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Experimenting with Walnut Oil and Pasta?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 01, 2011 at 4:35 PM

I pretty much stick with 90/10 for a diet, but I suppose this could fall under the "10".

I got a gift of walnut oil (i know, weird gift right?) but they had heard that I don't use vegetable oil anymore, so they thought this would be a good one for me.

Here's the deal though... I know walnut oil has pretty high 06, but based on the fact that nobody could answer my question (even after a bounty offer) about antioxidants in nuts affecting oxidiation, I figure I will take that as a sign that nuts, even those high in poly, are fine as a result. The only buummer about this one is that it says "roasted" on the front, which is very bizarre, since it also says "cold pressed". What is the point of cold pressed if it is roasted anyway? That's really interesting that they would do that. Anyway, I will just use this whole bottle and then look into a non-roasted version next.

Also, I've been reading that the Italians gorge on Pasta all the time, and they have a low CVD and heart attack rate. Plus my friend visited Italy for 3 weeks and ate pasta and bread like a maniac and said everybody over there was ok.

I made some pasta that I got from Whole foods (so I'm sure it's better than pasta at like Safeway or another regular major grocery chain). I just cooked the pasta in the walnut oil it was very good. I'll post some pics later when I get home but I highly recommend giving it a try. It may be another regular meal for us because of the delicious flavor (hey gotta live a little right?)

Does anyone else eat walnut oil regularly? And is pasta ok since it's mostly starchy even though, technically, it's made from grains?

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 09:46 PM

lol familygrok. "hoping"... you thought I was a goner. "we dun lawst him". haha.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Stabby, I'm glad you mention that. I crafted this post very carefully to walk the line of being possibly real, as someone could easily post a question like this. I wanted to mimik what a newbie to Paleo might ask, just so that some of you could throw down some good answers, like with the Italians being "ok", and Whole Foods Pasta being any better than Safeway pasta. And "I'll just finish this whole bottle" haha. Yes, I crack myself up. Glad you all enjoyed.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on April 01, 2011
at 06:21 PM

Stephan killed the joke with posting "april fools" on the blog. I would definitely reread "why he decided to go raw" a few times before getting it :D

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on April 01, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Mwahaha, knew it. Although this thread still serves as a didactic device for newbies. While reasoning like that is almost certainly a joke on paleohacks, it passes for sound and valid in some other places.

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:55 PM

I was hoping the same, Melissa.

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:51 PM

is this an april fools thing?

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:29 PM

But again, every single meal in America is wheat, vegetable oils and processed meats and cheese with a billion preservatives and junk. At least Italy is fairly nourished and avoiding massive omega 6, trans fats, excessive sugar and whatnot. I don't see the SID producing centurions who stay vital the whole time as the norm. Sure they have some but I think we can do a little better. Robb Wolf mentioned Italy once, he says they have a super high standard of food quality. And it tends to catch up with them. So someone isn't dying in the first half of life. They're pudgy in the second.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:09 PM

yah i dunno. that's what my friend observed. she said almost every meal was pasta, and that most of the people she hung out with while she was there were very in shape and seemed healthy to her.

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:01 PM

It looks like it would make a nice massage oil.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 04:49 PM

i'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you are serious, but at any rate, that spahettieis thingy looks good but is that a cookie in there? that's a weird combo if so.

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on April 01, 2011
at 04:47 PM

Haha! I honestly didn't get that till I read lkco's response.

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84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on April 01, 2011
at 04:44 PM

"Also, I've been reading that the Italians gorge on Pasta all the time, and they have a low CVD and heart attack rate."

WOW, this spoke to me on a deep level. I mean, if the whole nation is healthy how can pasta be bad for us ? Also if your friend was OK after three weeks what can one pack of spaghtetti do ?

And as long pasta is from Whole foods I think we are safe here. A week back I would say "but DOC, DOC" but we musn't blindly emulate the past so this kind of experiments are in orders. I might even top you with some spaghettieis.

Cheers Jack !

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 04:49 PM

i'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you are serious, but at any rate, that spahettieis thingy looks good but is that a cookie in there? that's a weird combo if so.

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:33 PM

But again, every single meal in America is wheat, vegetable oils and processed meats and cheese with a billion preservatives and junk. At least Italy is fairly nourished and avoiding massive omega 6, trans fats, excessive sugar and whatnot. I don't see the SID producing centenarians who stay vital the whole time as the norm. Sure they have some but I think we can do a little better. Robb Wolf mentioned Italy once, he says they have a super high standard of food quality. And it tends to catch up with them. So someone isn't dying in the first half of life. They're pudgy in the second.

Other factors tie into health too. It is fallacious to observe X population as not completely and utterly dying and then take a particular element of their diet and proclaim that to be innocuous. We need a better metric for health than the average earthling.

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D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on April 01, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Pasta, even pasta from Whole Foods, has gluten in it unless you are specifically seeking out a gluten-free brand of pasta. So even though the starch itself won't get you down for too long, it's the other aspects of grains (phytates/antinutrients, gluten's ravaging of the intestinal wall, among other concerns) that make grain-based pasta a systemic threat.

If you really want noodles with walnut oil, you might try rice noodles made from white rice (so there's no hull remaining - such as in brown rice - to otherwise harm your system). However, this is a starchy cheat, so maybe best after a workout. Maybe also a nice large salmon fillet to counter all of the O-6 from your walnut oil?

And finally...just because Italians are consuming pasta and bread with reckless abandon doesn't mean it won't come back to bite them in the long run via diabetes, weight gained, etc. As we've heard: Tolerated is not optimal.

p.s. I love walnut oil integrated into a custard made of eggs, coconut milk, and banana.

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:54 PM

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on April 01, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Mwahaha, knew it. Although this thread still serves as a didactic device for newbies. While reasoning like that is almost certainly a joke on paleohacks, it passes for sound and valid in some other places.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on April 01, 2011
at 06:21 PM

Stephan killed the joke with posting "april fools" on the blog. I would definitely reread "why he decided to go raw" a few times before getting it :D

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on April 01, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Stabby, I'm glad you mention that. I crafted this post very carefully to walk the line of being possibly real, as someone could easily post a question like this. I wanted to mimik what a newbie to Paleo might ask, just so that some of you could throw down some good answers, like with the Italians being "ok", and Whole Foods Pasta being any better than Safeway pasta. And "I'll just finish this whole bottle" haha. Yes, I crack myself up. Glad you all enjoyed.

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Ok, first of all, I don't know where this idea that Italians are particularly healthy comes from. I used to live in Italy and they are in general healthier than Americans, because they don't eat as much processed crap as we do. However, I would say they are far from being super healthy. I started coming down with IBS while I was in Italy, and I assume it had to do with the mass quantities of pasta that I ate. BTW, Italians don't always eat mass quantities of pasta. They very often just have a small portion, in a first course (Il primo piatto), not the spaghetti as a mono-meal, heaped high on a plate.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 01, 2011
at 05:09 PM

yah i dunno. that's what my friend observed. she said almost every meal was pasta, and that most of the people she hung out with while she was there were very in shape and seemed healthy to her.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on April 01, 2011
at 05:29 PM

But again, every single meal in America is wheat, vegetable oils and processed meats and cheese with a billion preservatives and junk. At least Italy is fairly nourished and avoiding massive omega 6, trans fats, excessive sugar and whatnot. I don't see the SID producing centurions who stay vital the whole time as the norm. Sure they have some but I think we can do a little better. Robb Wolf mentioned Italy once, he says they have a super high standard of food quality. And it tends to catch up with them. So someone isn't dying in the first half of life. They're pudgy in the second.

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