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Is it possible to improve and ultimately banish certain STD's with a Paleo diet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 05, 2012 at 1:19 AM

I know that Paleo significantly improves autoimmune diseases and many other diseases but what about sexually transmitted diseases such as genital herpes? I'm wondering because it affects a person whom I love and this person goes through terrible outbreaks, and feels like there is no hope. I suggested a change in diet and I just started Paleolithic eating myself and have felt the change I feel and in my overall health. I just want to know if anyone is knowledgeable in the correlation between this lifestyle and std's. Thanks.

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[cont] "3. The virus travels by axonal transport to sensory nerve cell ganglia. ... The latent genome can persist for the life of the host. What happens to the viral genome during latency? (For some viruses like HIV the viral genome is integrated into the host's DNA, but for herpesviruses, the genome survives as a free plasmid (episome) in the cytoplasm or nucleus of the host cell. Sensory neurons latently infected with herpes simplex virus harbor 10-100 copies of the viral genome as nonintegrated, circular extended concatemers."

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on February 02, 2013
at 11:12 PM

[cont] These are the reasons that an infected person should have hope: because it is manageable, and the effort required to keep it suppressed declines significantly over time, even though the initial push does feel insurmountable. Touting the possibility of a "cure" is spreading false hope. "Being cured" also comes with the mental standpoint of being absolved of the situation, which is not the truth. It will be there forever, and you cannot consider yourself cured and forget about it. Do some reading here: http://web.biosci.utexas.edu/field/mic361a/herpes.htm , specifically: [cont below]

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at 11:03 PM

Blue, to clarify my standpoint: I carry HSV-2, and I have not had an outbreak in three years. Topical coconut oil and washing with tea tree oil soap during outbreaks, regular cycles of 70% carvacrol oregano oil and red marine algae supplementation, and the addition of raw goat's milk (a consistent lysine source in a dairy-less diet, as well as the benefits to the gut flora and immune system) to my otherwise clean and paleo diet were the key factors in suppressing the virus. I have tested negative since, and I have not ever taken a prescription anti-viral. [cont below]

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on February 02, 2013
at 09:00 PM

I wish I had enough reputation to be able to downvote you.

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on February 02, 2013
at 08:58 PM

The one partner thing may or may not have been the case, but humans lived in small groups of maybe a few dozen at most, so there were only so many potential mates who aren't your siblings (we have an instinctual aversion to incest).

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on February 02, 2013
at 06:27 AM

believe what you want to believe man. that's on you. i'm here to give people hope, as i know it is possible. im sure you are also the type that thinks valtrex, acyclovir and all the synthetic pharmaceuticals work on organic human bodies.... with that type of thinking, you are not going anywhere... the universe will back you up if you work hard to accomplish something. you are entitled to your opinion for sure, but that doesn't mean that i have to believe it. i truly hope you see the light one day mister i think western medicine is right....

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on February 02, 2013
at 05:35 AM

Please stop spreading this pseudo-science belief-based bullshit. You do not cure herpes; you can simply suppress it. Testing negative indicates that you have suppressed the virus to the extent that it does not exist in measurable amounts on the skin that is swabbed. The virus continues to exist in the CNS for the lifetime of the organism infected. Manifestation and outbreak are largely affected by lifestyle; a clean diet, attention to amino acid ratios, omega ratios, and use of antiviral agents will help with the suppression. Do some reading on neurotropic viruses and neurovirulence.

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on September 06, 2012
at 06:38 PM

I don't remember details, but I think Jackkruse has mentioned supplements that can help combat it. Try googling "jackkruse" and whatever sti you are looking for.

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on September 05, 2012
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+1 for paleo is not magic.

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on September 05, 2012
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If you improve your immune system you certainly have a better chance of not having an outbreak, but that doesn't change anything about the underlying infection, just how your body responds to it. STD's have evolved right alongside humans for a long, long time, likely going all the way back to the paleolithic.

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on September 05, 2012
at 01:57 AM

No. This type of thinking will get you laughed out of any SAD conversation and ultimately takes away from the credibility of our community. Herpes is a virus that can be suppressed from breaking out, but no cure, certainly not a holistic cure.

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on September 05, 2012
at 12:00 PM

+1 for paleo is not magic.

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on September 05, 2012
at 02:19 PM

There's no cure for herpes, though diet can control it, especially things like coconut oil, or red palm oil. (The MCTs are antiviral to some extent.) It'll stay dormant until you have high stress or an otherwise suppressed immune system.

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on September 05, 2012
at 11:05 AM

I've actually wondered about this as far as getting an STD in the first place. Do you think that you would be less likely to get one because of your immune system being tougher than most people on a SAD? Didn't we mate more freely in Paleolithic times? The whole "one partner" thing seems a little far fetched and I've not really met very many people that, that actually worked.

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on February 02, 2013
at 08:58 PM

The one partner thing may or may not have been the case, but humans lived in small groups of maybe a few dozen at most, so there were only so many potential mates who aren't your siblings (we have an instinctual aversion to incest).

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on September 10, 2012
at 11:55 AM

Most of the bad reputation of Brit food is a direct result of wartime shortage and post war austerity, I know, we often had many meatless days and poor quality vegetables and other ingredients until the dawn of the seventies. The big food processors hung on to wartime recipes because they were highly profitable to produce. Much more information available on http://www.healthace.co.uk/

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on February 02, 2013
at 05:16 AM

There is a cure for herpes, it is just different for every person. Those that cling on to the belief that it is impossible to cure will NEVER cure it. Those that know they will cure themselves WILL. Honestly, there is a lot that can be done to get rid of the herpes, you just HAVE to change your whole life. Eating paleo is certainly a step in the right direction, but honestly, it is going to be a lot of TRIAL AND ERROR along with POSITIVE THINKING and knowing that it can be beaten. Don't let anyone in this thread tell you they can only be suppressed, as I KNOW people that have tested positive and then tested negative. It is possible, as ANYTHING is possible, but it is certainly not an easy task, and it requires a person to change their whole life and make up for the horrible years of nutrition and damage to the immune system...

tell your friend to look into aromatherapy, nosodes, oxygen therapy, NES, among a lot of other things and treatments that can get rid of it... it won't be easy, but what is? tell your friend to be positive, get in touch with his WHOLE entire being, mind body and spirit and start the path to healing. Realize that there are people that have done it, and if they can, so can you. The people that posted above don't have it or have never had it, and have never seen anyone heal themselves, where I have seen many heal. Heard countless testimonies and know them in real life.... You have to get tested to see if you have the DNA of the virus not the one they do for STD's since the antibodies will always be there since it was already inside the system. You have to check for the virus ITSELF. Not only that, but after achieving full health, the person has to continue being healthy and taking care of their body because once compromised, it becomes easier to get compromised again....

Herpes is basically a beautiful life lesson that a person gets that helps them realize that they need to get their body back to full health. It is the realization that the path they were carrying on had to be changed. The ones that i know whom healed it always thought of herpes as a blessing in disguise, something that helped get their lives back on the right path... positive thinking + hard work + getting to truly know your body and a lot of research = success. NEVER GIVE UP <3

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on February 02, 2013
at 06:27 AM

believe what you want to believe man. that's on you. i'm here to give people hope, as i know it is possible. im sure you are also the type that thinks valtrex, acyclovir and all the synthetic pharmaceuticals work on organic human bodies.... with that type of thinking, you are not going anywhere... the universe will back you up if you work hard to accomplish something. you are entitled to your opinion for sure, but that doesn't mean that i have to believe it. i truly hope you see the light one day mister i think western medicine is right....

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on February 02, 2013
at 11:13 PM

[cont] "3. The virus travels by axonal transport to sensory nerve cell ganglia. ... The latent genome can persist for the life of the host. What happens to the viral genome during latency? (For some viruses like HIV the viral genome is integrated into the host's DNA, but for herpesviruses, the genome survives as a free plasmid (episome) in the cytoplasm or nucleus of the host cell. Sensory neurons latently infected with herpes simplex virus harbor 10-100 copies of the viral genome as nonintegrated, circular extended concatemers."

Db4f4768f06e8e5cd95dffa536c2a9ab

(133)

on February 02, 2013
at 09:00 PM

I wish I had enough reputation to be able to downvote you.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on February 02, 2013
at 11:12 PM

[cont] These are the reasons that an infected person should have hope: because it is manageable, and the effort required to keep it suppressed declines significantly over time, even though the initial push does feel insurmountable. Touting the possibility of a "cure" is spreading false hope. "Being cured" also comes with the mental standpoint of being absolved of the situation, which is not the truth. It will be there forever, and you cannot consider yourself cured and forget about it. Do some reading here: http://web.biosci.utexas.edu/field/mic361a/herpes.htm , specifically: [cont below]

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on February 02, 2013
at 05:35 AM

Please stop spreading this pseudo-science belief-based bullshit. You do not cure herpes; you can simply suppress it. Testing negative indicates that you have suppressed the virus to the extent that it does not exist in measurable amounts on the skin that is swabbed. The virus continues to exist in the CNS for the lifetime of the organism infected. Manifestation and outbreak are largely affected by lifestyle; a clean diet, attention to amino acid ratios, omega ratios, and use of antiviral agents will help with the suppression. Do some reading on neurotropic viruses and neurovirulence.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on February 02, 2013
at 11:03 PM

Blue, to clarify my standpoint: I carry HSV-2, and I have not had an outbreak in three years. Topical coconut oil and washing with tea tree oil soap during outbreaks, regular cycles of 70% carvacrol oregano oil and red marine algae supplementation, and the addition of raw goat's milk (a consistent lysine source in a dairy-less diet, as well as the benefits to the gut flora and immune system) to my otherwise clean and paleo diet were the key factors in suppressing the virus. I have tested negative since, and I have not ever taken a prescription anti-viral. [cont below]

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