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Running + Crossfit + Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 13, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Hi guys and gals,

This may get some flak since paleo and primal goers are quite anti-running, and so have I since starting Stronglifts and paleo. However, I want to run again. The weather is delicious, and I love to run.

Is it possible to include some running in addition to following Crossfit Football without killing myself? This would probably be done on my off-days (Wed,Sun), and last for around 30-ish minutes at a decent pace (I used to sit well under an 8-min mile). And naturally, I would be taking occasional rest days - I know overtraining and am avoiding it like the plague.

Cheers, N

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on April 14, 2010
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P.S. I love your artwork. :)

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Heather, one thing I'd do differently next time (and yes, I do think I'll do it again) is... I'll space my long runs out to two weeks instead of one week. Because training paleo-style means I'm doing less mileage, I need more time for my feet to recover from long runs. Because I didn't get my feet time to recover from each long run, I ended up with sustained impact injuries in my aches. They've since healed up; but it made for a very painful second ten miles and week thereafter. ;)

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at 03:47 AM

Its interesting that you ran a marathon paleo-style. I ran a marathon last year, pre-paleo, and trained for it with tons of running all the time. I knew even before I learned about the evils of chronic cardio that this was a bad was to train (got pretty burnt out at the end)... but I kinda thought marathoning was over once I started paleo. I love the primal exercise style-- its freeing not to feel obligated to kill yourself running everyday. But its good to know that a primal-style marathon is a possibility! I hadn't even thought of that. Thanks!

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at 08:22 PM

http://freetheanimal.com/2010/04/born-to-run.html#comment-17524 Here is the link to Richard's blog and Cynthia Kuni's letter to Richard.

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at 07:35 PM

Thanks Ed. Yeah, I did see that. My question is part that, part can I balance my running in addition to full adherence to Crossfit.

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on April 13, 2010
at 07:14 PM

Nick, there's a great post today on Free the Animal called "Born to Run?" that addresses the paleo/running dichotomy. Cheers,

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on April 13, 2010
at 07:35 PM

I think running can be a part of the exercise regime of a paleo food eater. You just have to recognize what type of running you're doing, the effect it's having on your body, and categorize it accordingly!

I just ran a marathon. My training regimen was rather "primal." I did a few sprint days each week and one long run each week. I recognized that I needed rest in-between each of those day and so I limited my HIITS and STRENGTH training (I don't yet do CrossFit). My long runs were very long and very slow, but they did rip my muscles apart because of their length. My sprints were typical sprints.

But now, as I get back into regular training, I'm going to not run as far, so my long runs are going to be more like hikes - long and slow, but not too long. And my sprints will remain sprints.

If you're going to add a few 30 minute, 3 or 4 milers, then I'd suggest throwing them in on days that you're already doing something. And do them as a warm-up. I don't think they're a good rest day activity. However, if they really don't effect you that much, then you might think of them as "play" - according to the Mark Sisson milieu.

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on April 14, 2010
at 07:18 AM

Heather, one thing I'd do differently next time (and yes, I do think I'll do it again) is... I'll space my long runs out to two weeks instead of one week. Because training paleo-style means I'm doing less mileage, I need more time for my feet to recover from long runs. Because I didn't get my feet time to recover from each long run, I ended up with sustained impact injuries in my aches. They've since healed up; but it made for a very painful second ten miles and week thereafter. ;)

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on April 14, 2010
at 09:57 PM

P.S. I love your artwork. :)

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on April 14, 2010
at 03:47 AM

Its interesting that you ran a marathon paleo-style. I ran a marathon last year, pre-paleo, and trained for it with tons of running all the time. I knew even before I learned about the evils of chronic cardio that this was a bad was to train (got pretty burnt out at the end)... but I kinda thought marathoning was over once I started paleo. I love the primal exercise style-- its freeing not to feel obligated to kill yourself running everyday. But its good to know that a primal-style marathon is a possibility! I hadn't even thought of that. Thanks!

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on April 14, 2010
at 01:11 AM

@NickW

Why not do "runs" that are plain fun? I live near the beach and go down and do random combination of sprints, walks and trots. I have no particular emphasis in mind nor routine. Simply fun and sun.

Looks something like this:

sprint walk trot trot walk walk walk walk trot SPRINT SPRINT walk trot trot walk walk walk sprint walk trot

My goal is to get a bit of vitamin D and cruise around a bit, while keeping cortisol levels low. Is this optimal for pure fitness? NO! Meaning, I will not get into super-duper fit shape doing this. (BTW I also do CrossFit as well.)

Overall, my goal is health, not fitness per se. Where they part ways, I go with health.

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on April 13, 2010
at 08:29 PM

Diana Hsieh has a girl friend, Tammy, that does UltraRuns. The last one she did was after training in a Cross Fit Box for a 8 months.

Here is the blog and video regarding Tammys experience with CrossFit and the race in Utah.

http://www.dianahsieh.com/blog/2010/04/putting-crossfit-to-test-tammys-first.shtml

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on April 13, 2010
at 08:21 PM

I'm no expert by any means but this is my experience so far....I love to run but was unable to for years because of swollen joints and back problems. I started crossfit a year ago and after a couple of months I was able to run again without pain...did a 12K and 2 half marathons last year...starting all over at the age of 46. I'm going to run one of the half marathons in August, just to see how my time has improved, but I decided to back down on running too much, because in excess it seems to work against my strength building..for now I'm just running in class, no extra, in late May I may begin doing a few long runs to build up the miles. Like I said, that's just my experience so far, everyone is different, and I am a little older and don't want to wear my joints out =)!!

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on April 14, 2010
at 03:27 AM

There is a book that explains the Paleo Diet for Athletes. I have used that program when I'm training for ultra marathons, etc.

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on May 28, 2013
at 07:05 AM

Crossfit endurance instead of crossfit football

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