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Paleo making me sick?

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Created October 23, 2012 at 1:21 PM

A nutritionist suggested I try a Paleo-type diet to help me with my allergy/sinus problems that I have been suffering with for as long as I can remember. I am a 31 yr old female and I am also trying to lose some weight (about 50 lbs). I don't really eat much meat - I will eat boneless chicken breasts, raw fish (sushi), some cooked fish, eggs, and ground turkey... but not much else. Up until now, carbs were a huge part of my diet, but I do eat a lot of veggies as well. And, meat was a small part of my diet... I ate it along with pasta/bread/etc.

I am finding now that I can't even think about eating meat without feeling like I'm going to throw up. Yesterday I tried cooking a few different things and I couldn't bring myself to eat any of it. Has anyone else experienced this? I couldn't eat anything yesterday... Then this morning I tried a veggie smoothie with a banana and a little sunflower seed butter, but I only took a few sips before I felt sick. I just had a scrammbled egg at work, and so far so good... but this is nuts! I need to be able to keep food down.

I am thinking of altering my diet to be just gluten-free (instead of grain-free), dairy-free and legume-free... that will open up a few more options for me. I will still try to be as low-carb as possible, but I don't think being completely grain-free is realistic for me at this point.

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on October 25, 2012
at 09:55 AM

thanks! I think you're right... that does help!

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on October 24, 2012
at 11:53 AM

Low carb can be a useful strategy (weight loss/diabetes/epilepsy), but paleo is not necessarily low carb. Carbs are not inherently bad. Modern, processed food containing flour/sugar/HFCS/veg oil is bad. I can't say whether you should include safe starches and fruit, but it is very possible to lose weight with potatoes and fruit. Calories count after all.

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on October 23, 2012
at 09:17 PM

Bacon, in my opinion, can fix everything. :-) Bus seriuosly, eat more avocados and sautee your veggies with coconut oil. Fat is satiating. Sweet potatoes are also great with grass-fed butter. Try those simple foods to see if that helps.

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on October 23, 2012
at 06:58 PM

I didn't have stomach issues before starting a paleo diet... so 3 wks later I would?

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 06:58 PM

I will try the rice idea! Thanks!

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on October 23, 2012
at 04:10 PM

Yeah, it sounds to me more like a gut issue, which would point to either needing a time period to adjust and get your body pumping out the digestive enzymes that you didn't need before, OR a gaps-type protocol (but shorter) to ease the gut in. Little early to tell probably for food allergies, non?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on October 23, 2012
at 04:07 PM

Yeah, I was thinking some white rice in a nice bone broth is really helpful to get over the hump, so to speak. Probably a gut adjustment.

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:29 PM

Chicken soup. The GAPS intro diet is restrictive, but full of gut healing and soothing recipes. You could just have a stomach bug unrelated to Paleo.

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:22 PM

The kind of fish can make a difference. White fish is very lean, whereas salmon and tuna are fatty.

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:17 PM

No, I don't eat skin on the chicken... as for fish, raw fish I will eat salmon and tuna mostly... but cooked I eat white fishes (tilapia, etc). I did mention that I eat those foods in my original email - just not specifics.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:48 PM

You didn't mention any of that. If you want helpful answers, you have to give people all of the information. All of that stuff is still really lean, regardless of the plant and seed oils you use to cook it in. Did you eat the skin on the poultry? What kind of fish?

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:46 PM

I understand your point, but it isn't s specific food that has been making me feel sick lately... just the idea of eating MEAT or EGGS, or anything really. All I could stomach yesterday was carbs and that's not good.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:39 PM

My point is that anything you are eating could be making you sick - don't eat whatever it is. There is no paleo requirement to eat anything specific. And you will have to work it out on your own. Eating non-paleo (processed crap) is not going to lead to better health than eating real food.

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:24 PM

Did I say that? No... Right now I'm not eating much of anything b/c I can't stomach the thought of eating anything. But, I was eating eggs, turkey bacon, veggies, chicken, fish, turkey, nuts, seeds, avocado.. I'm using olive oil and coconut ols to cook with... etc. I eat huge salads daily with grilled chicken on them mostly...

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Yes, I'm sure... haven't done anything that would get me pregnant in the last few months!

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Um, thanks... didn't really answer my question... I do not have food allergies. I have been tested. I have other allergies (dust, mold, dogs, etc) and bad sinus problems.

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on October 23, 2012
at 01:48 PM

Sure you aren't pregnant?

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Is it possible that your body is just cranky because of the major shift in your diet? I know that I had carb-related issues until I adapted to be more of a fat burner. I don't put it past our brains and guts to rebel a bit when we make changes. And meat digests differently - unlike pasta, it's not being processed like sugar. If you padded the diet right now with some white rice, would that help? And make sure you're getting enough fat. Again, some extra calories, not meat. As a long time gluten free eater, I really do think that gluten free pastas and such are a crutch. There's really never any time when you can't put your sauce or meats on top of salad or sauteed veggies. (Doesn't mean I don't miss mac and cheese!) Maybe transition more slowly and give your gut a chance to learn how to digest more meat dense meals.

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 06:58 PM

I will try the rice idea! Thanks!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on October 23, 2012
at 04:07 PM

Yeah, I was thinking some white rice in a nice bone broth is really helpful to get over the hump, so to speak. Probably a gut adjustment.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:07 PM

If you have food allergies, then just eating paleo may not do it. People have allergies to a number of paleo foods - eggs, for example. Some people are sensitive to nightshades. You may want to look into a GAPS protocol or something similar. Also, don't be fooled into thinking that paleo is any one thing. Paleo simply means real food. Plants and animals. No processed crap. But that doesn't mean you can eat any plant or animal. You have to find out what works best for you. Eating a ton of meat is not required (although some of us do well on more meat than plants). Unfortunately, you have to figure out what works for you. It's all paleo, unless you dive into the Cheese Doodles.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on October 24, 2012
at 11:53 AM

Low carb can be a useful strategy (weight loss/diabetes/epilepsy), but paleo is not necessarily low carb. Carbs are not inherently bad. Modern, processed food containing flour/sugar/HFCS/veg oil is bad. I can't say whether you should include safe starches and fruit, but it is very possible to lose weight with potatoes and fruit. Calories count after all.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on October 23, 2012
at 04:10 PM

Yeah, it sounds to me more like a gut issue, which would point to either needing a time period to adjust and get your body pumping out the digestive enzymes that you didn't need before, OR a gaps-type protocol (but shorter) to ease the gut in. Little early to tell probably for food allergies, non?

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

(5)

on October 23, 2012
at 02:46 PM

I understand your point, but it isn't s specific food that has been making me feel sick lately... just the idea of eating MEAT or EGGS, or anything really. All I could stomach yesterday was carbs and that's not good.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 23, 2012
at 02:39 PM

My point is that anything you are eating could be making you sick - don't eat whatever it is. There is no paleo requirement to eat anything specific. And you will have to work it out on your own. Eating non-paleo (processed crap) is not going to lead to better health than eating real food.

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

(5)

on October 23, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Um, thanks... didn't really answer my question... I do not have food allergies. I have been tested. I have other allergies (dust, mold, dogs, etc) and bad sinus problems.

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on October 23, 2012
at 04:06 PM

I think a big increase in protein can do that for some people. I go through phases when I'm under the weather or have mixed something up in my diet and I can NOT stand eating food. Just, blech, all of it turns me off. Usually I'm overeating on protein, so that might be something for you to look at. I know how you feel- lots of paleo folks will be all "how can you not love meat and veggies all the time?!?!?!", but the change in macro ratios that usually accompanies it, and having to eat it every meal without some favourite staples- it can really shoot your appetite in the foot.

Otherwise, it's just a big change, and it can make you feel really weird and blech as you adjust. I think in the transition period it's okay to increase the palatability of foods to get accustomed to eating them- some "paleo-ified" meals that smell, look, and have a similar texture to what your normally eat (ex spaghetti squash with meat sauce seems a lot like regular spaghetti etc). I also do some dairy, so plain 24 hr fermented yogurt (no lactose) becomes a staple. Sheeps cheese with roast beef and pickles is always very appealing to me. Traditional roast chicken dinner or chicken wings with a nice rub on them always stimulated my appetite (smell of chicken skin, so appealing). Instead of just throwing things in a pan, maybe look at sites like "Chowstalker". Break out your crockpot and make some hearty stews similar to others you've had. Don't make yourself eat things you wouldn't otherwise be eating right away- try to kind of ease into it to keep the palatability up.

If I'm really blech, I just drink a nice rich, gelatinous chicken broth with tumeric, bit of salt, and a sprinkle of seaweed. Get into fasting mode, build up a bit of hunger, then food seems way more appealing. Good luck!

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:51 PM

I would recommend giving up things like the banana smoothie first off. Veggies pureed with banana and seed butter would make me feel sick too!

Eating a lot of sushi? Where is it from? Restaurants usually use farmed salmon, farmed salmon is really not good on a regular basis-- it's loaded with crap and the fish are fed grain meal-- but I do eat it sometimes myself as I love going out for sushi. :) Tuna is contaminated with heavy metals/mercury and you are supposed to limit your intake to once per week as I recall. Also-- intestinal parasites from the raw fish are a reality. I take the risk anyway cuz I love it, but it's something to consider.

I don't think there is a need for you to completely cut out all grains at the beginning... or ever if you don't want to... have some white rice and white rice noodles for example. Keep it simple and in a small amount-- it's a new way of thinking where the fats and protein and veggies are not a 'side' to the main act: bread, pasta etc. The starch is a small side to the main act: quality meat, fats, veggies.

Well good luck with all of this and I hope you are able to find a quality animal protein that agrees with you.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:19 PM

So you're eating nothing but lean cuts of meat, pureed veggie smoothies for breakfast, and low fat. Sounds like a recipe for Faileo if I've ever heard one.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:24 PM

Did I say that? No... Right now I'm not eating much of anything b/c I can't stomach the thought of eating anything. But, I was eating eggs, turkey bacon, veggies, chicken, fish, turkey, nuts, seeds, avocado.. I'm using olive oil and coconut ols to cook with... etc. I eat huge salads daily with grilled chicken on them mostly...

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:17 PM

No, I don't eat skin on the chicken... as for fish, raw fish I will eat salmon and tuna mostly... but cooked I eat white fishes (tilapia, etc). I did mention that I eat those foods in my original email - just not specifics.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:22 PM

The kind of fish can make a difference. White fish is very lean, whereas salmon and tuna are fatty.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 23, 2012
at 02:48 PM

You didn't mention any of that. If you want helpful answers, you have to give people all of the information. All of that stuff is still really lean, regardless of the plant and seed oils you use to cook it in. Did you eat the skin on the poultry? What kind of fish?

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on October 23, 2012
at 08:51 PM

Shortly after I read your question this morning I was listening to this podcast, and I think you'll find your answer there: http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/6901/629-dr-avery-carpenter-identifies-how-to-overcome-low-carb-diet-difficulties/

9d2b78e550987d2d5648695cbf64437e

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on October 25, 2012
at 09:55 AM

thanks! I think you're right... that does help!

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on October 23, 2012
at 03:27 PM

This may be an issue of food quality.
If you are buying regular eggs and/or regular chicken, stop. You can buy the next level up- usually says natural or cage-free; I can definitely taste the difference. It would be nice if they let the chickens eat insects life they are supposed to, but I guess I've got to wait until I can live somewhere where I could have them in my backyard. As to chicken in particular, chicken breast is terrible.
I have to buy frozen chicken from the health food store, and then I get the thighs and legs, not the breast- well unless I get a whole chicken, in which case if I am eating any of the white meat I have to eat it by dipping it into butter first.

I once went through a raw phase and actually tried to eat raw chicken. This was one of the 'natural', more expensive brands from a mainstream store. Chicken comes from the store already tasting rotten. It isn't like beef. You can buy a roast from the store, bring it home and eat it raw. It doesn't taste bad raw, though it does take getting used to. The chicken does taste bad.

Anyway, I don't recommend the raw thing. Also, if you boil eggs, even the better quality eggs, you may turn off your appetite there too. There's something weird about boiled eggs, which is great if you are dieting, but not so good if you need to eat more calories.

Supposedly, the mafia has been in charge of the olive oil trade for years and they've been mixing crap Omega-6 oils in with the olive oil for years to improve their profit margin. That might also be an issue for you, though usually O-6 oils make people hungry.

Oh, eat real bacon. Turkey bacon is an abomination. I can't stand turkey either, though I suppose if I had a good source I might try it again.

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on October 23, 2012
at 02:50 PM

Have you spoken to your PCP or possibly a gastroenterologist? If you have any underlying stomach or esophageal irritation then you can have similar symptoms, especially if you find that eating on an empty stomach first thing in the morning is worse than later in the day.

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on October 23, 2012
at 06:58 PM

I didn't have stomach issues before starting a paleo diet... so 3 wks later I would?

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