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Whats the deal with oatmeal/barley

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 25, 2012 at 10:23 PM

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Is it possible that our genes have evolved away from eating high fruit/fructose diet in the same way our skin evolved away from the climate that would offer such a diet?

low carb is not an option for me, i believe it effects me in a negative way both cardiovascularly and mentally

it really comes down to a battle between potato's Vs Oat/barley vs fruit

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

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on August 26, 2012
at 04:49 PM

I stay my leanest when I'm intermittent fasting, regardless of the calories I consume. My results have been consistant. My bodyfat only varies slightly.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Did I fail to mention that my 115 pound wife eats meals that are identical to mine (about 2800 calories, give or take), exercises less and gets similar results. I've been into the health and fitness scene for years...long enough to know that the whole calories in/out dogma is over simplified BS(bad science). I've explored that concept in several ways including stuffing myself with between 3000-4000 calories a day, or as little as 1800 for a period of several months.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

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on August 26, 2012
at 04:08 PM

Big assumption on your part...I eat the same amount I used to eat condensed into 2 meals.

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on August 26, 2012
at 12:44 PM

@Eat Less -- My point is, if oatmeal and potatoes are ok, then why stop there. @Greensun, I could argue, easily, that the carbs I suggested (other than Black eye peas) are far more "paleo" than oatmeal and barley.

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at 12:25 PM

From what I've read, it says to let it soak 24hrs with an acid. So I add hot water and some lemon juice.

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on August 26, 2012
at 10:58 AM

how do you prepare it?

963322f175cdd4c5f7d52cc372b3a167

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on August 26, 2012
at 08:18 AM

So you're de facto reducing calories. Nothing magical about IF - or anything else that causes you to spontaneously/unavoidably reduce caloric intake. Calories in/calories out - all it's ever been about.

963322f175cdd4c5f7d52cc372b3a167

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at 08:17 AM

Black-Eyed Peas = great band. I don't think they're very paleo, however.

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on August 26, 2012
at 07:06 AM

Barley is so weird, for being a gluten grain it sure doesn't act gluteny in my belly. And I don't even seek out the gluten-free oats, and only twice have I noticed a slight glutening.

Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

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on August 26, 2012
at 06:01 AM

That does not refer to fruit. Eat all the fructose you want in whole food form.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/18/fructose-and-the-fat-switch.aspx

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at 12:25 AM

because those carbs and rice in particular doesn't make sense from either a paleo OR an ancestral diet standpoint.

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on August 25, 2012
at 11:37 PM

same, i prefer higher carb based on my physical activity level

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Cccb899526fb5908f64176e0a74ed2d9

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on August 25, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Generic oats may be exposed to gluten during processing, and barley contains gluten (along with wheat and rye).

Neither are Paleo, by definition. Doesn't mean you can't or even shouldn't eat them, but there's a wealth of evidence suggesting you should at least be suspicious.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on August 26, 2012
at 07:06 AM

Barley is so weird, for being a gluten grain it sure doesn't act gluteny in my belly. And I don't even seek out the gluten-free oats, and only twice have I noticed a slight glutening.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 25, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Why does it come down to either or?

What about sweet potatoes? Rice? Black eye peas? Chickpeas? Parsnips? Yams? Squash?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on August 26, 2012
at 12:44 PM

@Eat Less -- My point is, if oatmeal and potatoes are ok, then why stop there. @Greensun, I could argue, easily, that the carbs I suggested (other than Black eye peas) are far more "paleo" than oatmeal and barley.

E8c2167284f0cdd16a12bea2741975b4

(476)

on August 26, 2012
at 12:25 AM

because those carbs and rice in particular doesn't make sense from either a paleo OR an ancestral diet standpoint.

963322f175cdd4c5f7d52cc372b3a167

(646)

on August 26, 2012
at 08:17 AM

Black-Eyed Peas = great band. I don't think they're very paleo, however.

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on August 25, 2012
at 11:24 PM

It's all a huge personal experiment. I have a few friends that thrive on the higher fat paleo. I don't thrive on it and lean more towards higher carb. I cook my oatmeal based on the traditional methods of cooking and have had no issues. I also eat fruit and sweet potatoes. Again, no negative issues or side effects.

C2ecbc6f2948c232d60a639c50b7f4f9

(504)

on August 25, 2012
at 11:37 PM

same, i prefer higher carb based on my physical activity level

Medium avatar

(1536)

on August 26, 2012
at 12:25 PM

From what I've read, it says to let it soak 24hrs with an acid. So I add hot water and some lemon juice.

C4ed6ba382aed2eefc18e7877999a5de

(1579)

on August 26, 2012
at 10:58 AM

how do you prepare it?

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2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 03:08 AM

I stopped worrying about carbs when I started intermittent fasting (2 meals a day, no snacks) works like a charm. I don't eat anything with fructose (except for occasionally)..I sprout and ferment my grains (buckwheat, quinoa, oats, etc) and eat potatos if I want them.

Things I still avoid: Most processed foods (of course), gluten, Wine, beer or any other form of ethanol, sucrose, HFCS, anything made with corn, juices, sweeteners (except for stevia), most fruits....except for berries...

Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

(584)

on August 26, 2012
at 06:01 AM

That does not refer to fruit. Eat all the fructose you want in whole food form.

963322f175cdd4c5f7d52cc372b3a167

(646)

on August 26, 2012
at 08:18 AM

So you're de facto reducing calories. Nothing magical about IF - or anything else that causes you to spontaneously/unavoidably reduce caloric intake. Calories in/calories out - all it's ever been about.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 03:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/18/fructose-and-the-fat-switch.aspx

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 04:49 PM

I stay my leanest when I'm intermittent fasting, regardless of the calories I consume. My results have been consistant. My bodyfat only varies slightly.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 04:08 PM

Big assumption on your part...I eat the same amount I used to eat condensed into 2 meals.

2336245491a87ee15d4fb8f8f8283909

(1173)

on August 26, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Did I fail to mention that my 115 pound wife eats meals that are identical to mine (about 2800 calories, give or take), exercises less and gets similar results. I've been into the health and fitness scene for years...long enough to know that the whole calories in/out dogma is over simplified BS(bad science). I've explored that concept in several ways including stuffing myself with between 3000-4000 calories a day, or as little as 1800 for a period of several months.

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