
mine went a little like this-
I flirted with atkins (eggs, bacon, salads, meats) years ago without much success as all the high fat never really felt satiating and always had wicked carb cravings ( this is where i developed severe carbophobia)
Fastforward - to high protein-lowish carb zonish i guess) this felt pretty good and my blood work was fine last year when i got tested, but i felt like i was probably consuming too much protein. Im not arnold shwartzeneger! ..hehe.
I was doing probably 150 protein daily < 70 grams carbs and wutver esle was naturally occuring fat/or olive oil.
Brainhiccup I had a whirl with veganism for ethical reasons and mostly due to a big meat recall we had here which kinda threw me for a loop. I ate clean-tonnes of fruits, beans and brown rice, quinoa, fruits etc. I was also hoping to see some majestic outcomes like all the propaganda promises. Glowingeyeballs, zen peace and tranquility, never sweating or having B.O., the ability to levitate lol...etc etc.. all the BS that gets spewed by the pundits.
Needless to say nothing fantastical materialized. I didnt feel particularly crappy or anything (yet) but i noticed by my skin tone that something wasnt quite right. Blemishes wouldnt heal properly and my skin looked kinda dry with a bluish undertone. lol..blech.. So i ate some eggs and i swear my skin was visibly better within 2 days ( no shit!). I regained my space-cadet pink glow :) My mom even asked me if i had makeup on! So me and veganism parted ways.
This january i started PHD/paleo ( ez on the butters and coconut oils though -thnx for headsup Travis :) I figured i would get the benefits of an adequate amount of animal protein without overdoing it (budget wise too!) Im trying my hardest to eats stuff i dont love. Like fish and seafoods and liver which im not particularly a big fan of - but am trying to develop more of a taste for.
So thats where im at right now. With this current diet i feel most balanced and satiated and not really going insane with craving like i did on atkins and zone. The addition of some safe carbs seems to have curbed my appetite i guess. My weight loss has kinda stalled but i dont really care. I know my activity level has changed due to a more sedentary job so this is probably why. I think im at my weight setpoint and I know i have to break that barrier. I hope to do so by ramping up my exercise regime and maybe a few more tweaks. I average 70-80 grams Protein, 100 grams carbs, and balance is mostly naturally occuring fats. I have my cronometer set for 24P/38C/38F- and aim for that.
My main objective is to be the strongest and healthiest me possible. I think that balance and moderation are the keys to life. Nothing in excess is the motto i strive to exemplify now.
So now that youve skimmed the above text-back to the question at hand- whats your story ? How did your paleo diet evolve and change- how did you come to your current paleo-style eating plan.
Thnx in advance for sharing~ peace
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on March 24, 2013
at 03:00 AM
1) Over a period of 15 years I had tried vegetarian, vegan, "Zone", Atkins, and "don't care" diets, with (in retrospect) no success. The fact that I was constantly trying a diet is a testament to the fact that I was unhappy with my size, shape, and general health, despite being in my 20's and 30's.
2) About a year ago (age 42) I discovered the Paleo/Primal thing, and did it "whole hog", dropped all grains and sugars and went very low carb. I felt totally amazing for the first time in 10 years and lost about 10 pounds.
3) 2 months later I hit the low-carb wall, and was not feeling as good but unwilling to let go of my losses in weight and girth. Carefully added back some paleo-friendly carbs and, much to my astonishment, didn't gain back the weight and continued to feel great, realized that the grains and sugars have probably been the problem all along, and I just needed a diet that eliminated them.
4) Graduated from cardio, to high-intensity strength-based exercises at home, to crossfit, and feel and look far more amazing than I have probably ever in my life. I finally have the body I always thought I should have, and it's far easier than I ever thought possible. I started to realize the exercise might be more important than diet for me. Am considering strange and terrible things like competing in fitness events, Tough Mudders, and other things that any sane 40-something should never consider.
5) Have carefully added back Paleo-friendly carbs, have given up grains and sugars, have some cheats that keep me sane (wine, cheese, the occasional booze), and think I might have found the diet that I can stick with for the next 30 years. For the first time thought that I might live past 80. Much to my daughter's relief.
on March 24, 2013
at 02:09 AM
One day I decided to eat healthy and go vegetarian. Then I decided to go healthier and become vegan. I did a work exchange in Hawaii and a guy there said vegan was BS, he knew a lot, took me under his wing and I decided Weston A Price was the way to go. I've gone through different diet combinations of limiting fruit, nuts, grains, dairy and I've gone through phases of eating tons of steak, beef, eggs, dairy. I've tried low carb high fat low protein, high protein high fat low carb and high carb high fat low protein. I've tried phases of raw meat, raw dairy raw eggs. I've tried this with different combinations of a HOST of supplements. Now that I've tried all that bullshit I'm starting to just listen to what my body wants and trust my instincts.
The main things I've learned are:
- Fuck Fructose (hfcs)
- Fuck seeds (grains and seed oils)
I've also learned a ton about exercise, physiology, chemistry and biology, but that might not pertain so much to this question. The main conclusion though is to trust my instincts and enjoy.
I also want to tell a story. People say our instincts do us in, make us eat more and make us fat. I think that's bullshit. I think our instincts make us thrive we just have shitty options. Sure, someone eating French fries in rancid seed oil is going to get fat, but make some French fries in butter or coconut oil, put them next to that same person and let them choose based on taste which one they prefer to eat. Have you ever had fries made in a saturated non-rancid fat? They're 100 times tastier.. I think people should listen to their instincts more and that garbage like HFCS and rancid seed oils should either be banned or get surgeon general warning labels like cigarette packs have.
on March 24, 2013
at 03:43 PM
Let me preface that prior to going paleo I ate a pretty good diet consisting of meat, fish, vegetables, oatmeal, sprouted grain bread, sweet potatoes, nuts, and some fruit. Wasn't afraid of fat. Ate eggs every morning. Ate nuts or avocado almost daily. Always ate whole foods growing up but developed severe anorexia from the ages of 12-15. Real recovery began at 16. Started eating exclusively the foods listed above and recovered from anorexia, going from a low 58lbs to a high of 140lbs in between the ages of 15 and 17. Currently 155lbs.
Then in June of 2009 I picked up Primal Blueprint and started eating a high fat, VLC diet. Became obsessed in a way that reminded me of my childhood anorexia. Feared most foods. Felt like our bodies were weak and the world is this toxic place we can't compete with. Lost about 10lbs of muscle mass and went from about 5% body fat to nearly 8% body fat in 6 months time. Both strength and endurance dropped significantly. Libido dropped, and overall drive dropped.
Said "screw this. I'm doing going down this path again." Returned to pre paleo diet but ommited the sprouted grain bread and replaced those carbs by eating an additional large sweet potato. Returned to normal body composition and mindset in a matter of months. Restored a healthy relationship with food. Continued to improve over the next few of years, but have basically kept most things the same. Experimented with LeanGains. Not entirely sold on it, think a lot of it is hype, but that's just me. Came to conclusion that the physiology of healthy, fit, active people is way different than that of obese or even moderately fat people. I should only take advice from people who are getting the results that I desire. that excludes every paleo guru that I know of.
Now I eat based on what I know works for my body, which are the same foods that allowed me to build a healthy relationship with food when I was 16. Not what's getting the hype or what is the evil food of the day/week/month/year. I just eat what I know makes me feel, look, and perform the way I want. That's meat, fish, nuts, vegetables, eggs, starch, and some fruit. Currently incorporating oatmeal and sprouted grain bread back into my diet. No problems so far. In the end it's all about the big picture. Staying active. Not ever getting fat. Making at least 90% of my diet real, whole, fresh foods. The big ones are food quality, calories, and nutrient timing.
on March 24, 2013
at 02:19 PM
Started more or less in a "healthy" SAD, just overweight. Starting a food log, with a 3500 calorie deficit, but more or less just the same "healthy" SAD, started running as well. Lost 30+ pounds doing this, cool beans (literally, I was eating a lot of beans). Flirted with a high protein, bodybuilder crazy exacting timed diet... it did not have any appeal. At the same time I ended up hearing about paleo, and simply dismissing it as a version of Aktins (which 4 years ago, it largely was!) Upon doing my own research and math, I started cutting a number of things from my diet: bread, pasta, rice, potatoes... replacing with more nutrient dense foods. Essentially was maximizing nutrients per calorie, eventually I realised that this was essentially the paleo approach. Hardcore paleo for about 6 months, saw some additional weight loss, but certainly a little wacky at times. Currently, I'm what you call a 50/50 paleo, or half-assed paleo. I still get 80% of the benefits without 100% of the hassle. :)
on March 24, 2013
at 11:44 AM
My paleo journey doesn't make sense without knowledge of my pre-paleo efforts. I've tried extreme calorie restriction; a sensible shake for breakfast, another for lunch and a sensible dinner. Lean cuisine frozen meals in that case for a total of ~1200 calories/day. Not much for someone above 300+ lbs. and active.
I went all-out on Atkins where I ate pretty much low-GI vegetables, fat, and meat. I took the induction phase down more than a hundred pounds and ate less than most thin women I knew. I had stopped losing weight at some point so extreme calorie/carb restriction seemed the only way. I stopped when I developed a stutter and extreme brain-fog that went away when I quit eating that way.
I've done plenty of "eat in moderation, leave something on your plate" type of diets that were pretty much pure will power to the tune of 50-80 pounds weight-loss over the years.
I've exercised for several hours per day of lifting and running along with eating a "healthy" diet of whole grains, everything else they say you should eat, etc...
I then discovered Paleo/Primal. The simple heuristics offered by those diets were helpful in the beginning but soon my body adapted after the years of different types of diets and I quit losing weight effortlessly and was not satiated no matter how much whole-food, paleo, primal, whatever foods I ate.
I now do IF and eat in PHD ratios, I track my calories religiously with a free calorie tracking app, and I exercise. The weight loss now is very slow but I feel that for the first time I am primarily losing fat and not muscle also. I also don't feel that I am becoming nutritionally deficient in the process, which I think has lead to my long-term lack of compliance in the past.
on March 24, 2013
at 03:30 AM
I have been wheat, dairy, gluten, sugar, soy, nuts, HFCS & trans-fat free for 10 years! 10 years - can you believe it! LOL! I feel and have felt phenomenal for all of these years too - so much so that I would NEVER go back to my old ways!
Oh and I haven't TOUCHED a grain-fed animal in all of these years either!
I transformed my ways all thanks to my intelligent mother! Of course it took her some time to convince me, but when I was 15... BAM! Changed everything! :)
on March 24, 2013
at 03:15 PM
I started out eating as my parents ate (of course!) My mother never really got fast food very often, maybe a few times a year, and she cooked most of our meals. They are Seventh Day Adventists, so all of our food was quasi-kosher (they will combine meat and dairy). A lot of our meals were also vegetarian, or close. Lots of beans, potatoes, pasta, white bread, and cornbread. Some chicken, ground beef, and rice. Very little fish.
When I got out on my own as a young adult, I continued eating mostly the same things, adding in some yogurt and more rice and fish and salads, cutting back on the breads. That was just what I wanted to eat. Still ate the mac and cheese out of a box, still ate the Hamburger Helper.
Later, my tastes began to evolve. I became a foodie. Loved to be in the kitchen, cooking up whatever tasty things I wanted. Much less processed food, but didn't care a bit about macros, sugar intake, and I thought canola oil was just fine. It's heart healthy!
After taking some prescription medications, I got pretty sick and I gained almost 30 pounds IN THREE MONTHS. It was ridiculous. I felt awful, and I thought that eating better would help. So I went healthy-SAD. Made myself eat oatmeal in the morning, whether I was hungry or not (the answer was generally not) because it was good for me. Completely disregarded how awful it made me feel (one packet of instant oatmeal felt like it swelled to the size of a toddler in my tummy, made me very lethargic). Took the doctor's advice and ate lots of crackers and toast and noodle soups to settle my nausea. Got sicker and sicker, even after stopping the prescriptions. They were clearly not side effects. Not sure exactly the mechanism, but something about those prescriptions messed up my gut flora, or digestive enzyme secretion, I dunno, SOMETHING AWFUL. I decided that clearly this "trying to be healthy according to FDA standards diet" wasn't helping. I lost a lot of weight after I stopped the medication, but too fast. I was cold and shaky all the time. I stopped getting my period. I could barely sleep. I was anxious and weak and just in a terrible spot.
I started researching diets. I came across SOLE (Sustainable Organic Local Ethical) and WAPF about the same time. With my budget restrictions, I did what I could. I hate the taste of fermented grains, and it is a lot of bother, and while I like cooking I wasn't really into baking - so I just didn't mess with that. I ate very little bread since it wasn't prepared in the way I thought healthy. I planted my own organic vegetable and fruit garden, went to farmer's markets, learned to can and make jam&jelly, and did that for a while. Major improvement. My weight stabilized at my normal, I got my period back, and even though I was still really weak I finally felt like the worst was over.
WAPF led me to Paleo/Primal. It wasn't much different than what I'd been doing on my fermenting-grains-is-too-much-work WAPF inspired diet. I just started to pay a little more attention to macros and lost the fat-phobia that the SAD is known for. I didn't start adding in a whole bunch of extra fat, but I did start using the amount I had always wanted to use, but didn't, cause I didn't think it was healthy. No more dry baked potatoes, no more fat-free salad dressings, no more non-fat yogurt. I started trying vegetables that I thought I had hated - turns out, I only hate them when they are frozen and plain steamed to mush because I thought butter wasn't healthy.
Adding in more fat really helped (I'm around 50% fat, not particularly high for a Paleo/Primal eater). That was the last missing piece. Now I feel great and life is delicious.
on March 24, 2013
at 12:36 PM
Wow, what a question. Let's see.
1970s-1980s : I was raised by a working single mom on processed, boxed foods. I remember my husband asking when we were dating: "your mom even cooks SPAGHETTI out of a box?"
1990s: After being fat my entire childhood, I became alternately anorexic and bulimic as I finished high school and started college. I got mono and repeated bouts of bronchitis; this depression in my immune system lasted about 10 years. I flirted with the original Zone during this time, and worked out 2.5-3 hours every day. Weight change: 150lb to 105 lb, back up to 150lb within a 10 year period.
2000-2005: Had my first child. Did the Bradley method and had a natural childbirth. I ate a 99% Bradley diet and gained weight like a momma cow. By the time I went into labor I weighed 205lb. Lost 10lb at birth. Weight: 195lb.
In an attempt to lose this weight I converted to vegetarian for 5 years. I lost zero lb. I felt horrid. I was massively depressed. At the end of 5 years I went on a Jenny Craig diet for 2 months and lost back to 150 lb. Did Body for Life for a while as maintenance, and actually built a little muscle.
2005-2010: Had my second child, ate Bradley again, and ballooned up to 210lb. After this birth I discovered Weston Price. I didn't lose any weight, but I felt so much better. Depression gone. I got pregnant again quickly with 2 more babies (Weston Price does awesome things for infertility!). Didn't gain huge amounts of weight this time, but hovered between 190-210 lb. Continued eating Weston Price after the last birth. Still felt pretty good, but I could NOT lose weight. Switched to raw vegan for about 6 months, but couldn't keep up with the food prep with all these children. :)
2010: Read Good Calories Bad Calories, and was very impressed with the information about cancer (both my maternal and paternal grandmothers died of cancer, and I've suffered from bowel problems my whole life). I decided to go cold turkey on zero sugar. After the first 3 days, I was stunned at how good I felt. I did a little more research, and decided to go paleo all the way. I lost 30 lb in 2 months, eating about 3000 cal a day! I couldn't believe it, bc I've been tracking my food for decades, and rarely ate more than 1200-1500 cal a day. And I lost it in all the right places (hips and thighs). Weight: 160lb.
Then that was it. I've continued eating paleo for the last 2.5 years, but no more weight loss. I feel amazing. I started crossfit a year ago, and I've definitely reshaped my body. I love it that I've accomplished more in my 2 hours a week at crossfit than I did in my 3 hours a night working out in college! I'd like to lose a little more. Trying to figure out what the next step should be. PDH? VLC? Relax, eat and play?
on March 24, 2013
at 01:42 PM
As a relatively young man (20), I haven't had a lot of time to experiment with different diets. However, my transition to and from paleo has been interesting, and I think at some point in retrospect will have seemed helpful.
That being said, my first attempt in being pro-active about my diet manifested itself as vegetarianism. Not for ethical reasons, but as a means to be more conscious about what I ate.
Vegetarianism worked really well for me and I continued eating that way for about 9 months starting my second semester of college. I got into good shape (I wasn't overweight to begin with), and took up cycling, which I still continue actively.
However, as a Vegetarian (incidentally), I started to develop some disordered eating habits. Nothing that was entirely specific to Vegetarianism, but rather adopting a belief that gains in fitness/physique could be attributed to eliminating all but a minimum of calories and fat in my diet. As a result, I became underweight, and generally unwell.
ANYWAY, discovering Paleo did two things for me. On one hand, it allowed me to embrace a balanced diet free of fat-phobia, but it was also another way for me to continue my disordered eating (low-carb), and to continue discriminating against specific food/food groups (legumes, grains).
The morale of the story for me, I think, is that not worrying about the sometimes nebulous supremacy of one food over another has been more healthful than worrying about my o3:o6 ratio, IF, etc.
For otherwise healthy people, a 'hardcore paleo' diet (which seems to be moderating itself over that the last few months), or any diet which scares people away from a balanced lifestyle and foods can lead to disordered eating.
Which isn't to say eating 'paleo' was a mistake, or that my experience is applicable to anyone other than myself. Rather my personal evolution with paleo has been to concentrate on whole foods, which I think are self-evidently advantageous to eat, rather than be lead by dogma, which again, I think PH is moving away from.
on March 24, 2013
at 02:58 PM
15 years ago I had bad bloodwork - high TG's and cholesterol - and decided that carbs were the answer. Bloodwork did not improve much, but my diet remained carby. About the same time I heard about the Caveman diet for the first time. I considered it a joke, something my overweight CV challenged brother in law was using as an excuse for steaks and beer. I got more active around 2000, walking instead of driving, lost about 25 lbs and saw my bloodwork improve. Then I went into a 6 year sedentary desk job, gaining all the weight back and more on my high carb overeating diet. In 2007, diagnosed diabetic and now obese, I started carb exchange counting, strictly limiting high glycemic carbs. I lost weight, and to continue losing became more active. It had worked for me before and still worked.
It was at that time that I connected what I was doing as an emulation of Paleo/ancestral hunt and gather and carb reduction. It wasn't so much elimination as conscious restriction and substitution. I see the Med diet as the model, because I believe our ancestors would have eaten anything opportunistically, but it has to be consciously tempered with restraint in face of food superabundance.
Lately I've been thinking and reading about ancient life. What would I do if the lights went out? It's not a state of paranoia so much as a response to seeing how survival works. Meat is not necessarily fat or available. Same with vegetables and fruit. This is not likely to put me into the pemmican business but I'm starting to comprehend the need for dried foods.
on March 24, 2013
at 12:45 PM
I got interested in moving naturally through barefoot running and MovNat. So it became philosophically natural to extend that interest to primal diet. I'm more interested simply in primal food choices than proportions though. I feel like I would have eaten mostly fruit and nuts even if I was living in the Paleolithic. I've loved getting back into meat and lifting though, after being basically a pescatarian runner for many years. I've quit dairy now for 5-6 weeks to see if it impacts my chronic sinusitis but I'm not sure if it is.
on March 24, 2013
at 09:17 AM
Started high fat low carb. Meats, eggs, vegetables, salads, some dairy and berries. Then to moderate carb PHD. Now I'm eating much less fat and meat, I eat about 3 serves of red meat a week. I eat more dried fruit, oatmeal, legumes, sourdough bread, brown rice. Great food sources and I feel better than I have in a long time.
on April 06, 2013
at 09:26 AM
Holy crap it's been 9 years. Alright, it started with Atkins for about a month. Super successful, but my friends and family scared me into going back to carbs. I was worried I'd regain the weight, so I did the whole low-calorie thing (unintentionally. I was probably anorexic at this point, but I denied it). I cut out dairy since I became lactose intolerant for some reason. Went vegetarian for a couple of months. Finally figured out wheat was a problem, too, but had a hard time cutting it out completely. A little over two years after Atkins, found out I had parasites this whole time. Quit vegetarianism.
THEN (and this is when it really starts), one day I was watching Dr. Oz (I know, I know), and Tim Ferriss was on. His methods made sense to me, so I experimented with slow-carb. Did a little more research, and realized low-carb was right all along (couldn't handle the beans). Read up some Gary Taubes, Drs. Eades, and the like. Since I wanted to cut out dairy and wheat anyway, I stumbled upon Paleo. And after some trial and error (traditional Atkins, high-protein, etc.), I found that IF-ing on a high-fat diet has been the best thing that ever happened to me.
on April 06, 2013
at 03:27 AM
I had terrible IBS for years, and went back and forth with gluten free. It made me feel a bit better but it didn't fix the problem. I then went back to eating normally, but got too excited with junk food and I was quite heavy (compared to what I am now) at 70kg. I was 'chubby' and felt tired all the time.
I then went back on gluten free and did a lot of cardio training at the gym - which did help me lose a bit of weight to a point. In total I lost about 10kgs by 'eating healthy', limiting calories and exercise. However, I was still a bit overweight to my liking.
However, my IBS never ceased and I couldn't shift the last 4-5kgs. So I thought if I went off grains completely, surely my IBS couldn't complain! I did lose that lost 4-5 kgs, never looked better, but made my IBS worse.
I've found out I have fructose malabsorption. So for a while I was eating semi-low FODMAP and some grains, but then I got terrible headaches. My weight did dip to its lowest at that point, at 55kg, when I was feeling very ill.
So now I'm back on mostly paleo (I eat some bread, a bit of rice, some gluten-free flours, etc, occasionally) at the same time as a strict low FODMAP diet. I'm hoping that this will be the answer to my problems! I'm sitting at a healthy 56-57 kgs and feeling pretty good. In terms of weight loss, paleo is the tried and true method for me.