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Living in the backcountry with zero prep time and no viable diet plan....HELP

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 08, 2011 at 2:40 AM

So, I'm an outdoor guide in California. I work with kids who have learning disabilities and am guiding them on adventures all over. I cannot eat my own foods....I repeat I cannot eat my own foods. These kids are the type that if I'm eating something different from them than they ask if they can have it, and it starts a huge mental breakdown. This is not an exaggeration. So here is what I have been able to do, when hiding in my tent before they wake, or sneaking behind a tree or whatnot.

6 tablespoons of straight coconut oil a day
3 capsules of fish oil per day
1 multivitamin
2 tuna packs a day (3 oz)

If I'm lucky every other day I can sneak in a small bag of jerky. I always have plenty of peanut butter since the kids eat it all the time, but I know it's not really that great for you.
The kids build the menu so they choose, we try to guide but it's basically carb city; white tortillas, white bread, pasta, oatmeal, bagels, pastries, and granola bars. We sneak veggies in as a side, but no kids eat them so I use them to keep myself a little extra charged, but other than that I have no other way of sneaking in other foods. Does anyone have any tips, secret foods, or anything that can help with this. I am willing to spend money, so that is not a problem, I just dont want to eat SAD. I usually end up giving into the tortillas and apples and oranges. HELP!!! PLEASE

540fd839acd032b3e2904c652b35038a

on July 08, 2011
at 11:19 PM

one problem with running an outdoor program that is non profit is that the meals are purchased for 2.00 per person per meal, so ten people, 60 dollars per day for food, especially when the kids are picky so it doesn't give out course director much wriggling room

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on July 08, 2011
at 01:53 PM

yeah - fluffernutter - or fluff-ah-nuttah!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 12:34 PM

that bread is screaming for its mother!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 12:34 PM

i guess its a new england delicacy. peanut butter and marshmallow fluff on wonder bread.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on July 08, 2011
at 11:34 AM

Agreed- all that sugar can't be doing those kids any good! :(

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on July 08, 2011
at 11:32 AM

+1 for sardines, with the added benefit of there will probably be little risk of the kids wanting it! ;)

8be7a492e2844e2ad5595a6c73974f99

(891)

on July 08, 2011
at 04:23 AM

last i heard it was a peanut butter and marshmallow fluff sandwich.

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

(2435)

on July 08, 2011
at 04:18 AM

Whoops, nutter.

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

(2435)

on July 08, 2011
at 04:18 AM

What's a fluffermutter?

8be7a492e2844e2ad5595a6c73974f99

(891)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:44 AM

here is one... http://paleohacks.com/questions/35747/wilderness-therapy-paleo-feasibility#axzz1RTwGNhud

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:22 AM

That bread is bleeding!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:00 AM

meredith, your torso is lovely and all, but this new picture KILLS me! i love it.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 02:59 AM

i cant believe they let the kids design the menu! seems like thats the first problem! when i worked in adolescent residential treatment facilities, we were very much involved in guiding the kids in meal planning and shopping. if it were up to them, it would be nothing but fluffernutters and mountain dew 24/7!

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B1fcaceba952861d0324bdb291edbbe0

(3159)

on July 08, 2011
at 04:06 AM

... so you are helping kids with learning disabilities (which I laud you for) ... but their diet? Um, I doubt that a SAD diet will do anything but hinder their progress.

Option 1: Talk to the coordinator/supervisor/person in charge about their diet. While they may not be receptive to Paleo per se, they may be keen on an increase in fruits, vegetables, and better fat and protein sources. You can note how these changes could benefit the whole endeavor ... (because, honestly, I think it will ...)

Option 2: Snacks that are quick and you can eat while evading the youngins-

  • kipper snacks, tuna, sardines, etc
  • nuts and nut butters (almond, cashew, etc)
  • Eat the fruit ... if that is one of the only options
  • Eat the kids' vegetables if they aren't eating them. Though, it would be a grand endeavor to get them to eat them.
  • Keep up the beef jerky
  • Pork rinds? Can you get those?
  • Pemmican
  • Avocados, stock up
  • Lara bars ... never had them, but I have heard of some eating them ...

Mmm, good luck!

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on July 08, 2011
at 11:34 AM

Agreed- all that sugar can't be doing those kids any good! :(

540fd839acd032b3e2904c652b35038a

on July 08, 2011
at 11:19 PM

one problem with running an outdoor program that is non profit is that the meals are purchased for 2.00 per person per meal, so ten people, 60 dollars per day for food, especially when the kids are picky so it doesn't give out course director much wriggling room

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on July 08, 2011
at 02:55 AM

You have chosen a pretty stressful set of circumstances! :) Okay, so I've lived in and around National Parks for the last 11 years (employee). When I go backcountry my go to food is sardines. Much better than tuna because it is a small young fish, you can eat the whole package in like 15 seconds flat and they are uber portable. Get them packed in olive oil for more satiety - even better get the fancy ones with their heads on and it's a superfood bonanza! (LOTS ARE PACKED IN SOY OIL _ AVOID AVOID AVOID).

Good luck!

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on July 08, 2011
at 11:32 AM

+1 for sardines, with the added benefit of there will probably be little risk of the kids wanting it! ;)

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 12:34 PM

that bread is screaming for its mother!

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:22 AM

That bread is bleeding!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:00 AM

meredith, your torso is lovely and all, but this new picture KILLS me! i love it.

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8be7a492e2844e2ad5595a6c73974f99

(891)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:42 AM

of course i don't know your diet story or experience or if you have a fear of fruit or fructose, but apples and oranges are very decent carbs in my book (my book is small and not very sciency and basically i wrote it from my own experience) Being as active as you are I would totally recommend chowing on them as fuel, and hopefully this will satisfy that 'grain' tooth you have been working out.

I also wonder if there are any WAPFers on here who might care to weigh in on soaking oats or other ways of easily (and on the down low) preparing grain that might support greater digestive ease and more nutrient absorption. I am envisioning soaking oats overnight...?

Seems like you are good to go on the fats and carbs, just need that protein..

+1 on the sardines...brilliant!

Tanka bars? processed, but may be more convenient than the jerky.

Wow, I'm all out. I say go with the PB and if you want, supplement with a bit more omega-3.

There are a few threads on here specifically about camping paleo. I am sure there are tons of ideas in there. But, the trick is you are eating in hiding..

Just my opinion, but with all that good coconut oil going in your belly, it seems like the dietary meanderings won't be so harsh on your system.

Good luck and thanks for doing good work out there.

oh, and why not put a few days of eating into FitDay just to see what your macros are doing. this might reassure you that things are actually on track for the most part, the SAD isn't taking over, you just aren't getting that big steak your used to.

8be7a492e2844e2ad5595a6c73974f99

(891)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:44 AM

here is one... http://paleohacks.com/questions/35747/wilderness-therapy-paleo-feasibility#axzz1RTwGNhud

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