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Acceptable Organ Meat Substitutes

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 22, 2011 at 6:42 AM

So let's say you just can't stomach organ meats, even though you have really, really tried. Are there any good substitutes out there, like say foods that will provide you the same nutrients or supplements that you can take that will have the same effect?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 23, 2011
at 11:33 AM

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/(ISSN)1097-0010 you can find many factors that will alter the foods nutritional content here.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on July 23, 2011
at 11:02 AM

i grill or bake my seafood. Oysters are raw for me to preserve their omega 3 content. Seafood that is frozen loses its omega three content over time. Longer it is frozen the more the DHA degrades.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on July 22, 2011
at 08:17 PM

But not gram for gram; shellfish is not very caloric

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:12 PM

I have some that I haven't opened yet. I haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on July 22, 2011
at 04:43 PM

I don't enjoy it but I can stand it. I put it on pork rinds rather than ruining something good with it.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on July 22, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Huh. According to the package, Uni-liver contains a good deal of vitamins A, C, D, K and E; the entire B-complex, vitamin C, iron, copper, zinc, chromium, selenium, cobalt, molybdenum, magnesium, manganese, potassium, phosphorus and calcium. So are the vitamins no good in the absence of fat?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on July 22, 2011
at 03:50 PM

Does this even answer the question?

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 03:17 PM

@kim-Powered liver doesn't have much except protein. CLO by itself is good because of the vitamin A & D. I think the nutrient most lacking in our diets found in liver is Vitamin A.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on July 22, 2011
at 03:07 PM

If someone posts a question involving an illness/serious condition, I would never make light of it and would do my best to be thoughtful with a response. But for other topics, if there is ANY way of perverting it, game on. Having a tight sphincter is NOT paleo!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on July 22, 2011
at 02:54 PM

LOL GW! I have to admit, I have a mind of a 12 year old boy most of the time.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on July 22, 2011
at 02:43 PM

So maybe I'm not so bad in that when I saw a post asking "why is my jaw cracking" and had a similar reaction.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on July 22, 2011
at 02:41 PM

Dirty girl. I like it!

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on July 22, 2011
at 02:31 PM

I've wondered about that. I regularly take Uni-liver tablets, but since they're defatted, I worry that they may not be a sufficient replacement for real liver. I also take fermented CLO, though, so maybe the synergy of the two together are better than nothing? Maybe??

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on July 22, 2011
at 02:28 PM

+1. I agree....

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on July 22, 2011
at 02:25 PM

My goodness! Am I the only one with a dirty mind today? I had some very different ideas for answers! :)

11dff0119e8ca2babb4acf40a5ef6ac4

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on July 22, 2011
at 02:11 PM

It may be a source of cadmium, but it doesn't seem to matter. We don't absorb more of it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8619241

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on July 22, 2011
at 01:38 PM

@Kamal: There is evidence from a single study that steaming salmon can produce more oxidised cholesterol than frying, probably due to the longer cooking time. Omega-3,6 content or ratio was not altered. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15291510

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

@Kamal: There is evidence that steaming salmon can produce more oxidised cholesterol than frying, probably due to the longer cooking time. Omega-3,6 content or ratio was not altered. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15291510

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

also highest source of Cadmium...

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

Do you have a source?

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:35 PM

I doubt the powered organs do much in terms of essential nutrients.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on July 22, 2011
at 01:33 PM

@Kamal: This has clearly been proven to be true in the Imaginary Journal of Quiltology Research.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on July 22, 2011
at 01:13 PM

Do elaborate on steaming and PUFA putrifaction. I tried looking this up once to no avail, so any sources would be much appreciated.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:44 AM

I'll check into those. I have no problem with swallowing capsules. Definitely much easier than choking down liver, which borderline makes me want to gag.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:43 AM

Good question? Are baked and grilled okay? I don't really do any steaming anyway so I'm safe on that account.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:42 AM

So what would be good to make up the deficit? I would be cool with eating a couple of different things to get the total nutrient value.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on July 22, 2011
at 11:36 AM

Well that is awesome to know because I have been throwing down on some oyster shooters lately! Definitely a perk of living in Maryland. Glad to see you on here too; thanks for all your great work! :)

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on July 22, 2011
at 11:28 AM

No vitamin A though and pretty sub par in the b vitamin department compared to liver

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on July 22, 2011
at 11:21 AM

How do you cook your salmon?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 11:12 AM

hi denis, nice to see you active on paleohacks.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 22, 2011
at 08:37 AM

I don't know if it would be as effective as eating organ meats but I used to take something called Simplex F, which seemed to have a bit of every organ, it might be just for girls though, I think I remember it saying ovary on the ingredient list. I know I've seen other brands with an organ sampling, usually claiming to be "synergistically blended" for adrenal or thyroid support. I take one for thyroid sometimes.

There are also liver pills you can take. Most I've seen are from grassfed cows in Argentina, they're cheap too as far as supplements go. You can also make your own capsules of any organ meat you think you're lacking, just slice it thin, dry it out in the oven, grind it up, and pack it into capsules. Tastebuds completely bypassed.

If you are trying to get the vitamin D and A I think you could get that from grassfed butter and cod liver oil.

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:35 PM

I doubt the powered organs do much in terms of essential nutrients.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on July 22, 2011
at 02:31 PM

I've wondered about that. I regularly take Uni-liver tablets, but since they're defatted, I worry that they may not be a sufficient replacement for real liver. I also take fermented CLO, though, so maybe the synergy of the two together are better than nothing? Maybe??

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 03:17 PM

@kim-Powered liver doesn't have much except protein. CLO by itself is good because of the vitamin A & D. I think the nutrient most lacking in our diets found in liver is Vitamin A.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:44 AM

I'll check into those. I have no problem with swallowing capsules. Definitely much easier than choking down liver, which borderline makes me want to gag.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on July 22, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Huh. According to the package, Uni-liver contains a good deal of vitamins A, C, D, K and E; the entire B-complex, vitamin C, iron, copper, zinc, chromium, selenium, cobalt, molybdenum, magnesium, manganese, potassium, phosphorus and calcium. So are the vitamins no good in the absence of fat?

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20a303dc36ea98aa5d1e4989efa3fcd1

on July 22, 2011
at 10:05 AM

Shellfish. They're nutritionally flabbergasting. Calorie for calorie, oysters are pretty comparable to liver -- super high in iron, B12, copper, zinc, selenium, vitamin D, etc. Mussels aren't too shabby either.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:12 AM

hi denis, nice to see you active on paleohacks.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:42 AM

So what would be good to make up the deficit? I would be cool with eating a couple of different things to get the total nutrient value.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:28 AM

No vitamin A though and pretty sub par in the b vitamin department compared to liver

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

also highest source of Cadmium...

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:36 AM

Well that is awesome to know because I have been throwing down on some oyster shooters lately! Definitely a perk of living in Maryland. Glad to see you on here too; thanks for all your great work! :)

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on July 22, 2011
at 08:17 PM

But not gram for gram; shellfish is not very caloric

11dff0119e8ca2babb4acf40a5ef6ac4

(233)

on July 22, 2011
at 02:11 PM

It may be a source of cadmium, but it doesn't seem to matter. We don't absorb more of it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8619241

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on July 22, 2011
at 02:22 PM

Eggs are comparable to organs in some ways. They have significant A, D, choline, B12, iron, selenium, zinc, etc.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on July 22, 2011
at 02:28 PM

+1. I agree....

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on July 22, 2011
at 03:48 PM

have you tried braunschweiger? It's made from liver, but many people who say they don't like liver enjoy it.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:12 PM

I have some that I haven't opened yet. I haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on July 22, 2011
at 04:43 PM

I don't enjoy it but I can stand it. I put it on pork rinds rather than ruining something good with it.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:33 AM

Well the main thing you want from liver is vitamin A, so take a 10kiu retinol supplement daily and you got that covered.

For the b vitamins/copper eat some tubers/fruit.

If you feel liver has some special property you could get powdered liver which is supposedly very rich in Cytochrome p450. Its pretty easy to down in milk/water or with some food.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 22, 2011
at 10:33 AM

How you cook organ meats and seafood is even more important. You can nutritionally destroy salmon by steaming it because it allows for PUFA putrifaction to increase the six to three ratio of the fish. Seems counterintuitive until you understand the biochemistry of cooking.

Samething holds true of liver and oysters.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:33 PM

@Kamal: This has clearly been proven to be true in the Imaginary Journal of Quiltology Research.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:21 AM

How do you cook your salmon?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:38 PM

@Kamal: There is evidence from a single study that steaming salmon can produce more oxidised cholesterol than frying, probably due to the longer cooking time. Omega-3,6 content or ratio was not altered. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15291510

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:13 PM

Do elaborate on steaming and PUFA putrifaction. I tried looking this up once to no avail, so any sources would be much appreciated.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

(3909)

on July 22, 2011
at 11:43 AM

Good question? Are baked and grilled okay? I don't really do any steaming anyway so I'm safe on that account.

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

Do you have a source?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 23, 2011
at 11:33 AM

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/(ISSN)1097-0010 you can find many factors that will alter the foods nutritional content here.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on July 22, 2011
at 01:37 PM

@Kamal: There is evidence that steaming salmon can produce more oxidised cholesterol than frying, probably due to the longer cooking time. Omega-3,6 content or ratio was not altered. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15291510

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 23, 2011
at 11:02 AM

i grill or bake my seafood. Oysters are raw for me to preserve their omega 3 content. Seafood that is frozen loses its omega three content over time. Longer it is frozen the more the DHA degrades.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on July 22, 2011
at 03:50 PM

Does this even answer the question?

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