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Palm Oil Deforestation - Is it a Hoax?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Everyone and their brother is concerned about the deforestation scare with the Palm Oil. I was also concerned and decided to check it out a few months ago. I'm revisiting my information today, because I'm probably going to bite the bullet and buy some (Tropical Traditions has a gallon for like $24 through 12/30/12 - the reason I'm going to buy it today). I've been using coconut oil and ghee mainly in my diet to date and I've been plenty happy with it, but I like to try new things. Anyhoo, when I was researching the Palm Oil, I came across this article which calls it a hoax. Opinions? Has anyone else heard anything about this so-called 'hoax'?
http://www.kiarticle.info/environment/the-great-palm-oil-deforestation-hoax.html

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on April 22, 2014
at 02:59 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_and_environmental_impact_of_palm_oil#Environmental_issues Biggest hoax of this century? (Indonesia and Malaysia account for 80%+ of the global palm oil production, where the orangutan's have lost most of their native habitat.)

http://time.com/66972/orangutans-danger-indonesia/ (published 5 days ago.)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 29, 2012
at 04:28 PM

My point being that you're painting all palm oil producers with a broad brush. There's a problem with *some* palm oil producers, not all.

Bd614f091f0625dea86bad5791471f2d

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on December 28, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Maybe the Italians should try to get a handle on their tainted olive oil exports before they side with palm oil manufacturers. I suppose Mattias Klum and other journalists who expose this undustry just have a lot of time on their hands.

Bd614f091f0625dea86bad5791471f2d

(775)

on December 28, 2012
at 08:03 PM

I suppose that's a snarky remark, but I'll side with those who defend people over corporate interests any day. Look at all of the information and use your conscience as your guide.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 28, 2012
at 01:29 PM

It's a unique flavor for sure. I happen to like it.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 27, 2012
at 09:31 PM

I agree that Omni is just as ethical -- but their palm oil is SO assertive... To me it just over powered the meal. Maybe that's because it is less processed -- dunno, just not a good solution for me.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 27, 2012
at 09:02 PM

TT is sounds good, but is hella expensive. Omni is half the price and just as ethical/humane/responsible/sustainable.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 27, 2012
at 09:01 PM

There's obviously no bias/agenda in that second website...

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on December 28, 2012
at 01:17 PM

It's a clear, irrefutable and incontrovertible hoax!

Italian civil libertarian group, Libertiamo has blown the lid off the entire elaborate, cynical and vicious scheme masterminded by the Environmental Directorate of the European Commission (EC) to protect the EU???s own indigenous edible oilseed industries which are unable to compete against the hyper yielding palm oil in the open market! (Vide: http://disarmingthegreens.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Taxpayer-Funding-NGO-Collusion-and-Manufactured-Crises.pdf)

That by itself is already a blot on the good name of some of the prominent European countries which are signatories of the WTO treaty, but what really disappoints is that Libertiamo points out that the EC is fully aware that most of the anti-palm oil campaigns are based on false ???and manufactured evidence???!

The entire vile scheme is planned and executed by the EC???s green surrogates across regions to create the impression that the palm oil campaigns are unplanned, popular and spontaneous! A broad range of green NGO???s plus even zoos, girl scouts (or rather the adults behind the girl scouts) and politicians from across the globe are recruited to the cause.

The truly sad part is that the premises used for these campaigns, especially the spurious allegation that the saturated fat component of palm oil is bad for heart health had been debunked and disproved by tons of scientific studies which proved that palm oil is in fact heart friendly (Vide: Donald J. McNamara, PhD: ???Palm Oil and Heart Health: A case of Manipulated Perception and Misuse of Science??? 240S Vol 29 No. 3(s) Journal of the American College of Nutrition).

The issue of deforestation too flies in the face of facts for Malaysia, despite planting palm oil for more than a hundred years has still managed to retain 59.5 percent forest cover, certainly far better than New Zealand's 31.87 percent! (CIA World FactBook 2011) Further, the FAO has found that the rate of forest change in Malaysia declined from 0.66% in the years 2000-2005 to 0.42% in the years 2005-2010 (FAO Global Forest Resource Assessment 2010), certainly not the apocalyptic picture of massive deforestation that these EC surrogates and apologists attempt to paint.

There is a Latin maxim, "reductio ad absurdium" that applies to this sad and slow demonstration of human foibles and greed. The ugly specter of payola in this issue raises the very real possibility that the green group surrogates of the EC are either wusses or smug, disingenuous and frighteningly detached from the realities on the ground.

Smallholders, who account for more than 40% of global palm oil production, live in the real world, not in the rarified world of bloodless abstractions and lofty proclamations of intent on the one hand which serves only to conceal the true agenda ??? the desperate angling for funds and ugly protectionism that is at the heart of this debate!

Bd614f091f0625dea86bad5791471f2d

(775)

on December 28, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Maybe the Italians should try to get a handle on their tainted olive oil exports before they side with palm oil manufacturers. I suppose Mattias Klum and other journalists who expose this undustry just have a lot of time on their hands.

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F6742aa93409cdefe7be09aed1992d1d

on December 29, 2012
at 02:30 PM

Hi Liz,

Rather than rock like an out-of-time metronome to the beat of an irrational reflexive hostility towards all things palm oil, why don't you examine the facts?

The fact remains that palm oil is inherently the most sustainable of all oilseed crops. One hectare planted with palm oil yields 4-5 metric tons of edible oil. That's just an average. Best in class plantations are producing 8 metric tons per hectare and current R&D points to a staggering genetic potential of 20 metric tons per hectare! (see: http://www.simedarbyplantation.com/upload/palmoilfactsandfigures.pdf)

By comparison, soy, sunflower and rapeseed have reached their genetic limit and soy only produce a mere 0.37, sunflower a meagre 0.57 and rapeseed a laughable 0.69 metric tons per hectare!

Now you understand why the European Commission should fear palm oil so much as to take the low road and resort to subterfuge by funding these anti-palm oil campaigns using "manufactured" and false evidence! Don't rule out journalists being hoodwinked by these false evidence too!

Finally, just consider what would happen if palm oil plantations were to be converted to soy or sunflower (they could and quite easily too!). It would then be truly disastrous and an Armageddon of forest destruction!

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 27, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Is it a hoax? Well yes and no.

If palm forestation were to have continued at the rate we saw in the early 2000s, then it would certainly be a real concern.

However, things are getting better but we are approaching a tipping point. Demand is growing at a faster pace than sustainable farms. This is putting us back into the situation we were in the early 2000s.

The demand is not for the food consumable palm oil, rather for cosmetics and shampoos who are promoting, "organic", and "all natural". This is a good thing, but we need more transparency into the food chain, are these manufactures only using sustainable farms?

With respect to your point, Tropical Traditions is a great company and uses small scale sustainable farms, not corporate plantations. Therefore, if you purchase from Tropical traditions (or another manufacture who uses sustainable resources) you are NOT contributing to deforestation, and are actually fighting against deforestation with the most important weapon -- your wallet.

Tropical Traditions Virgin Palm Oil comes from West Africa, NOT South East Asia. Palm oil is native to the tropical areas of Africa, where it grows wild. It is a traditional oil used for more than 5000 years in African countries, where small-scale family farms flourish. When you purchase Tropical Traditions Virgin Palm Oil, you are supporting small scale family producers in Africa, and NOT large corporate plantations in South East Asia. Our Virgin Palm Oil is certified organic.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on December 27, 2012
at 09:31 PM

I agree that Omni is just as ethical -- but their palm oil is SO assertive... To me it just over powered the meal. Maybe that's because it is less processed -- dunno, just not a good solution for me.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on December 28, 2012
at 01:29 PM

It's a unique flavor for sure. I happen to like it.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on December 27, 2012
at 09:02 PM

TT is sounds good, but is hella expensive. Omni is half the price and just as ethical/humane/responsible/sustainable.

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Bd614f091f0625dea86bad5791471f2d

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on December 27, 2012
at 05:15 PM

No, it's not a hoax.

Check out the videos in this article: http://radcliff.hubpages.com/hub/Murder-Extortion-and-Breakfast-Cereal-How-the-Palm-Oil-Industry-Destroys-Lives-and-Ecosystems

I love TT, but we know that there are a number of products that come from West Africa that exploit people and endanger lives (look at chocolate and diamonds). Palm oil seems to be one that we can add to that list: http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/76280

There are plenty of other fats to choose from that you can feel good about using.

Bd614f091f0625dea86bad5791471f2d

(775)

on December 28, 2012
at 08:03 PM

I suppose that's a snarky remark, but I'll side with those who defend people over corporate interests any day. Look at all of the information and use your conscience as your guide.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on December 27, 2012
at 09:01 PM

There's obviously no bias/agenda in that second website...

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on December 29, 2012
at 04:28 PM

My point being that you're painting all palm oil producers with a broad brush. There's a problem with *some* palm oil producers, not all.

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on April 22, 2014
at 05:54 AM

It's the biggest hoax of this century.

Finally, in 2014 UN's IPCC finding, scientists have identified and ranked livestock as the biggest GHG emitter/culprit from agriculture sector (24%). While energy production sector (electricity & heating) is the worst culprit (25%).

There were overall decrease in CO2 net emission in the tropical regions, because oil palm crops are big leafy trees and most efficient in converting CO2 into oxygen. Oil palm plantations are reported to sequester as much as 15 metric tonnes of carbon per hectare per year. Oil palm plantations in degraded lands are the world's best example for maximum yield/production per hectare.

Statistics do not lie: fact is palm oil represents about 38% of the world's supply of edible oil, but it's grown on only 5% of all the lands dedicated to oilseed crops globally, way far ahead of soy, corn, canola, etc.

All 'save orangutan' websites asking for donation are there, to fleece money from gullible public with good conscience.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

(995)

on April 22, 2014
at 02:59 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_and_environmental_impact_of_palm_oil#Environmental_issues Biggest hoax of this century? (Indonesia and Malaysia account for 80%+ of the global palm oil production, where the orangutan's have lost most of their native habitat.)

http://time.com/66972/orangutans-danger-indonesia/ (published 5 days ago.)

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on December 28, 2012
at 12:26 PM

The Palm Oil from Indonesia is the main one you need to avoid. It is the one that is causing Orangutan extinction.

http://www.orangutan.org.au/palm-oil

Nestle (food products) is one of the main culprits.

Almost all farming causes deforestation.

The world needs to go back to growing your own food as much as possible. Trading/purchasing from small companies/co-ops, abstaining from purchasing from he multinational brands.

Hard to do in this ever global society :(

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