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Preserve the current Paleo community size? Or support global expansion?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 19, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I have heard plenty of comments about keeping Paleo 'smallish' for certain [usually selfish] reasons. Some people push the 'sustainability' argument. But that's been discussed in another thread.

I think most of you know where I stand, given that I would be excited to see successful eateries and grocery stores flourish.

If eating Paleo captured a significant percentage of people all over the world in the next few years and we began to see things change, would it be a good thing? Which camp are you in? Or do you have one foot on each side of the line?

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on April 20, 2011
at 02:43 PM

Grok: "Fire burn! Fire bad!" Krag: "Fire make make food taste better. Smoke preserve meat. Keep warm in winter. Chase lions away. Fire awesome!" Grok: "No! Fire bad in Grok's hair!" Krag: "...Krag sorry."

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on April 20, 2011
at 05:18 AM

Genetic engineering is the most dangerous precipice mankind has ever found itself on. Ever seen Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? Read the manga, quite a good cautionary tale.

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:51 PM

thanks baconbitch. although i think some people just want to exercise their voting power, as it has been donwvoted a second time. it's all good folks. go for it! vote it to -5. the question will get more attention and answers that way!! lol.

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:26 PM

Well, I upvoted! Excellent question. I love how the Paleo community questions their own lifestyle. So. Frikin. Cool.

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on April 19, 2011
at 07:13 PM

now see here is an example of an odd downvote. on what basis would anyone downvote this? the only thing i can possibly think of is that that I say some people 'push' the sustainability argument, but I did not say my opinion. I only stated a fact. Maybe I push that argument too. Maybe it's a good argument to push. Is this not a good and relevant question for us all to consider?

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on April 19, 2011
at 04:53 PM

definitely starting to see a big mainstream explosion in the past few months. reaching a tipping point, perhaps? when freking PEREZ HILTON is blogging about the paleo diet, you know something is going down.....

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on April 19, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I'm so tired of even pricey restaurants telling me the salmon is farmed. I think paleo may always be a DIY thing. Organic growth - can't be more paleo than that!

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C33e8c236e72d67c4b6c028401d23cce

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on April 19, 2011
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My fad-sense is telling me there's an explosion in the works. We're already seeing it, really. Most people will naturally get it wrong, though, and focus on products like this: http://www.rockwellnutrition.com/PaleoMeal-Organic-Whey-Protein-by-Designs-For-Health_p_659.html

This is, to my mind, the biggest obstacle to a Paleo lifestyle gaining widespread acceptance. People want to do what is easy. Businesses want to do what is profitable. Neither of these is inherently bad--enormous positive changes have been made because of these two desires--but they do make it difficult to get the message across. Most individuals find life both easier and more profitable when they're fit and healthy than when they're tired and sick, but the world is full of snake oil salesmen ready to sell cheap, readily-available poison in 100% polyester imitation sheep's clothing.

Actually, snake oil would probably be healthier.

But some positive changes are already happening. Trans fats are widely known to be awful and some countries are banning the stuff. HFCS is disappearing from ingredient lists. These are baby steps, but they're in the right direction.

The agribusiness leaders will fight this movement tooth and nail, but the meat industry will adapt. They adapted when sanitation became a concern. They adapted when certain cruel practices were outlawed. They adapted when low-fat became the order of the day. They will lead the charge, trumpeting and cheering when saturated fat becomes a health food again. The move to grass-fed meat will be harder, but as the demand increases, so will the supply.

This is a Good Thing.

What adaptations will we see? Well, some of them will be bone-headed idiocy. Maybe we'll see genetically modified grass designed to grow abundantly anywhere and pump cattle full of hormones. (Footnote: I'm all in favor of genetic research and manipulation. It's one of the greatest and most powerful tools we've ever discovered. Just like fire.)

Some adaptations will be a good thing. Ultimately agribusiness will shift some of its grain focus onto vegetables. More and more gyms will offer equipment and programs based on run/jump/climb/swim/carry/throw principles.

As the chain of consequences expands they become more difficult to predict, but some things will remain constant: Some people will be greedy, stupid and lazy. Some people, through work, innovation and luck will blaze a trail so fierce and so bright it forever changes the topography of our culture. Most everyone will get it wrong from time to time, and some of those mistakes will be wide-spread and costly, but slowly, very slowly, perception, critical thinking and communication will lead us in a zig-zagging line toward health and long life.

And, in some of the worse scenarios, a Paleo-informed lifestyle has the advantage of being one of the few that can survive a total collapse of civilization.

So yes, I think it's a good thing.

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on April 20, 2011
at 05:18 AM

Genetic engineering is the most dangerous precipice mankind has ever found itself on. Ever seen Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? Read the manga, quite a good cautionary tale.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on April 19, 2011
at 04:53 PM

definitely starting to see a big mainstream explosion in the past few months. reaching a tipping point, perhaps? when freking PEREZ HILTON is blogging about the paleo diet, you know something is going down.....

C33e8c236e72d67c4b6c028401d23cce

(1884)

on April 20, 2011
at 02:43 PM

Grok: "Fire burn! Fire bad!" Krag: "Fire make make food taste better. Smoke preserve meat. Keep warm in winter. Chase lions away. Fire awesome!" Grok: "No! Fire bad in Grok's hair!" Krag: "...Krag sorry."

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:21 PM

As demand increases for local, sustainably raised crops and cattle, supply will concomitantly increase. This has been the case over the past ten years in which the amount of small, pasture-based American farms has increased significantly as more people are seeking healthier, more sustainable alternatives to Wal-Mart. Dollars being spent on this kind of food are dollars going unspent on unethical SAD food of false economy, and as the cliche goes, we vote with our dollars. I'm under no illusions that we'll be "voting out" Big Agra in any way, but I'd love nothing more than for the little guy, the one who seems to give a damn about his product and his planet, to flourish as much as possible. So I say, let Paleo get big -- HUGE!!!!!

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on April 19, 2011
at 04:10 PM

If the expansion came and pushed a change globally in how we view and produce our foods - then yes please - more paleos and bring on the change.

My fear would be that somehow big business would figure out a way to factory farm grass fed beef - which would just be terrible!

I really hope that the first change that most people will make diet wise would be to limit processed foods. Can you imagine the health benefits seen by that alone.

I don't know if the paleo diet/lifestyle is for everyone - I hope that more people open their minds and give it a try.

I think that the paleo community needs to be welcoming to anyone who wants to try it out! I think that paleohacks does an excellent job of encouraging newbs and I think that we just need to keep up all the positivity!!

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on April 19, 2011
at 04:09 PM

I want to see organic growth, meaning people think for themselves, come to their own conclusions and choose to adapt a paleo lifestyle. I prefer not to see growth caused by posers who follow trends or get suckered into, say, a "Paleo" branded marketing.

The good news is in either case, grocery stores and restaurant would respond.

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on April 19, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I'm so tired of even pricey restaurants telling me the salmon is farmed. I think paleo may always be a DIY thing. Organic growth - can't be more paleo than that!

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