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How many of you DON'T focus on your Omega-3 to Omega-6 balance?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 24, 2012 at 3:28 AM

To me, this is just another one of those things that might be useful to keep in the far far back of your mind, but if you make it one of your health goals, it's going to drive you nuts (which have a lot of omega 6s btw.) Being on an autoimmune protocol has taught me 2 things, both of which you're free to disagree with:

  1. Purchasing organic PRODUCE is more important than organic meat.

  2. I consume an O3:O6 ratio that many Paleo followers would condemn as pro-inflammatory. I've been consuming this O3:O6 ratio for about a year now with no noticeable negative health effects. I imagine my ratio is still much lower than all SAD eaters.

A ratio of 1:1 would be ideal if we lived in a perfect world. But we don't so 1:4 is reasonable. Most SAD eaters get anywhere from 1:10-1:20+. My ratio was probably 1:6 to 1:8 last time I bothered to calculate it (months ago.)

I eat significant amounts of omega-6s in the form of MUFAs mainly from lard and olive oil. I consume these almost daily. Not all of the meat I eat is organic or grass-fed, but I don't purchase obvious CAFO meat. Everything I get is from the butcher, who definitely gets decent quality stuff. I imagine my meat is higher in omega-6s than the stuff in Whole Foods. I consume well-prepared grains regularly and nuts once in a while, which are also not exactly beneficial towards a 1:1 ratio. I don't go out of my way to consume more fish than I crave for the O3s. I enjoy fish, but I'm not going to be eating it daily. Sometimes I don't even eat it once a week. I wish I could eat more fermented fish, but in order for that to happen I'd need to find extremely fresh fish that hasn't been frozen which isn't common where I live.

How many of you make the o3:o6 a focal point of your diet? Do you guys go out of your way to improve the ratio? Have you noticed any difference in a ratio of 1:2, 1:4, 1:6, etc? I haven't. I feel wonderful eating my current omega ratio and all of the inflammatory issues I had at one point are still gone (swollen hot earlobes, swollen tongue and breakouts.)

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on August 02, 2012
at 12:15 PM

No, I just like to be cognizant of my PUFA intake as a whole.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on August 02, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Is 3 grams of unoxidized omega-6 from an avocado significantly detrimental to human health?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on August 02, 2012
at 02:00 AM

@JayJay, That's not a surprise, cows simply don't have significant omega-3 - grass-fed or not.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:40 PM

+1 that's good advice Monte. +1. Lots of well-respected labs test this, not just LEF. My nutritionist uses a Genova Test called ONE and said that most everyone is coming back with WAY HIGH Omega 3s! This is from taking fish oil caps.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:30 PM

Because following A1C is one of the best way to track your inflammation.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:28 PM

Same! But I have some Cod liver every day.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:26 PM

and a lot of respectable labs test this, not just LEF (who I happen to like a lot)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:25 PM

+1 for people who can afford it - its good advice. If often feels like thhq "polices" people and has downvoted me for recommending products or tests too. Its good advice Monte.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:05 AM

Spoiler: "There were no significant differences in fatty acid data between groups at baseline. In response to the intervention, EPA, DPA, DHA, LC n-3 PUFA and total n-3 PUFA were significantly increased (P,0·05) and the n-6:n-3 ratio was significantly decreased (P,0·001) within the group that consumed meat from grass-fed animals..."

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Kinda what I was getting at Domer. Interesting study here on the consumption of red meat from grass fed animals effect on O3 levels in humans http://cdn.marksdailyapple.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/McAfeeGrassfedbeefbettern3thanconventionalbeefBJN2011-2.pdf

9d741bcbe702044635f2ce3078043054

(1435)

on July 24, 2012
at 08:15 PM

I imagine the ratio in the blood would be like a snapshot of what had been recently eaten. We really care about what PUFAs make up our cell membranes. I don't think that would be easy to test.

9d741bcbe702044635f2ce3078043054

(1435)

on July 24, 2012
at 08:13 PM

I personally don't think we need a particular amount of O-3. Rather, it's the ratio that's important. If you don't consume much O-6, you don't need as much O-3. As homo species were evolving, only a small fraction would have lived where seafood would constitute a large part of their diet. At the same time, they would not have been eating industrial seed oils.

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(3213)

on July 24, 2012
at 08:01 PM

I haven't had that tested, why do you specifically asked about Hemoglobin?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:42 PM

ben, are you originally from the Champaign area? You must be to be so level headed. :P

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Very sound post. 1:1 ain't going to happen unless artificially produced with supplements. And there is just nothing wrong with a much highs ratio like 5:1 or even higher. If one is eatig whole foods, prepared at home, with some kind of general healthy orientation higher levels of omega six in the food or blood is not going to be an issue. This is one of those perfection is the enemy of good or however that saying goes. It's a detail. Tinkering around the edges Cook you and your family's food, by ingredients rather than products, enjoy your meals, don't eat too much food, be active, smile a lot

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:01 PM

For posting what looks like a commercial.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:21 PM

Eating grass-fed beef is a great idea, but not for omega-3s.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:21 PM

Many folks tend to think they're ok with regards to omega-3s simply because they consume grass-fed beef. Three problems with that logic: 1) cows are so low in PUFA as to be essentially insignificant sources of PUFA. 2) omega-3 is just a faction of that small PUFA in beef, even less significant. 3) the omega-3 fatty acid in beef is generally just run-of-the-mill ALA (not that that's a bad thing!) not the highly-sought after EPA/DHA.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:16 PM

Except they really are so ubiquitous as to be impossible to become deficient in. I'm sure if you ate an extremely limited diet of a handful of foods you could develop a deficiency, but most people don't eat such a diet.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Huh? Well, if your referring to me I also eat eggs and sushi. My answer was pointing that I am more concerned with my meat than my veggies. I can live without the veggies. But, just for arguments sake are you sure on the deficiency statement?

6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

(2177)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:47 PM

Commission? I wish. Why was I donwvoted? LOL.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Anti-inflammatory is not a concrete benefit unless you can document it. How much did it change your A1C?

Medium avatar

(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:38 PM

$175!!!!! I don't pay that much for a full lab battery of blood tests. What's your commision?

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:37 PM

How can you measure it from blood? Surely you would have to make several tissue biopsies all over the body to arrive accurate estimate.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:35 PM

That's not a concrete benefit @alvaro. Not unless you can document the response, such as a reduction in your A1C.

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(3213)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:17 PM

Anti-inflamatory

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:05 PM

My O3 to O6 ratio would be considered way out of whack to a lot of Paleo-ers. I have a high O6 intake, and the moment my O3 gets too high, I break out, have stomach issues, etc. I just make sure to not eat fish, etc too often, but otherwise, don't pay attention.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on July 24, 2012
at 02:26 PM

There's definitely a decent sized dose of n-6 in avocados. Per: http://www.avocadosource.com/journals/specialindustryreports/requejolc1999.pdf "Concentrations of linoleic acid (18:2) remained constant at 11% until around January when it slowly increased to 15% in April." So 10 - 15% of say ~35g fat per avocado?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Contrary to popular belief, cows aren't a great source of omega-3s, or really PUFAs at all. If you're relying on beef for your omega-3s, you're deficient.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 24, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Avocado fat is mostly MUFA so no worries there.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:53 PM

I like a tasty answer over an overthought one.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:52 PM

+1 for doing something usefully paleo.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:43 PM

Adding on to Jan's comment, a lot of health-adept people seem to completely forget that Omega-6s are ESSENTIAL fatty acids. They do serve their purpose.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:37 PM

MUFA is not Omega-6? Oh my stars! Who knew? Time to watch Plan 9 from Outer Space. And add this to the top ten most ridiculous things people say about paleo.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:31 PM

Name one concrete benefit from getting the hang of it.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on July 24, 2012
at 05:52 AM

I dont eat pork or chicken and never have supplement with omega3s. I would do it only for treating some illness. But i dont have any. I would use Krill oil only.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:48 AM

CO and macadamias are the exception. EVOO is still a significant source of O6s. Surely you agree?

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:39 AM

Macadamias are virtually all MUFA + a little sugars, and they dont have much o-6. I guess thats sort of an exception, but not all MUFA foods are that high in o-6.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 04:07 AM

Olive oil is only about 10-15% Omega-6, and lard is 6-10% Omega-6

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:40 AM

You're right, but high MUFA foods will have a high O6 content as well.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 03:35 AM

MUFA is not Omega-6, BTW.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:38 AM

I don't follow mine, or care. That said I still care more that my meat be clean and grass fed cow than what my veggies are. I eat more meat.

I just assume my ratios are good since I eat paleo.

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:52 PM

+1 for doing something usefully paleo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:21 PM

Many folks tend to think they're ok with regards to omega-3s simply because they consume grass-fed beef. Three problems with that logic: 1) cows are so low in PUFA as to be essentially insignificant sources of PUFA. 2) omega-3 is just a faction of that small PUFA in beef, even less significant. 3) the omega-3 fatty acid in beef is generally just run-of-the-mill ALA (not that that's a bad thing!) not the highly-sought after EPA/DHA.

9d741bcbe702044635f2ce3078043054

(1435)

on July 24, 2012
at 08:13 PM

I personally don't think we need a particular amount of O-3. Rather, it's the ratio that's important. If you don't consume much O-6, you don't need as much O-3. As homo species were evolving, only a small fraction would have lived where seafood would constitute a large part of their diet. At the same time, they would not have been eating industrial seed oils.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:21 PM

Eating grass-fed beef is a great idea, but not for omega-3s.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Contrary to popular belief, cows aren't a great source of omega-3s, or really PUFAs at all. If you're relying on beef for your omega-3s, you're deficient.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Huh? Well, if your referring to me I also eat eggs and sushi. My answer was pointing that I am more concerned with my meat than my veggies. I can live without the veggies. But, just for arguments sake are you sure on the deficiency statement?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Kinda what I was getting at Domer. Interesting study here on the consumption of red meat from grass fed animals effect on O3 levels in humans http://cdn.marksdailyapple.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/McAfeeGrassfedbeefbettern3thanconventionalbeefBJN2011-2.pdf

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:05 AM

Spoiler: "There were no significant differences in fatty acid data between groups at baseline. In response to the intervention, EPA, DPA, DHA, LC n-3 PUFA and total n-3 PUFA were significantly increased (P,0·05) and the n-6:n-3 ratio was significantly decreased (P,0·001) within the group that consumed meat from grass-fed animals..."

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on August 02, 2012
at 02:00 AM

@JayJay, That's not a surprise, cows simply don't have significant omega-3 - grass-fed or not.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 01:27 PM

It's all theory that paleolithic peoples had good omega-6:3 ratios. Except for seafood, animals are, for the most part, omega-6 rich. Plants are also generally omega-6 rich. I cannot understand how a very low (1:1) omega ratio was concluded as paleolithic. Do your damnedest to cut out seed oils and eat whole foods, a ratio of 5:1 is reasonable. Grass-fed beef is not an omega-3 rich food, contrary to popular belief. And what's the likelihood that paleolithic peoples only ate ruminants and seafood? Not pork, not fowl (you know, those omega-6 rich foods)?

I achieved a nearly 1:1 ratio with a hefty supplementation schedule. But now, having giving it some thought, think a ratio of less than 10:1 is perfectly fine without supplementation.

I take issue with the arbitrary %ages on PUFA calories as well. If you are to believe that paleolithic peoples obtained a majority of their calories from animal product, then PUFA limits also seem dubious. The only way to justify such low PUFA numbers would be to conclude that paleolithic peoples were primarily fueled by starches.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:42 PM

ben, are you originally from the Champaign area? You must be to be so level headed. :P

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Very sound post. 1:1 ain't going to happen unless artificially produced with supplements. And there is just nothing wrong with a much highs ratio like 5:1 or even higher. If one is eatig whole foods, prepared at home, with some kind of general healthy orientation higher levels of omega six in the food or blood is not going to be an issue. This is one of those perfection is the enemy of good or however that saying goes. It's a detail. Tinkering around the edges Cook you and your family's food, by ingredients rather than products, enjoy your meals, don't eat too much food, be active, smile a lot

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0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:40 AM

I certainly don't focus on it, and I've stopped supplementing it as well.

For n-3s: I do go out of my way to eat half a pound of wild caught salmon a week, and it isn't uncommon for me to eat a couple cans of sardines, tuna, or salmon throughout the week.

On the n-6 side of things: I eat a pound of bacon a week, and my meat is not grass-fed - but it is fresh and local from a butcher I trust; I've never (even when I was buying frozen grass-fed meat) had meat of this quality, despite the fact that it isn't strictly pastured. I also eat an avocado a day.

I cook with goat butter and coconut oil, I do not eat nuts on any regular basis, and I try to opt for grilled meats when I eat out (don't always succeed.)

Overall, yeah, I've come to the same conclusion. My inflammation is more controlled than it has ever been before, and I generally feel great. Micro-managing leads me down detrimental roads; I make adjustments when my body tells me I need to.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 24, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Avocado fat is mostly MUFA so no worries there.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:53 PM

I like a tasty answer over an overthought one.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on July 24, 2012
at 02:26 PM

There's definitely a decent sized dose of n-6 in avocados. Per: http://www.avocadosource.com/journals/specialindustryreports/requejolc1999.pdf "Concentrations of linoleic acid (18:2) remained constant at 11% until around January when it slowly increased to 15% in April." So 10 - 15% of say ~35g fat per avocado?

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on August 02, 2012
at 12:15 PM

No, I just like to be cognizant of my PUFA intake as a whole.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on August 02, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Is 3 grams of unoxidized omega-6 from an avocado significantly detrimental to human health?

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 12:26 PM

There are only so many hours in a day.

What with all the hunting and gathering, meat preservation and preparation, berry picking and reading there's no time left for another distraction.

Tweaking O3/O6 sounds less rewarding than eating fresh oysters. Or reading Paleohacks.

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Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

on July 24, 2012
at 11:17 AM

My focusing consists of avoiding soy/corn/safflower oil and having a spoon of cod liver oil a few times a week.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:28 PM

Same! But I have some Cod liver every day.

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on July 24, 2012
at 04:44 AM

If I don't eat seafood that day, I will supplement with 1000 mg o3.

I can't always afford grass-fed meat, but I will always get grass-fed ground beef and liver. Ribeyes, NY strip, skirt, etc. are usually not grass-fed. The lamb I buy is always New Zealand grass-fed.

I rarely eat poultry. I don't even want to eat poultry. But when I do, I make sure it's free-range.

My eggs are always cage-free, omega-3, soy-free.

My bacon/pork is always organic.

I only use olive oil for cold uses. I cook everything in either organic unrefined coconut oil or grass-fed butter/ghee.

*Edit: I eat raw macadamia nuts and almonds a few times a week.

At the end of the day, it's a hassle keeping track of my o3:o6 ratio, but I predict it's a little skewed on the o6 side. It is enough for me to know that with Paleo, it's much better than someone on SAD.

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6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

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on July 24, 2012
at 03:25 PM

I eat a pound of seafood everyday. I definitely don't worry about my ratios...

But why wonder at all. Get tested. It's easy.

http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/ItemLCOMEGA/Omega-Score-Blood-Test.html

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(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:38 PM

$175!!!!! I don't pay that much for a full lab battery of blood tests. What's your commision?

9d741bcbe702044635f2ce3078043054

(1435)

on July 24, 2012
at 08:15 PM

I imagine the ratio in the blood would be like a snapshot of what had been recently eaten. We really care about what PUFAs make up our cell membranes. I don't think that would be easy to test.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:01 PM

For posting what looks like a commercial.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:37 PM

How can you measure it from blood? Surely you would have to make several tissue biopsies all over the body to arrive accurate estimate.

6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

(2177)

on July 24, 2012
at 03:47 PM

Commission? I wish. Why was I donwvoted? LOL.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:26 PM

and a lot of respectable labs test this, not just LEF (who I happen to like a lot)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:25 PM

+1 for people who can afford it - its good advice. If often feels like thhq "polices" people and has downvoted me for recommending products or tests too. Its good advice Monte.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 01, 2012
at 11:40 PM

+1 that's good advice Monte. +1. Lots of well-respected labs test this, not just LEF. My nutritionist uses a Genova Test called ONE and said that most everyone is coming back with WAY HIGH Omega 3s! This is from taking fish oil caps.

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E032bfc8626e3e4eca98c1d251e26b87

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on July 24, 2012
at 05:01 AM

As long as you avoid processed crap, you're ahead of the game. As for me, pastured everything... eggs, beef & bird. My one vice is nuts, so I do supplement a small amount of fish oil & FCLO. My gut feeling is that avoiding/minimizing N-6 is equally important as grain/added sugar avoidance, & perhaps even more so. I'm 53 and have zero issues with inflammation of any kind.

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0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on July 24, 2012
at 04:23 AM

I eat fish once or twice or week and don't do chicken or pork very often, so those kind of balance out. Most of the time it's grass-fed beef, butter, heavy cream, coconut oil, eggs twice a week, and hardly any nuts. My ratio was around 1:4 to 1:6 last time I checked.

I tried to eat just beef and fish for a month, but ended up craving chicken again, which is interesting because I had actually gotten really bored with it. A similar thing happens when I lay off the pork completely, so I have some bacon or ribs every now and then.

My guess is there must be some other good stuff in birds and pigs that my body needs as well.

It also makes me feel really awesome to gnaw meat right off the bone.

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04293f705870e1837b8670d3c1cd5f67

on August 01, 2012
at 11:30 PM

I am assuming that I have a good ratio. I don't think about it. I don't have any inflammation (that I know of), I stay away from wheat and other grains, and absolutely no vegetable oils. Unless I develop some problems, I have in refrigerator a couple of different Omega's (like borage oil, black currant seed oil, fish oil) and when I think about it, I will take dose.

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7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:10 PM

That sounds like a great diet and I think trying to control pufas is something you can do when you've got your diet all worked out. It's much more important to eat whole organic foods and get enough vitamins and minerals and improve digestion before we think about that stuff and your right it will drive you nuts. It is in the back of my mind but I try not to stress over it.

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44739854bd06eb5c32af5d33aa866864

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on July 24, 2012
at 02:32 PM

I was always under the impression that Organic Meat/Animal-Products were more important than produce... contaminants/toxins always seem increase as you move up the food chain (ex. mercury increase in krill vs salmon vs tuna vs swordfish).

Produce is contaminated by the pesticides/heavy metals sprayed on them and put into the soil, but it's limited to only the life of the plant. Animals eat the plants/produce that's sprayed with pesticides/etc and concentrate the toxins in their bodies (muscles, organs, fat) over their lifetime... On top of that, animals are also given steroids, antibiotics, growth hormones, etc. to increase yields with little if any regard to food quality. Seems to me that the positives of eating at least organic meat far outweigh eating some residual pesticides on produce. Getting grass-fed/pastured meats would be even better to increase nutrient density, and I believe on a per mass basis, meats/animal-products are the highest as far as nutrients-per-mass, helping to offset the increase in price.

That's just my reasoning, thought I'd share since I've struggled with the same question myself.

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0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

on July 24, 2012
at 12:40 PM

Being unemployed for two years now, I frankly can't afford to spend too much time worrying about my omega ratio right now. While I do eat mostly CAFO beef and turkey, occasionally chicken, bacon rarely, I do eat grass-fed when I can (yay for US Wellness pemmican bars), I save and cook with the lard from rendering my grass-fed marrow bones when I can get them, and I do eat the right fish here and there (mostly in the form of tinned sardines, mackerel and herring).

Like many, I could probably do better on the Omega ratios. But I can't stress about it right now.

Edited to add:

The time in my life when I went from employed to unemployed was precisely the time I moved to a radically different climate -- my move from California to Massachusetts was also the time I stopped eating grass-fed beef exclusively. New England hates me, though -- I live in swamp country, high humidity, sudden savage barometric pressure changes, allergic-to-mosquito-bite summers and colder winters. My inherited tendency to rheumatoid arthritis is flaring a little here and there, and I'm on antihistamines for the mosquito thing almost all summer long, so my personal data on inflammation as related to diet is currently very muddy. I'm sure the CAFO beef isn't helping me. But I'm not so sure eating grass-fed right now would entirely clear up the types of inflammation symptoms I sometimes have here.

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on July 24, 2012
at 06:11 AM

Once you get the hang of it, you don't need to focus

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on July 24, 2012
at 03:17 PM

Anti-inflamatory

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on July 24, 2012
at 08:01 PM

I haven't had that tested, why do you specifically asked about Hemoglobin?

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on July 24, 2012
at 03:35 PM

That's not a concrete benefit @alvaro. Not unless you can document the response, such as a reduction in your A1C.

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on July 24, 2012
at 12:31 PM

Name one concrete benefit from getting the hang of it.

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on July 24, 2012
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Anti-inflammatory is not a concrete benefit unless you can document it. How much did it change your A1C?

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on August 01, 2012
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Because following A1C is one of the best way to track your inflammation.

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I eat alot of Omega 3s (lately i have been eating alot of wild salmon heads, tons of different nutrients), so i sometimes make sure to get enough omega 6s too. I eat some extra eggs, avocados etc. But other than that i dont worry about it.

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on July 24, 2012
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Except they really are so ubiquitous as to be impossible to become deficient in. I'm sure if you ate an extremely limited diet of a handful of foods you could develop a deficiency, but most people don't eat such a diet.

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I dont eat pork or chicken and never have supplement with omega3s. I would do it only for treating some illness. But i dont have any. I would use Krill oil only.

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on July 24, 2012
at 12:43 PM

Adding on to Jan's comment, a lot of health-adept people seem to completely forget that Omega-6s are ESSENTIAL fatty acids. They do serve their purpose.

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