Oats can be OK for some

Answered on September 13, 2014
Created August 24, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Oats can be fantastic (for those that do not have intolerance). For those who are not sensitive, all the arguments against oats can be countered. *High in phytic acid*. - can be neutralized by soaking in an acidic medium with buckwheat flour overnight. Almonds which are huge on paleo have just as much phytic acid and also tannins and other anti-nutrients. Why is it okay to eat almonds and not oats?? Some self proclaimed nutrition experts (on paleo) do not even mention to pre soak (or how to soak) almonds but in the same sentence, demonize oats for their phytic acid. *High carbs/insulin spike after consumption of oats*. - Hardly anyone eats oats strictly by themselves. I can agree with this on those 'instant oats' sachets with added sugars etc. That insulin spike is more for those that eat instant or highly processed oats. One way around this is to buy oat groats or steel cut. Lower GI. You can also blend up some chick peas to throw in the mix which have an insanely low GI. Almonds have 0 GI and I throw a bunch of them in too. This would lower the average GI of the meal substantially. Oatmeal with a low GI! If you are not sensitive or allergic to oats, oats can be a very healthy addition to a diet (moderation is key). One problem I see with paleo is that many people 'give up' and revert back to really crappy unhealthy diets because they couldn't give up their grains on paleo. With proper preparation and selection, certain grains can be healthy to those that can tolerate them. As for me, I soak rolled oats and oat&spelt groats overnight with R/O then remineralised warm water, apple cider vinegar and buckwheat flour. In the recipe, I also blend up activated almonds (made myself as the price markup for 'activation' is ridiculous), blueberries, coconut oil, banana (with a small section of banana peel) steamed kale, purple carrot, soaked chickpeas, sometimes an apple, chia seeds, goji berries, maqui berry powder and sometimes put in chlorella and spirulina powders. Everything is organic where possible and the result is a delicious and healthy breakfast. Despite the grains! :)

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on August 24, 2014
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on August 24, 2014
at 04:44 PM

I definitely get a bigger blood sugar spike after eating plain steel cut oats than sweet potatoes. Still not as bad as anything wheat-based. Almonds do very little to raise my blood sugar. That's probably the biggest reason people tout them as healthier - blood sugar impact trumps phytic acid content.

Technically almost all nuts and grains are more digestible after a good long soak, including rice and barley and lots of other non-paleo things. It's up to each person to decide what they should and shouldn't eat.

On a second note, just like @cass_2 , I dropped about 10 pounds after reintroducing some soaked grains back into my diet. It's in the form of rice, not oats, but hey! I need to keep my Asian Card.



on September 13, 2014
at 01:07 AM

Um, no.  Oats are a grain, that's why they are not allowed.  While they're relatively harmless when compared to wheat, they are still problematic for most.


Remember, most folks don't react to gluten either and feel fine eating pizza, bagels, bread, etc.  Just because you don't react and get a feel-good glucose rush eating properly prepared oats, doesn't mean they're harmless.  It's only when you take them out for a long time and reintroduce them that you'll know for sure if they're harmless or not.


The whole phytate thing is overblown.


In terms of the whole proper preparation of oats, I'd rather cook up a grassfed ribeye in Kerrygold, a pastured egg or two on top, a bit of liver pate and a few rashers of bacon, and yes, that's for breakfast.  Far less hassle, far more enjoyment, far less of a glucose bomb.



on August 24, 2014
at 03:58 PM

Eat what you tolerate & improves your health....

>Oats are demonised for their high phytic acid while almonds are touted as healthy despite having the same level of phytic acid and additional anti-nutrients<

When you say "same level", is that by total calories consumed? by weight? or by other normalization basis?  I use ntus as garnish / snack and not too many, otherwise I pack the pounds.

The devil's in the dose.


on August 24, 2014
at 02:35 AM

Hmm....I have recently been ferementing oats with whey and buckwheat for days at a time. I then cook them in large batches (steel cut) and then store it in jars in the fridge using small portions for breakfast. I think that they cooling process helps form greater amounts of resistance starch. I reheat bowl fulls at a time and mix in a tbsp of nut butter. Everything else in my diet is pretty much paleo. Since eating oatmeal I have actually lost weight. 


on August 24, 2014
at 01:58 AM

I am wondering why Oats are demonised for their high phytic acid while almonds are touted as healthy despite having the same level of phytic acid and additional anti-nutrients. Yes you can soak them but you can also do the same thing with oats.

High GI foods can be lowered by adding low GI foods. Instant oats rate at 83 (high), cooked steel cut oats rate 42-50. Groats would be a little less. Adding low or zero GI foods in the meal would lower it even more. If phytic acid and a 'high' GI is all that is bad about oats, given these things can be countered, whats wrong with them really? (to those that are not intolerant of course).


You cant say oats are bad because they have phytic acid then tout raw almonds as a healthy alternative :) (I think both can be made healthy)





on August 24, 2014
at 02:25 AM

so eat oats, sho is stopping you?  Oatmeal gives me gas -- so I'll pass.



on August 24, 2014
at 02:46 AM

GI isn't the end all of what is paleo either. Paleo is not textbook low-carb, it's lower carb than crappy diets. If you want to eat oats, fine, nobody will take away your paleo membership card. I send Robb Wolf pictures of me eating gluten, he hasn't had my legs broken by the paleo mafia yet! 

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