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hack #me please

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 04, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Some days I feel like Superman - other days, not so much.
By that, I mean, bloating, diarrhea, pain in lower GI.

I've been paleo-ish for about 8 mos. Love it. Only recently have I noticed issues (that I believe are deficiencies... such as peeling nails, hair less shiny, super dry skin, sinusitis. That's all I can think of for now.)

Okay, so I'm allergic (yes, real allergy) to all of the onion family (including garlic).
I'm also GF (non-celiac, no money/ins. to get "official" Dx).

I'm really ooged out by organ meats & can't find anyone who sells bones (to make broth) (& I don't think my family would appreciate my bringing home bones. They're more squeamish than I.) Farmer's markets are more expensive than the stores around me & "grass fed" meats are OUT of the budget.

I gotta fear of cruciferous veg b/c I've got Hashimoto's (untreated b/c I'm "too young" for treatment).

Which means I'm 30 y/o female, no insurance/money to get a profile done - so please don't recommend that. #defensive-yes

I need more veg, for sure, but, again, I love greens, but shy away due to implanted fears(??) of cruciferous will make thyroid issue worse. Help with this please??

Meats... chicken breast (fam doesnt like dark meat, so I only get the breast), ground beef (non-grass fed), bacon (occasional), deli cut meats (Jenny-O mostly b/c it's GF, yes I'm aware it's "processed" - mostly chkn, turkey or Salami), eggs (many, daily). Dairy: real (non-Kraft - only real 2/3 ingred. cheeses) rarely.
Veg: sweet potato (baked), white potato (baked), broccoli (most often), kale/other greens (once a month-ish), celery Legumes/Nuts: almonds, peanuts, white beans (maybe once a month, usually in soup) Fats: butter (lots!), raw EVOO, coconut oil, bacon grease Fruit: banana, apple (maybe once a month) Other/Specialty: Coffee, tea, rarely honey, rarely spoonful of PB (natural), GF crackers (maybe 4x/year), GF "Pizza" (Amy's rice crust, again, maybe 4x/year), homemade "protein" bars (uses oats, pb, dk choc-powder, lots of butter) (this about 6x/year).

Vits: Calcium, Iron, Selenium, Vit D, Vit C, Mg, Vit E, probiotics too.

Sounds really horrid now that I see what I eat... Obviously I need more veg, and probly need to up my carb intake (less emphasis on this). #tail-btwn-legs-head-hanging

I do use Fitday, not regularly lately (w/major change in schedule). But, I wonder if it's %'s (vits/minerals) are accurate.(?)

Any criticism/comments/advice are fully appreciated. I hope I stated what's necessary. Sorry this is so long. Just really need a re-vamped diet & further education on whether my thoughts (esp. re: cruciferous veg) is right/wrong/outta the ball park.

/sigh/ Hack-me?!

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on February 05, 2012
at 02:04 AM

@All - a great big hug to everyone... thank you for setting my mind straight. This site (that means, you folks!) rule!!!

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 05, 2012
at 02:03 AM

@syrahna - I know. I went to several diff. specialists & they said I was too young (b/c I'd get early osteoporosis). I have noticed, however, HUGE improvement since going GF AND Paleo. ;)

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 05, 2012
at 02:02 AM

I can try a gelatin in soups... thank you for your advice. :)

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on February 05, 2012
at 02:01 AM

thanks for the link - that is a good source of info - something i never thought about. Explains why on VLC I felt more like I had the flu than just LC. =)

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

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on February 05, 2012
at 02:00 AM

oh i would LOVE to be able to do this too... but having freezer storage is my problem too! :)

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on February 04, 2012
at 07:48 PM

How are you too young for treatment? I've been on synthroid since age 24 and should have started sooner. It's a hell of a lot healthier to actually be healthy.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:14 PM

@SuZQ, if you buy gelatine, just add it to any liquid dishes you make. It's doesn't affect flavor, and if anything it improves the mouthfeel of the dish, adds a sense of thick/richness to broths. I do it all the time.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:07 PM

Anemic =/= iron deficiency. If you can't afford grass-fed, just buy fish, that seems fine. Shellfish could improve your health a lot. And lack of zinc is quite possible, but don't supplement it, just eat oysters as you like shellfish. Don't take supplements unless you absolutely have to. Good luck SuZQ :) Hope winter will be over soon...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:03 PM

Gelatin is awesome (it helped me so much and still does), but I would recommend using the Now Foods gelatin if you're on a budget.

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:32 PM

any other options other than bones/gelatin? again, i do have to think of my family & their eccentricities too.

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:21 PM

It looks like pate, you can slice it as thick as you want. I have loved liver sausage since I was a kid. A lot of commercial liverwurst (well, what limited amounts there are) contains corn syrup as a sweetener. But it's cheap if you want to try it.

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:15 PM

you can also avoid the bones and just buy the Great Lakes Gelatin on Amazon

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:12 PM

I've been anemic since I was a child. And I still have a long way to go learning about Omega 3/6. I love a diet nazi, so hack away. Can't afford grass fed/organic. Lamb is $$. And I do enjoy fish, I just need to buy it on sale (dont like tuna/salmon, but like shell-fish).

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:10 PM

Yeah I've noticed the GF pizza kills my blood sugar (i feel bloated & lethargic), so you're right. I'll definitely check out the liver sausage. Sounds like something I wouldn't be too frightened of! lol

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:09 PM

awesome, ok so add fish (which i do like, dunno why i dont eat it), i do eat red meat (but it's ground beef or stew meat). (Sorry i forgot that). and YAY! I can eat kale! Thank you!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:02 PM

@SuZQ : I may be a diet nazi, but your diet is kinda high in omega 6. You don't eat any grass-fed beef or lamb, you don't eat fish. Oh, and you also eat EVOO, almonds and peanuts. Why are you supplementing iron?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:00 PM

Lol, AnnaA : you're going for the Strunk & White badge, am I right :D?

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B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on February 04, 2012
at 04:28 PM

Dry skin and hair suggests a lack of glycoproteins. Gelatine, from skin/feet/hooves/powder, is mostly proline and glycine which are needed to make glycoproteins. You can get gelatine from boiling a whole chicken with some vinegar until the bones are soft.

It may also be a lack of zinc, as you're not eating any red meat, organs, or shellfish (like oysters). This can cause problems with hair and nails. Try eating more zinc rich foods or supplementing it (picolinate form is best).

It may also be a lack of omega-3 fatty acids. You're not eating any fish. Try eating a pound of oily fish like salmon, sardines, mackerel, etc a week and see if it helps. Or supplementing omega-3, look for one with lots of DHA as that's the active part.

Don't worry about cruciferous vegetables, as long as they are cooked the goitrogens are deactivated.

I would cut out peanuts as they aren't paleo and are often contaminated with moulds.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 04, 2012
at 05:15 PM

you can also avoid the bones and just buy the Great Lakes Gelatin on Amazon

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 05, 2012
at 02:02 AM

I can try a gelatin in soups... thank you for your advice. :)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2012
at 06:03 PM

Gelatin is awesome (it helped me so much and still does), but I would recommend using the Now Foods gelatin if you're on a budget.

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:09 PM

awesome, ok so add fish (which i do like, dunno why i dont eat it), i do eat red meat (but it's ground beef or stew meat). (Sorry i forgot that). and YAY! I can eat kale! Thank you!

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:32 PM

any other options other than bones/gelatin? again, i do have to think of my family & their eccentricities too.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on February 04, 2012
at 06:14 PM

@SuZQ, if you buy gelatine, just add it to any liquid dishes you make. It's doesn't affect flavor, and if anything it improves the mouthfeel of the dish, adds a sense of thick/richness to broths. I do it all the time.

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D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

on February 04, 2012
at 05:53 PM

It sounds like you need a new doctor if you have diagnosed Hashimoto's and s/he isn't willing to treat it. Some of the symptoms you describe could come from hypothyroidism (dry skin, etc.).

Meanwhile there is info here about hypothyroidism and carbs that you might find interesting if you don't know it. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=5528

I wouldn't freak out about cooked cruciferous veggies -- everything I've read suggests that the goitrogenic effect is vastly reduced. I used to worry about it after I was first diagnosed, but I stopped.

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 05, 2012
at 02:01 AM

thanks for the link - that is a good source of info - something i never thought about. Explains why on VLC I felt more like I had the flu than just LC. =)

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:16 PM

start a food diary. you may be able to identifty the source of your non-Superman days.

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24d67557966cdfc748fc2b12053e6a23

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:05 PM

30 is too young to be treated for Hashimoto's? Sounds odd, my wife is 37 and was diagnosed with Hashimoto's a few years ago and is getting treatment. I'd get a second opinion.

For organ meats, try smoked liver sausage at the deli. Boar's Head liver sausage is really good. If you have cats they will stalk you for it once they try it. :)

I'd get rid of the oats and prepackaged pizza too.

24d67557966cdfc748fc2b12053e6a23

(335)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:21 PM

It looks like pate, you can slice it as thick as you want. I have loved liver sausage since I was a kid. A lot of commercial liverwurst (well, what limited amounts there are) contains corn syrup as a sweetener. But it's cheap if you want to try it.

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 04, 2012
at 05:10 PM

Yeah I've noticed the GF pizza kills my blood sugar (i feel bloated & lethargic), so you're right. I'll definitely check out the liver sausage. Sounds like something I wouldn't be too frightened of! lol

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5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:58 PM

The only diet thing I would like to add is that for affordability purposes you could try and find someone to split 1/4 cow with you. I'm doing that as soon as I get a freezer big enough haha.

On the supplement side in addition to the fish oil you might want to think about some K2 as well as iodine. Chris Kresser just reformed his stance on iodine in the treatment of thyroid conditions so probably worth a read:

http://chriskresser.com/selenium-the-missing-link-for-treating-hypothyroidism

164ed7cd8d84c926bc66f366619bf853

(495)

on February 05, 2012
at 02:00 AM

oh i would LOVE to be able to do this too... but having freezer storage is my problem too! :)

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