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Reactions to claims about "Greg Glassman, CEO of Crossfit, is now sickly and unhealthy" and other arguments against Paleo?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 19, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Here's the link to an article posted a couple days ago, saying that the CEO of Crossfit, who promoted the Paleo Diet, now has health problems and that Crossfit is being touted against by the US Navy. There are some stabs in there too about how cows weren't around 2 million years ago (they evolved about 8000-10000 years ago from aurochs, putting them--yup--after the advent of agriculture) so we shouldn't be eating beef. And that Loren Cordain only has a degree in.... Physical Education (I checked his curriculum vitae, and it is sadly true) and should be convicted for providing any medical advice if he has done so since he is not an MD. But I still support him because of the overwhelming amount of research he's done.
I know this is another one of those "why-the-Paleo-Diet-is-bad-for-you" type of bullsh*t article that we should just ignore but it's proposed some arguments that I have not yet heard thus far.

Thoughts?

*EDIT:
I don't do Crossfit and have no previous knowledge about Crossfit or this Greg Glassman person.
I will still eat cows for as long as I live.
I still believe the information that comes out of all the big Paleo gurus mouths even if they are not medical doctors.
I think this article is stupid. I'm just putting it out there for arguments against it.

E3474e4efbcc6c1deab28e268ad6eb01

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on August 31, 2012
at 11:24 AM

This looks like an article that Bill O'Reilly would write. Exactly the type of fear mongering, inaccuracies, and half-truths that Fox News loves to spew...

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on April 20, 2012
at 02:53 PM

@MiMintzer, that was my thought too. It's a lot easier to question someone's credentials than to do the work of challenging their arguments/positions. And the reverse seems true as well; that is, it's easier to assert one's own credentials as validating one's argument instead of actually substantiating it.

531b053b68e92ac509fc1544f88dc103

(1205)

on April 19, 2012
at 06:36 PM

I will eat grass-fed beef once a week as a treat, but it's not part of my staple diet. I keep things on the lean side with salmon, chicken, and turkey. All saturated fat makes my cholesterol jump sky-high.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:30 PM

It's a very silly article, indeed.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:42 PM

more entertainment: "They have no need for Vitamin and Mineral supplements sold on the internet or in retail stores,and they have no need to join up with Gym Memberships either. " “If we all abruptly, ate Plant Foods from Nature only on a Global Scale? Would the World Stock Market Crash?”

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:41 PM

He's "plant-based" and sympathetic to raw and vegetarian ." A plant based diet,as organic as much as possible is the diet of many people living more than 100 years of age today in certain places around the world .With documented cases of Longevity. His writing is hard to follow like the Kruse ....LOL bbsuppdeals.com

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:40 PM

He's "plant-based" and sympathetic to raw and vegetarian A plant based diet,as organic as much as possible is the diet of many people living more than 100 years of age today in certain places around the world .With documented cases of Longevity http://bbsuppdeals.com/

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:21 PM

So, yes, they advocate Zone. But also Paleo. CF and Robb Wolf had a fallout, but they never rejected Paleo.

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:20 PM

The Caveman or Paleolithic Model for Nutrition Modern diets are ill suited for our genetic composition. Evolution has not kept pace with advances in agriculture and food processing resulting in a plague of health problems for modern man. Coronary heart disease, diabetes, cancer, osteoporosis, obesity and psychological dysfunction have all been scientifically linked to a diet too high in refined or processed carbohydrate. Search "Google" for Paleolithic nutrition, or diet. The return is extensive, compelling, and fascinating. The Caveman model is perfectly consistent with the CrossFit prescript

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:19 PM

This is from the Crossfit.com section on Nutrition: "What Should I Eat? In plain language, base your diet on garden vegetables, especially greens, lean meats, nuts and seeds, little starch, and no sugar. That's about as simple as we can get. Many have observed that keeping your grocery cart to the perimeter of the grocery store while avoiding the aisles is a great way to protect your health. Food is perishable. The stuff with long shelf life is all suspect. If you follow these simple guidelines you will benefit from nearly all that can be achieved through nutrition."

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Did you catch the immense amount of link-bait Tags? Seriously that duck-faced supplement-saturated bro tagged the column with Denise Mingers name. WTF?

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:14 PM

Good catch. Can't imagine a professional company tolerating a website designed to look that disastrously.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:13 PM

You are probably right.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 19, 2012
at 02:02 PM

FWIW, bbsuppdeals.com and beachbody.com have different registrants doing a WHOIS search, with beachbody.com actually being publically registered by BeachBody. There is a good chance this is a "reseller" or something like that.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:58 PM

I'm mentally double-voting this up.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:47 PM

Ha, see my earlier comment in *this* thread about me thinking it's probably some beachbody coach =D

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:45 PM

To be fair, that's not the beachbody website. If I had to guess I'd say it's some guy who is a beachbody coach, AKA beachbody pyramid scam victim. So In other words, some no-name guy who's trying to make a buck by re-selling beachbody products.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on April 19, 2012
at 09:23 AM

Since when is Crossfit synonymous with Paleo?

3b3a449b6705e9ec8b141d0bd07c1a64

(1489)

on April 19, 2012
at 07:36 AM

Wow that article reeks of authenticity and authority...the slideshow background is what really does it for me lol :P I hope people don't actually believe everything they read....

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(10663)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:55 AM

LOL omg Blossom you're awesome. Hey that rhymed!

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(10663)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:54 AM

Haha, thanks Meeps.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:41 AM

Not sure I understood rant about Cordain not being a medical doctor. All my professors in college were doctors -- they had DOCTORATE degrees! So what if he isn't a medical doctor, he's a specialist in his field!

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:19 AM

The article April summarized and linked to makes the claim that CrossFit has been rejected...she herself is not making the claim that it is actually policy.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:16 AM

*like it was a waste of time

Ee9e7d48c57fe38853a13d6d7cfe65a2

(150)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:14 AM

I also had a poe's law moment with this article. Interwebs, you crack me up.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:14 AM

Well, at least you read the article. I could barely get through the first few paragraphs before I just felt like it a waste of time. I wish I had caught the "over 0 thousand dollars" line. Hilarious!! I agree, the way something is communicated makes a world of difference for me.

C79a5b43dfc5749200bd9dcaa6bb0858

on April 19, 2012
at 03:48 AM

These comments are funny. I've given you 3 upvotes now April. :-)

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:47 AM

I now have a reason to never ever pay for a BeachBody product ever. What a load of unintelligent crap that article was.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:42 AM

But..in a question you asked, you said you ate grass-fed beef? Not trying to stir anything up, but I'm just wondering if you think grass-fed is more "wild" or something.

Ab0369a70755bd07f44292b4ca8b2260

(1579)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:39 AM

In many many many instances, "The cobbler's children wear no shoes." Is an unfit looking foot ball coach able to coach a team to a championship? You bet…How about an unfit Doctor able to give medical advice? It's clearly a biased article with very little basis in truth. There are hundreds of thousands if not more people doing CF on a regular basis and the writer can only find one instance of CF being sued. Pretty silly.

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:37 AM

Vague comments really thrill me.

9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

(1677)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:36 AM

Theres nothing in that 2008 article that says anything regarding Navy PT policy. In fact the Navy and Marine Corps just officially approved Vibram Five finger shoes being worn for PT.

9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

(1677)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:31 AM

You are busted.

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:15 AM

She said the article said that, not that she personally is saying it.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Eating fruit and some seeds all day is also "paleo" because it's real, whole food. But it doesn't mean that if someone who gets sick on a 90% fruit diet means that the "paleo" diet, as a whole, is a mistake.

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:10 AM

Oh Cory, Cory, Cory... I don't do Crossfit, much less any Navy workouts. When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME. In this case, especially U.

9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

(1677)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Do you really base what exercise your contemplating on what the Navy does??!! The same organization that has as a pass/fail PT test event to see if you can sit and touch your toes. You just earned a down vote from me.

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24574b0154bb80c5d04ca3699009298a

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:00 AM

I'm sure his health problems have nothing to do with alcoholism. Gotta be his diet. Also, the official Crossfit diet is Zone, not Paleo. Just ask Robb Wolf.

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E8f706731b4b262d478759a8a8b47698

(110)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:00 AM

Since when is Glassman an advocate of paleo? Crossfit HQ is Zone Diet all the way unless I missed a big change in their thinking. Many if not most of the Crossfit athletes are paleo but HQ is in bed with Barry Sears and has been for a long time.

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:21 PM

So, yes, they advocate Zone. But also Paleo. CF and Robb Wolf had a fallout, but they never rejected Paleo.

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:19 PM

This is from the Crossfit.com section on Nutrition: "What Should I Eat? In plain language, base your diet on garden vegetables, especially greens, lean meats, nuts and seeds, little starch, and no sugar. That's about as simple as we can get. Many have observed that keeping your grocery cart to the perimeter of the grocery store while avoiding the aisles is a great way to protect your health. Food is perishable. The stuff with long shelf life is all suspect. If you follow these simple guidelines you will benefit from nearly all that can be achieved through nutrition."

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

(2349)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:20 PM

The Caveman or Paleolithic Model for Nutrition Modern diets are ill suited for our genetic composition. Evolution has not kept pace with advances in agriculture and food processing resulting in a plague of health problems for modern man. Coronary heart disease, diabetes, cancer, osteoporosis, obesity and psychological dysfunction have all been scientifically linked to a diet too high in refined or processed carbohydrate. Search "Google" for Paleolithic nutrition, or diet. The return is extensive, compelling, and fascinating. The Caveman model is perfectly consistent with the CrossFit prescript

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D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:15 AM

If Greg Glassman were Paleo it would be worth discussing. Since he isn't, and has publicly disavowed Paleo, defending Paleo over some non-Paleo's poor health is rather outrageous.

EDIT: And now after reading the article, I'm even more put off. First, it is on the Beach Body website. Heard of them? They compete with crossfit with P90x and other programs. Trying to slag on a competitor in this fashion is rather lame marketing. Wow did they get it wrong about coach Glassman's diet. There must be some strong hate. Between Beach Body and Crossfit HQ. Wonder what Rob Wolf would say about this?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:13 PM

You are probably right.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:45 PM

To be fair, that's not the beachbody website. If I had to guess I'd say it's some guy who is a beachbody coach, AKA beachbody pyramid scam victim. So In other words, some no-name guy who's trying to make a buck by re-selling beachbody products.

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:14 PM

Good catch. Can't imagine a professional company tolerating a website designed to look that disastrously.

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Did you catch the immense amount of link-bait Tags? Seriously that duck-faced supplement-saturated bro tagged the column with Denise Mingers name. WTF?

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870fdea50f2a9f1cd2890c8e22549300

(2056)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:32 PM

I suppose this answer would be more disciplined (and carry more weight) had I been able to force myself to do a critical reading of the entire article. But the first two links that I checked did not say what the author claimed.

Neither Glassman nor Crossfit was named as a defendant in the lawsuit filed by Makimba Mimms--only the gym and the trainers. Because Glassman and Crossfit were not in fact sued, there could not be judgments against them--so in a weird way saying there was a 0 thousand dollar judgment was accurate. Crossfit can't be "found guilty as charged" (which is a criminal concept, not a civil one anyway, although a corporation can in fact be convicted of a crime in certain situations, but I digress) if it is not a party to the lawsuit!

In light of such an initial glaring inaccuracy I didn't have the patience to evaluate the remainder of the article, which appeared to contain a number of ad hominem arguments.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:58 PM

I'm mentally double-voting this up.

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Ee9e7d48c57fe38853a13d6d7cfe65a2

on April 19, 2012
at 04:03 AM

you could scare a lot of crows with all the strawmen in that article.

That was such an eloquently written article, all the question marks and multiple uses of the word 'debunked' in a sentence really drove the point home. I am starting to question my slavish devotion to eating food that only existed in its exact form pre-agriculture, and drinking from poop filled puddles. I don't do crossfit, but apparently I'm lucky to have escaped the ravages of bulimia and herpes endemic in the community.

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F2cd77a6d2133ca3ae5b4353c4047577

on April 19, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Kevin Bacon (dressed in ROTC uniform, as it were): "All is well!!!!!!!"

Just because you do CrossFit doesn't make you Paleo, despite the fact that they have traditionally gone hand-in-hand. That being said, I may be a stickler for clear causation when approaching something like this, but I'm much more inclined to believe biochemistry than I am a picture of a dude who may or may not be even close to Paleo. Just because he makes his living as the head of cross-fit doesn't mean he is the pillar of its ideals.

As for the marine who sued the Marine Corps because he was "injured" by CrossFit workouts, I'm inclined to believe that (as unfortunate as this is) the Navy/Marines are making a public criticism of CrossFit for liability purposes. This is the JAG lawyers more than it is anything else.

N=1. I know an active duty Navy Seal. He is 100% Paleo per recommendations of a Navy nutritionist and the workouts he describes doing while training with his boat crew would put CrossFit workouts to shame. No offense to CrossFitters, of course.

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A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on April 19, 2012
at 04:08 AM

I think it's kind of a waste of bandwidth giving that site attention (yet here I am doing it). It's so replete with unsubstantiated accusations, and a perfectly despicable style and tone that I wonder "is this parody that I just don't get?" The sensational title was repeated three times before the text actually appeared, and that long list of "appropriate tags" at the end is like, I dunno, Web circa 1999?

I mean, it says "...the court found crossfit guilty as charged and crossfit was socked with a judgement against them in court for over 0 thousand dollars." Ohhh! 0 thousand dollars--in COURT!! Must have been pretty awful!

I never did crossfit, and honestly don't even know what it is. I do know any sort of prescribed, scheduled, structured gym-based fitness routine is100% optional when it comes to health and fitness, individuals are generally responsible for their own choices, and other things cause rhabdomyolysis besides faulty exercise programs. Jeez, I took a common pharmaceutical once that came with warnings of elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis.

Also, don't put too much faith in MDs. It was an MD who ruined a close family relative of mine with 2 years of an intense anti-rheumatoid drug cocktail when the whole time she just had a herniated disc. And MDs are telling people to take statins and eat low-fat, high-refined carb diets--even when they have no evidence of CVD. Medical credentials are dubious metrics of skill and effectiveness, at best. I'd take an intellectually curious, science-minded clinician over an establishment-whipped MD beholden to the pharmaceutical industrial complex any day.

This sounds like all smoke and no fire to me. I prefer to draw my conclusions from resources that cite their source material, and have some basic, reasonably adult communication skills. Piffle, this is. Sort of a fun read, but mostly meh.

Ee9e7d48c57fe38853a13d6d7cfe65a2

(150)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:14 AM

I also had a poe's law moment with this article. Interwebs, you crack me up.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:16 AM

*like it was a waste of time

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:14 AM

Well, at least you read the article. I could barely get through the first few paragraphs before I just felt like it a waste of time. I wish I had caught the "over 0 thousand dollars" line. Hilarious!! I agree, the way something is communicated makes a world of difference for me.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:41 AM

Not sure I understood rant about Cordain not being a medical doctor. All my professors in college were doctors -- they had DOCTORATE degrees! So what if he isn't a medical doctor, he's a specialist in his field!

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on April 20, 2012
at 02:53 PM

@MiMintzer, that was my thought too. It's a lot easier to question someone's credentials than to do the work of challenging their arguments/positions. And the reverse seems true as well; that is, it's easier to assert one's own credentials as validating one's argument instead of actually substantiating it.

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F524eaa9d58e5cd2d2368ff7bfffda9c

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on April 19, 2012
at 02:46 PM

The only benefit to crossfit is that it keeps physical therapists and chiropractors in business.

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531b053b68e92ac509fc1544f88dc103

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:08 AM

This article reeks of malice and hate. I suspect the author has an ulterior motive. The CEO doesn't look obese. He's also not suffering any medical health problems - that was merely the opinion of the author. The dude is just getting old and probably not eating 100% paleo. Most of the managers of the gyms I've belonged to were fat as well - probably from the stress.

The only point that is worth thinking about is that modern cows are not paleo. This is true. They are wild, raging, beasts by nature and have been bred to be docile, lazy, grazzing creatures. I don't eat beef myself because my intuition tells me that they just aren't natural creatures. I prefer seafood - it's been around for billions of years and you can't beat that for "primal" food.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:42 AM

But..in a question you asked, you said you ate grass-fed beef? Not trying to stir anything up, but I'm just wondering if you think grass-fed is more "wild" or something.

531b053b68e92ac509fc1544f88dc103

(1205)

on April 19, 2012
at 06:36 PM

I will eat grass-fed beef once a week as a treat, but it's not part of my staple diet. I keep things on the lean side with salmon, chicken, and turkey. All saturated fat makes my cholesterol jump sky-high.

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2f6ef8ed84e943285c1386254d3c66ea

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on August 30, 2012
at 09:08 PM

Who cares, cross fit sucks ass.

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1e443a3241f80129faa05125ce346e47

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on June 04, 2012
at 01:58 PM

Haven't read the article, but it looks like a typical fallacy (a typical post hoc ergo propter hoc in this case). It's not because one person on a specific diet is ill, that the diet is necessarily bad. There are other factors besides diet (such as the alleged alcoholism in this case) that also play a role. I'm so tired of all of these fallacies.

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E95216c62a14d21c371fcbf2fed8469b

(1867)

on June 04, 2012
at 01:14 PM

The death rate of hoo-mans is still 100%

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8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

on April 19, 2012
at 03:37 PM

This article sounds like hate mongering and INACCURATE (?from conventional wisdom and/or vegetarian/vegan) ... look at this excerpt:

"In Crossfit, on a Paleo Zone diet, you would truthfully NOT be permitted to drink tap water. This means you can???t drink out of the water fountain in the gym to hydrate yourself. You can???t bring tap water from your house, or even drink any water from your faucet in your house if you???re following Paleo. Why? Cavemen didn???t have treated water. You can???t drink disinfected water. You have to go outside the gym, or out of your house, and drink out of a puddle. That???s what cavemen did. And according to the paleo diet, you are actually DESIGNED for that. Oh, and also you can???t drink bottled water either. That???s been purified and disinfected. You cannot drink gatorade, electrolytes, vitamin water, power ade, or any other sports drink. You have to go outside and find a river, or stream, hopefully NOT infected with cryptosporidium, and put your mouth down to the ground and sip up the water, algae, muck, twigs, leaves, bug parts, worms, parasites, or anything else. Afterall, according to paleo, drinking water potentially infested with worm eggs and larvae, pinworm eggs, fecal droppings, urine, ecoli bacteria, salmonella, is what you did for millions of years and so you should be not only "ok" but you are "designed" for it, and also you should have your child and baby do it. Paleo says drinking this not only won???t hurt you or your family, but in principle says this should be MORE healthy for you, drinking animal backwash, than today???s water. Enjoy ...."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 19, 2012
at 04:30 PM

It's a very silly article, indeed.

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C492320f8d8e96b6a6fd76ef21d5d2a7

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:31 AM

That was a pretty dumb article. Obviously the guy had a bone to pick with Crossfit, so he marched over to his computer to type up an article that sounds like a ranting teen. Using Glassman as an example of how paleo doesn't work is idiotic. 30 days is all it takes to prove the author wrong.

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9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

(1677)

on April 19, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Where'd you get this information?

"Crossfit is being touted against by the US Navy" This is absolutely untrue, in fact I have very recent information that is contrary to this. I personally don't care for CF but the Navy cannot tell you not to exercise a certain way.

FYI the runner up in the Crossfit games last year is a close personal friend and active duty service member. http://games.crossfit.com/article/josh-bridges-out-2012 Im sure he'd love to participate in the CFG but somebody got to fight these wars people.

Based on a known inaccuracy of the rumors I just commented on Im not gonna respond to the rest other than say when I saw Art Devany at Runyon Canyon no too long ago he looked amazing.

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(10663)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:55 AM

LOL omg Blossom you're awesome. Hey that rhymed!

9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

(1677)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:36 AM

Theres nothing in that 2008 article that says anything regarding Navy PT policy. In fact the Navy and Marine Corps just officially approved Vibram Five finger shoes being worn for PT.

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:15 AM

She said the article said that, not that she personally is saying it.

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:19 AM

The article April summarized and linked to makes the claim that CrossFit has been rejected...she herself is not making the claim that it is actually policy.

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C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

on April 19, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Ok I don't like crossfit mainly because from what I've witnessed they don't seem to practice clean form and careful lifting. It looks kinda sloppy. The whole statement on diet is false. Most of us know from personal experience that gluten and grains don't work well. Other than personal experience there really is no reason to have grains in our diet. None of us are saying a bit of sweet potato fruit and veggies are bad? If you are active you should do well with a bit of extra carbs anyway. Point is meat is a superior source of Essential fatty acids and amino acids. We don't cook our meat to death. Many of us just sear it.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on August 31, 2012
at 10:42 AM

The title is a dead giveaway, if he's the CEO, you can imagine the insane stress levels, lack of sleep, constant issue resolution he has to go through.

I work for a small company, and looking through the emails, I see our CEO is responding to emails all day long, all evening long, and yes, all night long, and then early in the morning. So for sure he's not getting much, if any sleep.

That sort of lifestyle has a huge price.

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on June 04, 2012
at 07:05 AM

Uh oh...Glassman appears to be the next target in CarbSane's sights -

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/crossfit.html.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:47 PM

Ha, see my earlier comment in *this* thread about me thinking it's probably some beachbody coach =D

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:09 AM

People who claim that the paleo diet is bad are funny.

Eat veggies, eat lean meat, dont drink milk or any dairy, no beans, grains. No legumes again...

Proof you can live off the diet are the hunter and gatherers of today. These people dont eat grains, they eat starches, tubers, roots berries, wild game.

People who are nay sayers to something that works and has worked are blind to the truth. It hurts to see people saying that bread is good. Its been poisoning all of us since we were kids.

In my opinion eating paleo or primitive is the difinitive balance.

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on April 19, 2012
at 03:06 AM

1) CEO of Crossfit, who promoted the Paleo Diet, now has health problems and that Crossfit is being touted against by the US Navy.

That's a case of n=1. Just because he became sick doesn't reflect the entire success of the Paleo diet and/or Crossfit. Human health is complicated and many variables outside of diet (e.g exercise, emotional health, genetics, environmental toxins), have a role. And besides, paleo is so diverse that one "failure" doesn't speak for the entire paleo world itself (even if it IS diet that caused it): some eat CAFO meat, some eat dairy, some eat grain, low/high carb, some eat dairy, etc. etc. If one person gets sick, we can't assume it was the diet to blame because we all eat so differently. For example, Atkins was "sick" while on his diet, BUT there wasn't a direct association between his health and diet leading to his heart attack. It was likely genetic.

2)There are some stabs in there too about how cows weren't around 2 million years ago (they evolved about 8000-10000 years ago from aurochs, putting them--yup--after the advent of agriculture) so we shouldn't be eating beef.

Human minds have lead to a lot of new technology, meaning new life goals and lifestyles. Our lifestyles are no longer the same as they used to be. Many of us no longer spend all day just looking for food, creating shelter, and making babies, and consequently, we have to created ways to make food preparation easier to make room for the growing population, lower infant mortality rates (in some countries), careers, waiting in line for Santa Claus, and volunteering to socialize kittens. Also, the ecosystem, the weather patterns and landscape of the earth has changed since millions of years ago. We can't do everything the same we did back then. Foraging would be very difficult today because of city life and things like destruction of natural landscape. It is impossible for everyone to go out hunting for their own family because many of us have become communities of specialized skills (e.g. doctors, teachers, cashiers) and not everyone knows and has time to hunt. Thus, farms help feed the community. Cows are around and not "wild" but a complete reliance on wild game with our destructive human tendencies might lead to a lot of problems. If we went by the "we shouldn't eat beef" then there are lots of things we shouldn't be doing...

3)And that Loren Cordain only has a degree in.... Physical Education

Mark Sisson doesn't have a medical degree either. He just has a bachelors, but I trust him more than PhDs and MDs that advocate for a raw, vegan diet with random week-long fasts. I also have doubts about the leptin rx that Dr. Kruse advocates for, even if he is "famous" and has a MD. I think one's education is only one part to look at when trying to decide whether what they say makes sense. I think lots of people on this PH board are brilliant, and I have no idea what your "credentials" are

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 19, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Eating fruit and some seeds all day is also "paleo" because it's real, whole food. But it doesn't mean that if someone who gets sick on a 90% fruit diet means that the "paleo" diet, as a whole, is a mistake.

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on April 19, 2012
at 02:46 AM

Just because one guy doesn't look good you cannot blame the whole group. I bet he doesn't even follow a proper paleo diet. Anyone eating nutrient rich grassfed beef, offal, free-range eggs, and a substantial amount of organic produce is going to look good. Especially if they have a low-stress life and get proper rest everynight and between workouts.

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