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It's not that it's not allowed, it's that you shouldn't eat it...but...

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Created March 02, 2013 at 4:57 AM

I think one of the hardest things to deal with I'm currently battling is the idea that I can't ever have a hamburger with bun again. I mean, I know I can, but as soon as I do, I'll surely get incredibly sick from the bun.

Now, I know the proper frame of mind is that this is a health choice I'm making, and I am choosing not to have a hamburger bun because of the negative health implications. I know there's nothing I'm not allowed to eat, as I'm not sentenced to Paleo, I made the decision to change the way I eat.

With all that said, it's not making this any easier. I'm into my third week in the lifestyle, and I guess the question is, does it become easier to deal with this? At some point, will I stop craving every slice of pizza or every savory burger bun I see on tv?

Thanks as always.

Jason

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:51 PM

@Jason... as with Brett, I came to Paleo from 4 Hour Body & prior to that "Blood Sugar Solution". So I side into Paleo over time. Even when doing 4 Hour Body, I did less & less "cheat food" finally pretty much giving up on "bad stuff". A lot people will say "I can't ever have a hamburger with bun again." The truth is....eventually you won't want one. But if you do, have it .... your body's reaction will reinforce your future decision not to. It's all about habit.

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on March 03, 2013
at 02:52 AM

Honestly, after a period of eating real, nutrient-dense foods, chances are excellent you won't miss that hamburger bun or pizza crust.

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on March 02, 2013
at 03:59 PM

I refused to eat a burger in a restaurant sans bun. I don't particularly want to look like some Atkin's yahoo.

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:59 AM

I could have written your response... Totally agree

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:34 AM

I'm superstrict at the moment, but that's because I've had way too many burgers. I want to lose 100 pounds to get back to my high school weight. That said, I think I'm down with the 80/20 or 90/10 when I'm back to being a normal-sized human. I certainly did do it because I admittedly feel much better than i did 2 weeks ago, and it's only been a couple weeks.

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:08 AM

It definitely does get easier, hang in there! Keep all of the tempting food away and then you won't be able to eat it, anything worth having is worth fighting for and good health is certainly worth fighting for.

See those advertisements on TV for what they are - all about profit and nothing to do with health or benefiting the public, it's just about benefiting large scale companies.

After a while all of the foods you used to eat will be much less appealing, probably because you are feeding your body real food and not the processed pseudo-food (which is highly addictive to boot) that so many people eat today.

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:27 AM

I used to be severely gluten intolerant. After cutting it out all it took was the occasional brownie or a half a bagel and I'd be heading to the toilet. Recently, after about a year and a half paleo, I was out with some friends at a restaurant and ordered a burger on a whim. It had been over 4 years since I had eaten a burger (due to 2+ years vegetarian intersecting with 2+ years being gluten free).

Oh I savored that tasty thing and completely expected to feel sick soon afterwards but never did. About once every few weeks now I go out to a restaurant and order and burger and enjoy it. I don't feel bad about it, mentally or physically, so I feel no need to stop.

I see paleo practiced as a very exclusionary diet so often, but I credit it with helping me be able to drink milk, have some beers with friends, or eat a damn burger once in a while and not feel like I just took a handful of laxatives.

I don't quite know the place you're coming from so I'm trying not project, but paleo for me was and is a diet that makes me feel good and I don't have to be married to it. I can cheat and it's alright. I understand this may be different for people with food addictions, but in general I want to eat healthy and not have to practice complete monk-like abstinence of food I enjoy.

TLDR: sometimes you gotta get down with the 80/20 or 90/10 or whatever.

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on March 02, 2013
at 03:59 PM

I refused to eat a burger in a restaurant sans bun. I don't particularly want to look like some Atkin's yahoo.

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:59 AM

I could have written your response... Totally agree

6d1d2c385960f3d82d960ae3cffb3193

(94)

on March 02, 2013
at 05:34 AM

I'm superstrict at the moment, but that's because I've had way too many burgers. I want to lose 100 pounds to get back to my high school weight. That said, I think I'm down with the 80/20 or 90/10 when I'm back to being a normal-sized human. I certainly did do it because I admittedly feel much better than i did 2 weeks ago, and it's only been a couple weeks.

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on March 02, 2013
at 01:04 PM

I hear you, but the way i see it is i can have a hamburger with bun & fries, or i can have 3/4 hamburgers without buns but covered in cheese, bacon & butter

Not a hard choice!

My only vice is sweet things on the weekends watching a film, probably worse than some fries or a burger bun really

I love chocolate covered peanuts & raisins :(

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:15 AM

Coming from The 4 Hour body to Paleo, I can say that it gets much easier as you eat better food consistently. Also, looking at it from the frame of mind of "I'm eating this because its benefiting me" instead of "I can't eat this even though it tastes good" seems to help me out a lot.

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:51 PM

@Jason... as with Brett, I came to Paleo from 4 Hour Body & prior to that "Blood Sugar Solution". So I side into Paleo over time. Even when doing 4 Hour Body, I did less & less "cheat food" finally pretty much giving up on "bad stuff". A lot people will say "I can't ever have a hamburger with bun again." The truth is....eventually you won't want one. But if you do, have it .... your body's reaction will reinforce your future decision not to. It's all about habit.

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on March 02, 2013
at 10:29 PM

There's an element of grief that goes with any big change like this, but you can choose to wallow in it or not.

Instead of focusing on what you can't eat, focus on what you can. It's hard to feel sorry for yourself thinking about juicy steak, decadent seafood, vegetables cooked with plenty of butter or ghee, etc. don't forget some dark chocolate for dessert. Awwww, poor baby!

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on March 02, 2013
at 12:47 PM

"I can't ever have a hamburger with bun again." (Poor me.)

That IMHO is not the correct attitude. What worked for me (with buns but more with sugar) is

"I'm not having a bun today. I'll deal with tomorrow tomorrow."

That's so much easier. Surely it's okay to skip the bun for 24 hours. Many things may happen to change tomorrow. Maybe paleo will be determined to be bunk and buns will be proven to be a health food. Maybe not, but maybe. Maybe you'll meet a life partner who is perfect in every way but NEEDS you to have a bun once in a while for a clever, subtle, and worthwhile scientific experiment. Maybe not, but maybe. More realistically, after some number of repetitions of this daily pattern, you may lose your desire for buns. A month from now, you may be reveling at eating a pure burger without diluting the taste with a bun. Could be. In fact, that's what has happened to me. When I see a hamburger, I no longer have a desire for a bun. More to the point for me, when I see a cookie or cake, I actually don't want it. The other night a person offered me a taste of cheesecake, and I took a small one (mindfully, for fun), and I didn't even like it! But I loved loved loved my lambchop.

So it may be deprivation now, but it probably won't be for life. In any case, just get through today and that's all you need to do today.

I never smoked, but I imagine quitting is similar. How will life be worth it without a cig? But it will be. In fact, it will be better since you're not worried about lung cancer any longer.

You're breaking a habit. It'll be hard for a while. If you succeed and get to the other side, you'll be fine.

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on March 02, 2013
at 11:15 PM

Three weeks is NOT enough to clear the desire out of your mind at all. You are still in the hardest part; just beginning to start letting go of deleterious stimulation cravings while their taste and effects are still fresh in your mind, but before the power, energy, and rush of eating foods that give without taking have had a chance to become the more dominant impression.

Go long enough without tasting them, and it won't matter at all. One slip, and your mind is back to the craving. That's how it goes.

It's not at all unlike a newly recovering alcoholic or drug addict.

Foods that take without giving cause us the strongest cravings.

Consider this: In life we indulge in good and bad things. Both can be associated with a desire for stimulation. When we indulge in a good thing, the level of gratification is positively correlated with increased indulgence, while desire for more is negatively correlated, so that at some point we reach an equilibrium of satisfaction and feel content to stop.

Conversely, when we indulge in a bad thing, the level of gratification is negatively correlated with increased indulgence, while desire for more is positively correlated, so that the more we indulge, the more we want, and by default, the less satisfaction we feel. We only stop due to sheer will power or becoming sick.

Either sugar, alcohol, or cocaine could easily fit that description! When we are hungry, and eat a steak, we reach satisfaction. When we instead eat ice cream, or even bread for some, we all know what happens. Stopping either because of will power or nausea isn't exactly satisfaction. With a steak, we don't crave more hours after eating it. With sugar/carbs, it's the reverse.

Starchy Carbs have a place to cause favorable hormonal rushes for leptin release, fat burning, and tissue growth, when dosed and timed appropriately. Sounds like a drug doesn't it? It's a dance with the devil. Used right, they help us. But they can get out of hand fast. Not like that with meat and veggies.

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