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Does Anyone think there will ever be a diet better than the Paleo Diet?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 19, 2010 at 4:43 AM

Because I'm pretty sure this is the end-all diet of diets.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on September 18, 2010
at 04:01 AM

Yeah, donuts taste great. It's only a few minutes later that you start to feel a bit icky.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 23, 2010
at 08:19 PM

I wouldn't mind some fructose/gluten slurping bacteria. Would depend incredibly heavily on sides tho

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 23, 2010
at 07:53 PM

I like the sugar and fat, and then I feel bad afterwards, even before paleo, when I was 285lbs, I couldn't handle donuts... Tempura always tasted good tho ...

1a8020e101199de55c1b3b726f342321

(1973)

on August 23, 2010
at 06:52 PM

Really? I associate donuts with feeling horrible.

95ab15c8ef50ff0daf87ccbdd52cd3b8

(2384)

on August 23, 2010
at 06:00 PM

It's in one of his books, I think the most recent. (And obviously I'm paraphrasing from memory, but that's the gist of it.)

9ede249a740a4918c6d88c49846feb07

(20)

on August 23, 2010
at 05:33 PM

And regard your knowledge with the deepest scepticism. Or, as Dr. Feynamen said: leave the door to the unknown ajar.

7df8f3cc7f1475c3ecbbd4a4feb87d04

(514)

on August 23, 2010
at 04:17 PM

Do you have a link for that Michael Pollan bit?

1a8020e101199de55c1b3b726f342321

(1973)

on August 20, 2010
at 08:59 PM

Then you are probably being naive.

9bc6f3df8db981f67ea1465411958c8d

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on August 20, 2010
at 07:24 PM

I think I'd keep the grass-fed beef, but I'd create an infinite appetite and eat it all day.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on June 18, 2010
at 11:53 PM

Awesome idea! In that virtual world with virtual food, I'm gonna load up on mac 'n' cheese, potato chips, and chocolate cake.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on June 18, 2010
at 11:52 PM

Awesome idea! I'm loading up on mac 'n' cheese, potato chips, and chocolate cake!

D5780719a9f6fe0bb66ad0eb1ebfa582

on May 19, 2010
at 07:43 PM

The word 'diet' simply means what one eats. Dogs have a 'diet', cats have a 'diet,' even my goldfish has a 'diet.' And, I was opening the question up not because I don't recognize that this is a lifestyle, but because I recognize that in every sense of the word it is a 'diet.' Socially we have given the word a negative connotation.Dieting is a verb, 'diet' is a noun. I'm asking as an open question for people to answer. My life choice is to eat and live the Paleo lifestyle. And be on the 'Paleo Diet.' Because 'diet' is still the correct term. But thanks for the response nevertheless -Karen

03aeff8d87a3b53a449b5b8e9158da98

(3268)

on May 19, 2010
at 05:57 PM

Aaron, take it easy dude. I think we all know what she meant. It's not a lifestyle for everyone. For many, it's just removing processed garbage from what they eat. That's a diet.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on May 19, 2010
at 11:10 AM

We will learn more about our physiology and the paleo/primal diet may evolve but the premise is sound and shouldn't change...

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 19, 2010
at 11:16 PM

Maybe. I hate to say it, but if we ever create the singularity or something and we live in virtual reality, I'm loading up on virtual doughnuts.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on June 18, 2010
at 11:52 PM

Awesome idea! I'm loading up on mac 'n' cheese, potato chips, and chocolate cake!

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on June 18, 2010
at 11:53 PM

Awesome idea! In that virtual world with virtual food, I'm gonna load up on mac 'n' cheese, potato chips, and chocolate cake.

9bc6f3df8db981f67ea1465411958c8d

(3690)

on August 20, 2010
at 07:24 PM

I think I'd keep the grass-fed beef, but I'd create an infinite appetite and eat it all day.

1a8020e101199de55c1b3b726f342321

(1973)

on August 23, 2010
at 06:52 PM

Really? I associate donuts with feeling horrible.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 23, 2010
at 07:53 PM

I like the sugar and fat, and then I feel bad afterwards, even before paleo, when I was 285lbs, I couldn't handle donuts... Tempura always tasted good tho ...

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on September 18, 2010
at 04:01 AM

Yeah, donuts taste great. It's only a few minutes later that you start to feel a bit icky.

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Eb6bfe929604b87fa24cdab687e606c7

on May 19, 2010
at 05:17 AM

there hasn't been for millions of years, I can't imagine a better one coming 'round :)

4
F643ceedde9bbf290f31fc2f814100ed

(486)

on May 19, 2010
at 07:03 AM

What diet can be better than eating what humans are meant to eat?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on May 19, 2010
at 11:10 AM

We will learn more about our physiology and the paleo/primal diet may evolve but the premise is sound and shouldn't change...

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4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on August 20, 2010
at 07:20 PM

Paleonu's opinion rings with me, a metabolically superior diet based on biochemistry and genetics. Epigenetic diet.

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D5780719a9f6fe0bb66ad0eb1ebfa582

on May 19, 2010
at 04:03 PM

Aaron, The word 'diet' simply means what one eats. Dogs have a 'diet', cats have a 'diet,' even my goldfish has a 'diet.'

And, I was opening the question up not because I don't recognize that this is a lifestyle, but because I recognize that in every sense of the word it is a 'diet.'

However, socially we have given the word a negative connotation, saying that 'dieting' is a bad thing, or that one can be bad or good.

I'm asking as an open question for people to answer, not scrutinize my intentions. My life choice is to eat and live the Paleo lifestyle. And be on the 'Paleo Diet.' Because 'diet' is still the correct term.

But thanks for the response nevertheless -Karen

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Ce0b5fd94b1034e96cf710b6f138c29d

on May 19, 2010
at 12:17 PM

I wouldn't say that the Paleo diet is "a diet"; I'd say that it's "our diet" in the true sense of the word, meaning what we evolved to eat as opposed to a distorted eating regime skewed to cause weight loss.

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Ee45f4e70d58f7874616812993252bc8

on August 24, 2010
at 02:36 AM

Definitely; through Nutrigenomics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrigenomics):

Nutrigenomics is the study of the effects of foods and food constituents on gene expression. It is about how our DNA is transcribed into mRNA and then to proteins and provides a basis for understanding the biological activity of food components. [1] Nutrigenomics has also been described by the influence of genetic variation on nutrition by correlating gene expression or single-nucleotide polymorphisms with a nutrient's absorption, metabolism, elimination or biological effects. By doing so, nutrigenomics aims to develop rational means to optimise nutrition, with respect to the subject's genotype.

By determining the mechanism of the effects of nutrients or the effects of a nutritional regime, nutrigenomics tries to define the causality|relationship between these specific nutrients and specific nutrient regimes (diets) on human health. Nutrigenomics has been associated with the idea of personalized nutrition based on genotype. While there is hope that nutrigenomics will ultimately enable such personalised dietary advice, it is a science still in its infancy and its contribution to public health over the next decade is thought to be major. [2]

The fact is that Paleo (and the whole of Nutritional Science) is still really quite primitive. We all do have unique responses to food and the environment, and Paleo is simply just the best (by far!) "general prescription" of what to eat for the average human. There is still much variation amongst us, some are better tolerant of grains like for example the many centenarians out there that lived on wheat daily their entire life and made a ripe old age that many Paleo follows may not achieve. Then there are the various tolerances to dairy/lactose, and nightshades, supplements and a whole host of other individual variances in how we respond to foods.

The future holds some exciting advancements for us, especially those of us already interested and learned on these subjects. In 5-10 years full genome scans will become the norm, and it will be the self-directed/interested pioneers like ourselves that will drive the new wave of personalised medicine, at least initially. It is already happening to some degree, and it will continue to become more and more advanced as we collect more data and the huge potential for uncovering information is realised.

A great example is this:
UK Women at Risk from Vitamin A Deficiency
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2009) ??? Almost half of UK women could be suffering from a lack of vitamin A due to a previously undiscovered genetic variation, scientists at Newcastle University have found. The team, led by Dr Georg Lietz, has shown that almost 50 per cent of women have a genetic variation which reduces their ability to produce sufficient amounts of vitamin A from beta-carotene.

Through the many genetic testing companies offering analysis like 23andMe (https://www.23andme.com/), it is already possible to have your genome scanned (SNPs, not a full scan) and find out many tidbits of information related to your health, like for example if you have the gene variant above which makes you inefficient at converting beta-carotene to Vitamin A. If you do, then you would ensure your diet included preformed Vitamin A such as from ingesting organ meats or cod liver oil for example instead of relying solely on carrots and vegetables. So the age of personalised medicine is already here to some degree, it is just in the very early stages.

Very exciting stuff!

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95ab15c8ef50ff0daf87ccbdd52cd3b8

(2384)

on August 23, 2010
at 03:18 PM

Michael Pollan has a great bit about how nutritional science is about where medicine was in 1600 or so: Some solid basic knowledge, a lot of theories that seem to make sense but will look silly in time, developing at a fast pace, and fascinating to watch... but all in all, kind of scary and you wouldn't really want to stake your life on it. The fact is, we know squat about human nutrition at this point, and while paleo makes a lot of sense as an approach, who knows if it will really be "optimal" given another 50 or 100 years of knowledge?

95ab15c8ef50ff0daf87ccbdd52cd3b8

(2384)

on August 23, 2010
at 06:00 PM

It's in one of his books, I think the most recent. (And obviously I'm paraphrasing from memory, but that's the gist of it.)

7df8f3cc7f1475c3ecbbd4a4feb87d04

(514)

on August 23, 2010
at 04:17 PM

Do you have a link for that Michael Pollan bit?

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84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on August 23, 2010
at 10:44 AM

"Seek the seekers of the Truth, and run from those who have found it"

9ede249a740a4918c6d88c49846feb07

(20)

on August 23, 2010
at 05:33 PM

And regard your knowledge with the deepest scepticism. Or, as Dr. Feynamen said: leave the door to the unknown ajar.

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Ed33691404d94afdc45aea0af89b7185

on May 19, 2010
at 05:17 AM

Unless we evolve significantly in the rest of my lifetime I plan on de-vovling to stick to the paleo diet...

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8d979bd4cf7036400254a9417638616d

on August 20, 2010
at 07:01 PM

It's probably very close to the best but I'm sure theirs still some things that can be improved... But something like paleo 2.0 instead of "new amazing pizza diet!"

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0c049013d82f8ed05d87bba7cf6c367c

on May 20, 2010
at 05:33 AM

From what I understand, the premise of the Paleo Diet is sound. Unless we found that our ancestors ate french fries and drank coca-cola, I would say it's a safe bet that this is the best diet and is the end of all other diets.

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286a4ff7c362241c5c4b020df4972212

on August 25, 2010
at 01:12 AM

I wonder this a lot myself as the learning curve has been enormous for me in the last 4 months. Right now I am wondering about the saturated fat component of Paleo - still trying to work out what is truly paleo? It seems that a lot of this community still rely on dairy ( which is not really paleo right?) and eat a lot of meat and other sources of saturated fat. Now I don't really have a problem with fat per say - but people like Dr Ron Rosedale don't really advocate the use of saturated fats in our diet - more the fish side and less of the Beef and Lamb. More talk about saturated fat causing insulin spikes and less talk about blood sugars.

Does anyone else worry about the effects of insulin spikes? As I am learning as I go along I have realised that dairy and even coconut oil cause me to spike ( I get a sharp runny nose ) so I have started to avoid them as I thought this whole theory was around keeping our insulin at a low level.

So in short - yes I wonder if there is at least an adaptation to Paleo to come ??

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89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on August 23, 2010
at 07:25 PM

Maybe somewhere along the lines of the answer of Melissa: maybe we could genetically engineer bacteriae, introduce them to our gut, and let them take care of all the junk we could eat...

And if that would have worked for 2 million years, I would be willing to change my paleo way of eating...

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 23, 2010
at 08:19 PM

I wouldn't mind some fructose/gluten slurping bacteria. Would depend incredibly heavily on sides tho

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 19, 2010
at 02:51 PM

This question seems to highlight a flaw in the way you're thinking about paleo. You act like it's a fad diet. This question makes complete sense when you substitute "the Atkins diet" or "Body for Life" or anything else for "Paleo Diet".

It's not a diet. It's not a fad. This is, as best as we can approximate, the way we're SUPPOSED to eat. Folks in the know like the acronym "W.O.E" (Way Of Eating) instead of "diet".

Stop thinking this is a "diet". I noticed you tagged this "long term paleo", as if it's abnormal to think of this as something long term. That's not true. When you "go paleo", it's a complete change of ways, not "I'll do it until I lose 20 pounds".

D5780719a9f6fe0bb66ad0eb1ebfa582

on May 19, 2010
at 07:43 PM

The word 'diet' simply means what one eats. Dogs have a 'diet', cats have a 'diet,' even my goldfish has a 'diet.' And, I was opening the question up not because I don't recognize that this is a lifestyle, but because I recognize that in every sense of the word it is a 'diet.' Socially we have given the word a negative connotation.Dieting is a verb, 'diet' is a noun. I'm asking as an open question for people to answer. My life choice is to eat and live the Paleo lifestyle. And be on the 'Paleo Diet.' Because 'diet' is still the correct term. But thanks for the response nevertheless -Karen

03aeff8d87a3b53a449b5b8e9158da98

(3268)

on May 19, 2010
at 05:57 PM

Aaron, take it easy dude. I think we all know what she meant. It's not a lifestyle for everyone. For many, it's just removing processed garbage from what they eat. That's a diet.

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