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Is filmjölk (sour milk) paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Greetings from Denmark fellow Paleohackers =)

My question is if sour milk or filmj??lk - that we in the scandinavian countries eat quite a lot of - is paleo? Since apparently it's actually lactose free and full of healthy probiotics!

/Nate.

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"Filmj??lk (also known as fil or the older word surmj??lk.In Danish Tykm??lk.1) is a Nordic dairy product, similar to yogurt, but using different bacteria which give a different taste and texture. It can also be described as a mesophilic fermented milk product that is made by fermenting cow's milk with a variety of bacteria from the species Lactococcus lactis and Leuconostoc mesenteroides.[2][3] The bacteria metabolize lactose, the sugar naturally found in milk, into lactic acid which means people who are lactose intolerant can consume filmj??lk.[citation needed] The acid gives filmj??lk a sour taste and causes proteins in the milk, mainly casein, to coagulate, thus thickening the final product. The bacteria also produce a limited amount of diacetyl, which gives filmj??lk its characteristic taste.[4] Filmj??lk is similar to cultured buttermilk, kefir, or yoghurt in consistency, but fermented by different bacteria and thus has a slightly different taste. Compared with yoghurt, filmj??lk tastes less sour[citation needed]. In Sweden, it is normally sold in 1-liter packages with live bacteria."

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on May 28, 2013
at 12:51 AM

Since you live in Norway, I imagine that your dairy supply is much cleaner than ours. The farms are smaller, and probably use more ancestral/heritage farming methods. Cordain was talking about the dairy from American factory farms, which is very problematic. Even so, there are lots of dairies here that offer dairy products from cows that are pastured, and raised without hormones or antibiotics. In that case, dairy can be responsibly consumed by those who tolerate it, IMO

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on April 23, 2013
at 09:51 PM

you can get milk without rGBH (growth hormones) and antibiotics. Your best bet is to look for a local dairy farmer. I've been doing dairy for years, and I never had acne, even as a teenager. I'm not sure if that's luck or tolerance, but I'll take it.

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

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on April 23, 2013
at 02:46 PM

So Mark Sisson says it's ok to eat Diary without lactose?

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

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on April 23, 2013
at 02:43 PM

Probiotic filmjölk come in variations which include Lactobacillus acidophilus + Lactobacillus casei, Lactococcus lactis, Lactobacillus plantarum among other pribiotics ..

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

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on April 23, 2013
at 02:38 PM

I personally have no to little (noticeable) adverse effect from eating and or drinking diary products. However, I am a little put off by the thought of consuming diary after seeing an interview with Loren Cordain where he basically tells the viewer that it's one of the worst breakfasts imaginable .. full of growth hormones and antibiotic / drug rest products and that bovine hormones are interfering with our immune system so .. that leaves me a bit ambivalent towards diary in general .. also I've heard diary consumption causes acne .. is that true?

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on April 23, 2013
at 01:14 AM

One thing to add: some people are more gastro-intestinally bothered by casein than lactose. I couldn't find much by way of casein content in sour milk, so gauge things by how you feel and not what strangers on the Internet tell you.

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on April 23, 2013
at 12:31 AM

it would be primal (ala Mark Sisson) but not paleo.

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

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on April 22, 2013
at 09:59 PM

but the lactose is then metabolized by the various probiotics and bacteria added post pasteurization .. so that's why I asked if it's more paleo friendly than say regular eco milk ..?

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

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on April 22, 2013
at 09:56 PM

Well looks like most types of sour milk is produced from pasteurized milk unfortunately ^^

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on April 22, 2013
at 09:33 PM

If the milk is raw from pasture-fed cows - keep drinking it.

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on April 23, 2013
at 01:12 AM

Well...have you tried it? If so, how do you feel after drinking it? If you feel tired, irritable, or any other unpleasant feeling you think the sour milk is causing, stop drinking the sour milk. If you feel a boost of energy and a sort of glowing sensation, keep going. Of course, these are nearer to the extremes than the average person might experience, but play around with things. Also, I'm no chef, but I imagine this would be amazing blended with some lemon and egg yolks and drizzled over beets as a dressing of sorts. That aside, best of luck trying new stuff.

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

(1193)

on April 23, 2013
at 01:14 AM

One thing to add: some people are more gastro-intestinally bothered by casein than lactose. I couldn't find much by way of casein content in sour milk, so gauge things by how you feel and not what strangers on the Internet tell you.

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

(5)

on April 23, 2013
at 02:38 PM

I personally have no to little (noticeable) adverse effect from eating and or drinking diary products. However, I am a little put off by the thought of consuming diary after seeing an interview with Loren Cordain where he basically tells the viewer that it's one of the worst breakfasts imaginable .. full of growth hormones and antibiotic / drug rest products and that bovine hormones are interfering with our immune system so .. that leaves me a bit ambivalent towards diary in general .. also I've heard diary consumption causes acne .. is that true?

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

(1193)

on April 23, 2013
at 09:51 PM

you can get milk without rGBH (growth hormones) and antibiotics. Your best bet is to look for a local dairy farmer. I've been doing dairy for years, and I never had acne, even as a teenager. I'm not sure if that's luck or tolerance, but I'll take it.

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

(1217)

on May 28, 2013
at 12:51 AM

Since you live in Norway, I imagine that your dairy supply is much cleaner than ours. The farms are smaller, and probably use more ancestral/heritage farming methods. Cordain was talking about the dairy from American factory farms, which is very problematic. Even so, there are lots of dairies here that offer dairy products from cows that are pastured, and raised without hormones or antibiotics. In that case, dairy can be responsibly consumed by those who tolerate it, IMO

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on April 23, 2013
at 02:03 PM

It is not strictly Paleo, since it is a dairy product. Is the probiotic Lactobacillus acidophilus? Then it is not likely to survive the gastro environment, although other probiotics may well do. Sales tricks! If it is probiotics you are after it is better to eat other foods.

5af40ea73aef900a486cfd98e241fe86

(5)

on April 23, 2013
at 02:43 PM

Probiotic filmjölk come in variations which include Lactobacillus acidophilus + Lactobacillus casei, Lactococcus lactis, Lactobacillus plantarum among other pribiotics ..

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on April 23, 2013
at 03:59 AM

It wouldn't be strictly paleo, but it sounds amazing otherwise and i wish i could try some

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