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Do you actively avoid GMO food?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Been reading more and more about our food supply.

About Monsanto, seed patents, and GMO food.

I already avoid wheat, soy , and corn.. On nutritional basis, but their GMO status is just as scary to me, if not scarier. Just like those mutant Salmon, I don't like the idea. Even worse is knowing how they do it. Splicing soil bacteria with ecoli to cause the plant to produce it's own potent pesticides.

Canola etc are bad enough without this. But the corn and sweetbeet for sugars are also predominantly made with pesticide manipulated ecoli battered GMO ingredients.

I've teased a few friends who bought Organic Sugar, saying " Organic Sugar is still Sugar". Turns out I may have been wrong, at least the 100% organic is supposed to be GMO free.

I'm going to make an extra effort to stay GMO free and vote with my wallet to buy GMO free food.

Do you make the effort to avoid GMO?

Edit : wanted to also mention, the potential DNA damage to animals fed GMO grains. Another huge reason for grassfed beef. Monsanto better not be making mutant GMO grass!(sadly GMO Alfalfa is out)

Heres a great link I wanted to share about the Potential Dangers, Please feel free to discuss your opinion:

http://www.seedsofdeception.com/Public/GeneticRoulette/HealthRisksofGMFoodsSummaryDebate/index.cfm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 26, 2011
at 11:40 PM

Good citations here from 2000 over a decade ago of these greedy shenanigans and public deceptions: 'GMO paradise on Earth or descent into Hell' http://home.clara.net/heureka/gaia/genetics.htm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:37 PM

Matt -- That movie should be required watching like Food inc and King Corn and Fathead! The reasearcher is from my alma mater College of Natural Resources at UCB.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:32 PM

maj -- The US govt is so infiltrated with corporate profiteering. GMO alfalfa!!! F*ck MonSatan, hate them. They are killing our unborn children.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:30 PM

I missed this thread! Aegis is so with it!!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 26, 2011
at 03:22 PM

Not surprising. Watched a documentary "The Future of Food" (on Netflix) that deals with this very issue. It's a revolving door in Washington. One Monsanto suit went back and forth between Monsanto and the EPA 3 times!

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on April 07, 2011
at 06:59 PM

The links don't address the whole evidence thing. I agree with many of the sentiments but it's all emotional.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on April 07, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Read some of the articles in Stephen-Aegis's link. There's a lot of animal studies and some epidemiological stuff. Some of it compelling. Some of it not at all compelling. I'll concede that Monsanto is no friend to the farmer but they're a corporation (what do you expect?). What's interesting is how the GMO issue conflates all this other stuff, i.e. globalization concerns, abuses inflicted upon the farmer by evil Monsanto, hormones in milk, etc. If we want to know whether GMOs in our food supply could cause us problems we need to go to the research and evaluate it skeptically.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:39 PM

Great link. Thanks for sharing. I opened a few of these and read the reviews of the articles (the originals being in French). There are about 85 citations! In one, researchers concluded that a certain GM corn "disturbs numerous biological parameters" in rats, including liver and kidney funtions, triglyceride levels and so on. In another, researchers found a correlation between introduction of a certain GM soy product and an increase in soy allergies in Britain. While these things are not to be dismissed outright, they are exactly the kinds of studies we need to be skeptical about.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on April 06, 2011
at 01:54 PM

Even if you think GMO foods don't have health risks or that they don't affect you personally, we should all be very wary of them. Monsanto in particular has engineered some of their seeds so that farmers cannot save seed from this season to plant next season because it will not germinate - they have to buy new from the company every year. Stop and imagine the consequences if (or WHEN) this variant gets cross-pollinated with non-GMO varieties in your neighbor's field and now HIS crop won't germinate next year either. Just because I don't eat grain doesn't mean this isn't a serious disaster.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on April 06, 2011
at 12:39 PM

see added link and corresponding studies for your "evidence"

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 03, 2011
at 06:54 AM

Exactly, the USA needs to be more aware!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 03, 2011
at 06:53 AM

Haha Dr. Osborne went paleo, awesome. Good for you Doc. = )

1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

(1600)

on January 16, 2011
at 09:54 PM

I just spent an evening having someone's chihuahua sitting in my lap,staring at me.You are right,it's about as painful as being glutened.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on January 16, 2011
at 02:38 AM

not sure our wheat is technically GM, but its so fricken inbred, mutant selected high gluten dwarf garbage, that it might as well be GMO. kinda like Chihuahua's... worthless.

461312f31b933638202e0308ab4011b4

(258)

on January 16, 2011
at 12:56 AM

yes, i just did a post about this. i'm wondering if food in Europe (or the UK, where I am) will be labeled as GMO or if it will be slipped under the rug?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on January 16, 2011
at 12:46 AM

I'm just avoiding so much already! I'm doing the best I can. I do buy organic occasionally, but not because of GMOs.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:52 PM

I think you need to look up what genetic modification means. The study you link too looked at wheat varieties produced with conventional breeding methods. There is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:50 PM

I think you need to look up what genetic modification means. The study you link too looked at wheat varieties produced with conventional breeding methods. There not is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:45 PM

Do you understand what genetic modification means? Also there not is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:26 PM

I will definitely check out the links. Thanks!

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:26 PM

In your haste to be sarcastic you're not being rational. I don't need to physically "see" my evidence but I do need evidence.

F53a74de3f8df19a114c5ac702af2b12

(826)

on December 28, 2010
at 05:35 PM

Evidently there are wikileaks cables that show Spain and the US conspiring to retaliate on the European countries that resist GMO. Hopefully that knowledge will keep most of your countries resistant to the gmo lobby.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:38 PM

im totally ok with cross pollination. ancient methods didnt splice ecoli and bacteria to produce pesticides.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:37 PM

err meant to say see the sun rotating around us. in my haste to be sarcastic, i forgot to be accurate.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:36 PM

thats a very head in the sand approach. What are these Lectins you speak of. I cannot see them, they must not exist! The earth is the center of the universe, can you not see it rotating around us? There is proof of the GMO modified foods affecting animals, and presumably thru these same processes potentially affecting us.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:40 AM

I absolutely avoid. If I know something has anything GMO in it, I simply will not consume.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on December 27, 2010
at 10:30 PM

Yeah, they'll keep trying to sneak it in in Europe, so you need to stay vigilant.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:37 PM

I agree on the feedlot meat (that's why I said directly vs indirectly). :) In re. breeding/pollination, humans have been artificially crosspollinating different plants for years to get better performing plants or more resistant plants, etc.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:32 PM

Breeding and pollination happen in nature, pesticides from ecoli not so much

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:31 PM

Any feedlot meat is likely GMO and therefore affects us, unless you eat purely pastured natural and wild animals

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:07 PM

Yes I actively avoid GMO food.

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on December 28, 2010
at 03:49 PM

I'll take the contrarian position. I make no attempt whatsoever to avoid GMO anything. While I can't say I like the idea of genetic-modification-not-through-natural-selection, I have no evidence that it's hurting me.

Of course, I follow a paleo diet, so wheat, soy, grains, etc. are not in my diet. But that's due to allergy and health reasons, not because of GMO per se.

Do we have any research or even anecdotes that pinpoint GMO foods as having negative health effects?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:36 PM

thats a very head in the sand approach. What are these Lectins you speak of. I cannot see them, they must not exist! The earth is the center of the universe, can you not see it rotating around us? There is proof of the GMO modified foods affecting animals, and presumably thru these same processes potentially affecting us.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:26 PM

In your haste to be sarcastic you're not being rational. I don't need to physically "see" my evidence but I do need evidence.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:37 PM

err meant to say see the sun rotating around us. in my haste to be sarcastic, i forgot to be accurate.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on January 16, 2011
at 12:46 AM

I'm just avoiding so much already! I'm doing the best I can. I do buy organic occasionally, but not because of GMOs.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on April 07, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Read some of the articles in Stephen-Aegis's link. There's a lot of animal studies and some epidemiological stuff. Some of it compelling. Some of it not at all compelling. I'll concede that Monsanto is no friend to the farmer but they're a corporation (what do you expect?). What's interesting is how the GMO issue conflates all this other stuff, i.e. globalization concerns, abuses inflicted upon the farmer by evil Monsanto, hormones in milk, etc. If we want to know whether GMOs in our food supply could cause us problems we need to go to the research and evaluate it skeptically.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on April 06, 2011
at 01:54 PM

Even if you think GMO foods don't have health risks or that they don't affect you personally, we should all be very wary of them. Monsanto in particular has engineered some of their seeds so that farmers cannot save seed from this season to plant next season because it will not germinate - they have to buy new from the company every year. Stop and imagine the consequences if (or WHEN) this variant gets cross-pollinated with non-GMO varieties in your neighbor's field and now HIS crop won't germinate next year either. Just because I don't eat grain doesn't mean this isn't a serious disaster.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on April 06, 2011
at 12:39 PM

see added link and corresponding studies for your "evidence"

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1b52cbf14cfae77395838138c3903e31

on December 28, 2010
at 04:36 PM

Wjones, I have written on this topic extensively. There is definitely evidence of GMO contributing to human detriment both research based and anecdotal. Watch the video in the following link. It is great information:

http://towncenterwellness.com/announcements/genetically-modified-foods/

It has also been postulated that genetic modification of wheat has increased the prevelance of celiac disease in the general population:

http://towncenterwellness.com/blog-posts/genetic-modification-of-wheat-responsible-for-increase-in-gluten-sensitivity/

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:52 PM

I think you need to look up what genetic modification means. The study you link too looked at wheat varieties produced with conventional breeding methods. There is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:45 PM

Do you understand what genetic modification means? Also there not is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:26 PM

I will definitely check out the links. Thanks!

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 28, 2010
at 06:50 PM

I think you need to look up what genetic modification means. The study you link too looked at wheat varieties produced with conventional breeding methods. There not is not yet any genetically modified wheat in commercial production.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 03, 2011
at 06:53 AM

Haha Dr. Osborne went paleo, awesome. Good for you Doc. = )

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on April 07, 2011
at 06:59 PM

The links don't address the whole evidence thing. I agree with many of the sentiments but it's all emotional.

1
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 26, 2011
at 02:45 PM

Totally amazing news: Obama appoints Monsanto's vice president Michael Taylor as senior adviser to the commissioner at the FDA

http://truehealthistruewealth.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-appoints-monsanto-vice-president.html

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 26, 2011
at 03:22 PM

Not surprising. Watched a documentary "The Future of Food" (on Netflix) that deals with this very issue. It's a revolving door in Washington. One Monsanto suit went back and forth between Monsanto and the EPA 3 times!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:30 PM

I missed this thread! Aegis is so with it!!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:32 PM

maj -- The US govt is so infiltrated with corporate profiteering. GMO alfalfa!!! F*ck MonSatan, hate them. They are killing our unborn children.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:37 PM

Matt -- That movie should be required watching like Food inc and King Corn and Fathead! The reasearcher is from my alma mater College of Natural Resources at UCB.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 26, 2011
at 11:40 PM

Good citations here from 2000 over a decade ago of these greedy shenanigans and public deceptions: 'GMO paradise on Earth or descent into Hell' http://home.clara.net/heureka/gaia/genetics.htm

1
1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

on January 16, 2011
at 12:20 AM

A few years back,when I first realized I was having problems with corn and wheat, I did some research on when the first GMO corn was grown in the US(1997 is the given date).Soybeans were 1996.This coincided almost perfectly with when I began to have severe joint pain issues,mood swings,random vomiting.They claim there is no GM wheat on the market yet,but I don't buy it.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on January 16, 2011
at 02:38 AM

not sure our wheat is technically GM, but its so fricken inbred, mutant selected high gluten dwarf garbage, that it might as well be GMO. kinda like Chihuahua's... worthless.

1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

(1600)

on January 16, 2011
at 09:54 PM

I just spent an evening having someone's chihuahua sitting in my lap,staring at me.You are right,it's about as painful as being glutened.

1
5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:29 PM

I avoid it where I can, but it's not always labelled in the US. Is it necessarily bad for humans? I don't know, but I think it is wise to be cautious. A lot of it doesn't directly affect a paleo diet though. Most of it seems to be targetted toward agriculture (grains and the like).

I think there's a sliding scale. For example, on the low end, a lot of foods we've gotten over the years have been crossbred/crosspollinated/etc. by humans. It could be considered genetic manipulation, but it's not taking genes from animals and putting them in plants bad.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:32 PM

Breeding and pollination happen in nature, pesticides from ecoli not so much

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:31 PM

Any feedlot meat is likely GMO and therefore affects us, unless you eat purely pastured natural and wild animals

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 28, 2010
at 04:38 PM

im totally ok with cross pollination. ancient methods didnt splice ecoli and bacteria to produce pesticides.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on December 27, 2010
at 08:37 PM

I agree on the feedlot meat (that's why I said directly vs indirectly). :) In re. breeding/pollination, humans have been artificially crosspollinating different plants for years to get better performing plants or more resistant plants, etc.

0
667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on December 28, 2010
at 12:05 AM

i completely avoid GMO all the time. I was doing this before stopping grains, coming from a WAP background. Also, i spent five years in Japan where the issue of GMO regarding growing grain and particularly rice is loud. Regarding soy there, too. In fact, non-GMO labeling on miso, natto, etc is really loud and proud. A lot of my european friends are generally more aware and wary of GMO. I think its an issue that is not heard enough here in the US, even in nutritionally-aware circles like ours here.

ps: Carl Lanore's radio show touches on GMO quite a bit.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 03, 2011
at 06:54 AM

Exactly, the USA needs to be more aware!

0
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 27, 2010
at 09:58 PM

here in europe, their is a good anti gmo lobby. still good free spaces for gmo free things. they try to bring it in silently.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on December 27, 2010
at 10:30 PM

Yeah, they'll keep trying to sneak it in in Europe, so you need to stay vigilant.

F53a74de3f8df19a114c5ac702af2b12

(826)

on December 28, 2010
at 05:35 PM

Evidently there are wikileaks cables that show Spain and the US conspiring to retaliate on the European countries that resist GMO. Hopefully that knowledge will keep most of your countries resistant to the gmo lobby.

461312f31b933638202e0308ab4011b4

(258)

on January 16, 2011
at 12:56 AM

yes, i just did a post about this. i'm wondering if food in Europe (or the UK, where I am) will be labeled as GMO or if it will be slipped under the rug?

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