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Do you limit your cruciferous vegetables?

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Created July 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I think I have a build up of oxalic acid...I'm very weak, tired, and lethargic when I go for weeks, even months without giving the kale and spinach a break. Once I cut it I feel 100% better a day later. Tonight I'm gonna eat tons of spinach, and brussel sprouts, and broccoli just to see how I feel tomorrow.

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on January 25, 2013
at 05:00 AM

And supposedly, as dictated to us by the same people, saturated fat kills you, cholesterol is bad, and veganism is the preferred eating pattern for longevity for well behaved humans. And to me, a nice marbled steak tastes way better than spinach.

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on January 24, 2013
at 11:18 PM

I ran out of leafy greens for a week and felt great...I continue to eat them for some reason though haha. i think i'm gonna start rotating them, Leaving them out of my diet every other week and see what happens.

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on July 26, 2012
at 09:18 AM

Oxalate isn't much broken down by cooking, alas.

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on July 26, 2012
at 06:59 AM

Let us know about the results of your experiment.

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:47 AM

i know haha...but its hard to give it up when It tastes so good and supposedly one of the healthiest things you can eat (spinach)

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:42 AM

As I went away, came back and reread this I realized it sounds exactly like the old joke were the fella goes to the doctor and says "doc it hurts everytime I do this"....well stop doing that!

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on July 26, 2012
at 12:17 AM

seriously doubt it Ryan. Get your thyroid checked and also your adrenal (cortisol) functioning is my advice.

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on July 26, 2012
at 12:04 AM

the thing is I started cooking them a few months ago and they still give me symptoms (at least I think they do)...I'm guessing I just eat too much..maybe too much vitamin k or something? too much calcium in the muscles?

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:17 PM

yeah im cooking them

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at 11:01 PM

Are you cooking them?

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:31 AM

I mean, I'll just state the obvious.....GIVE THEM A BREAK. Eat some other stuff for a while. Give your body a chance to cycle through some other source of nutrients. Try eating with the seasons or something. Rather then spending $100's on lab testing and the inevitable faux prescription fix, just do the obvious thing.

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:42 AM

As I went away, came back and reread this I realized it sounds exactly like the old joke were the fella goes to the doctor and says "doc it hurts everytime I do this"....well stop doing that!

0b4326a4949718451a8571b82558dc10

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:47 AM

i know haha...but its hard to give it up when It tastes so good and supposedly one of the healthiest things you can eat (spinach)

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on January 25, 2013
at 05:00 AM

And supposedly, as dictated to us by the same people, saturated fat kills you, cholesterol is bad, and veganism is the preferred eating pattern for longevity for well behaved humans. And to me, a nice marbled steak tastes way better than spinach.

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on January 24, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Im having the same kind of deal, but I had my thyroid checked and everything is fine.

I read that too much vitamin K can cause numbness in the extremities.

I've been having really strange cravings for sugar laden foods that I havent had since I was a child. Which is weird.

0b4326a4949718451a8571b82558dc10

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on January 24, 2013
at 11:18 PM

I ran out of leafy greens for a week and felt great...I continue to eat them for some reason though haha. i think i'm gonna start rotating them, Leaving them out of my diet every other week and see what happens.

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on July 25, 2012
at 11:06 PM

I recommend you have your Thyroid checked.

Cruciferous vegtables (raw) can cause low thyroid and the lethargy and weakness you describe is a symptom of hypo-thyroid.

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on July 26, 2012
at 12:17 AM

seriously doubt it Ryan. Get your thyroid checked and also your adrenal (cortisol) functioning is my advice.

0b4326a4949718451a8571b82558dc10

(2349)

on July 26, 2012
at 12:04 AM

the thing is I started cooking them a few months ago and they still give me symptoms (at least I think they do)...I'm guessing I just eat too much..maybe too much vitamin k or something? too much calcium in the muscles?

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:51 PM

I think you know the solution here, as JayJay said.

Remember when greasy cheeseburgers/donuts/fries/-INSERT SAD FOOD HERE- tasted "soooooo good"? Well, there comes a time when your body knows what's best - and what's not.

Sounds like based on your own n=1 you should give 'em up for a while.

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:00 PM

I agree with what everyone else said, but I would like to add if you are trying to load up on those veggies you may be midding out on nutrition from others. Eggplant, zucchini, beets, tomatos, carrots, and string beans are all in season right now, why dont you get you start eating more of a rainbow instead of limiting yourself?

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on January 25, 2013
at 04:21 AM

I think we are brainwashed by the vegan-hippie-medical-establishment's ideas of what healthy is. Somehow we feel we are denying ourselves crucial nutrition exclusively provided by vegetables if we don't eat them.

I think they serve a purpose. They are tasty. They provide nutrition of course. But for a paleo lifestyle adherent, the practice of "not eating veggies" does not equate to eating exclusively junk food, which is why the recommendation has been pushed IMHO.

Ruminate flesh and organs are more full of nutrition on the whole and less full of anti nutrients than any vegetable and perhaps any other food. They eat the grass, process it, absorb all those nutrients, deactivate all those anti nutrients with their many stomachs, and we eat them and reap the benefits. Eating veggies seems like back tracking to me.

I was raised on greens. I'm from the rural Southern USA. I love them. And when I finally stopped filling my belly with them to provide satiety to make up for the fact that I was limiting ruminant flesh, and started eating to SATIETY only ruminant flesh and organs, a tad of coconut and fish oil, the occasional fish, and that it, I finally got healthy.

Now my IBS and fissures are much better. My digestion is improved. My body-fat decreased and muscle mass increased, I can stay satisfied and alert for 24hrs on water, and I'm a lot happier.

Veggies actually make me hungrier now when I eat them. Ill have then occasionally just for shits-n-giggles, no pun intended, and my own sauerkraut remains a staple in small amounts, but veggie anti nutrients really mess me up. And their fiber grates and scrapes my gut abrasively and makes it quite angry.

So, they seem to hurt you too. Why is it again that you feel the need to eat them?

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Give leafy greens and tubers a chance!

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