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Why are nuts limited?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I'm reading a lot about how food w nuts or nut butters are considered a treat on paleo... Curious as to why?? I know nuts are calorie dense.. But they do have a lot of fiber and many other nutrients.

What is the recommended amount of nuts / nut butters to eat in a day?

Just curious why nuts don't hold the same weight as other fats ..?

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 18, 2012
at 02:06 PM

@bachcole....and I am sure your ancestors ate every single food that you call paleo.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on July 18, 2012
at 01:13 PM

That it does!!!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 18, 2012
at 12:46 PM

I mean, how can I make "Gunpowder Chicken" (kung pao) without them? And if Five Guys has free peanuts in the shell for snacking while I wait - I cannot possibly resist!

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on July 18, 2012
at 12:43 PM

Matt is correct. Cordain's evolutionary adaptation argument is weak. It doesn't mean peanuts are good. Every food needs it's own analysis. A "paleo" heuristic is a decent starting point, but it is only a starting point. I've decided that I'm better off without peanuts, but I still eat them once in a while.

3806d8d2d78746ce55d8201e67ef3128

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on July 18, 2012
at 08:35 AM

Why would a high protein and fat content make something harder to digest at night?

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on July 17, 2012
at 11:49 PM

I'm not rich, but my macademia habit is sending me straight to the poor house! :P

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on July 17, 2012
at 11:47 PM

@bachcole, ehhhhhh, not quite. Just because humans weren't exposed to something during our evolution does not mean that we should not eat it. Take your pick of quibbles with peanuts: lectins, if you're leaky gut (otherwise, they're rather harmless themselves); or aflatoxin, which really isn't an exclusive peanut problem (corn also tends to suffer from aflatoxin contaimination).

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on July 17, 2012
at 10:04 PM

But salt makes'm extra tasty!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on July 17, 2012
at 08:56 PM

I'm a bitch, just not rich. =)

D07a525f9021f8d72bf6aaa52893c795

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on July 17, 2012
at 08:22 PM

@MathGirl72 - only for rich bitches, I'm afraid! LOL At least that imposes some kind of safe limit on consumption.

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on July 17, 2012
at 08:03 PM

I unfortunately discovered roasted salted macadamia nuts a few weeks ago. They tasted like really good, buttery popcorn. I can't buy them again!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on July 17, 2012
at 08:02 PM

Salt isn't necessary. Plain water that you change every couple of hours works well.

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on July 17, 2012
at 04:37 PM

Peanuts are not paleo. They are legumes. Wikipedia: "Archeologists have dated the oldest specimens to about 7,600 years, found in Peru." This is not old enough to be paleo. We would not have the mutations and the time to adapt to peanuts. This is why there are so many lethal allergies to peanuts. The rest of those nuts look good to me.

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on July 17, 2012
at 04:30 PM

I am wondering this myself. We certainly have the genes for nut eating. Paleo folks would have eaten any easy pickings, including nuts, seeds, eggs, grubs, insects, etc. Bringing down a rhino, which most certainly happened, does not qualify as easy pickings.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 17, 2012
at 03:25 PM

Sounds like a workable plan to me.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 17, 2012
at 03:05 PM

I simply cannot control myself around cashews, mixed nuts or pistachios. Peanuts can also be a problem. Almonds, walnuts, brazil nuts are not a problem for me.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 17, 2012
at 02:21 PM

My mom gave me a 48oz container of mixed nuts and I ate the whole thing in a week. For many people, nuts are just too palatable if they are going for weight loss. I was not, so it didn't matter.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 17, 2012
at 12:01 PM

The primary concern about nuts is that most tree nuts have pretty high levels of omega 6 polyunsaturated fatty acids, which are pro-inflammatory. Also, it's easy to snack a lot of nut calories. A handful a day should not be a problem. And they are loaded with vitamins/minerals and who knows what all.

Fine for a snack, but not for the base of the paleo food pyramid. Meat and veggies still rule the base!

I've kinda got out of the habit of buying and snacking on nuts as I tend to eat a whole can if they are around. Still gotta have my dark chocolate!

F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

(1439)

on July 17, 2012
at 04:37 PM

Peanuts are not paleo. They are legumes. Wikipedia: "Archeologists have dated the oldest specimens to about 7,600 years, found in Peru." This is not old enough to be paleo. We would not have the mutations and the time to adapt to peanuts. This is why there are so many lethal allergies to peanuts. The rest of those nuts look good to me.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 17, 2012
at 03:05 PM

I simply cannot control myself around cashews, mixed nuts or pistachios. Peanuts can also be a problem. Almonds, walnuts, brazil nuts are not a problem for me.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on July 17, 2012
at 11:47 PM

@bachcole, ehhhhhh, not quite. Just because humans weren't exposed to something during our evolution does not mean that we should not eat it. Take your pick of quibbles with peanuts: lectins, if you're leaky gut (otherwise, they're rather harmless themselves); or aflatoxin, which really isn't an exclusive peanut problem (corn also tends to suffer from aflatoxin contaimination).

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 17, 2012
at 02:21 PM

My mom gave me a 48oz container of mixed nuts and I ate the whole thing in a week. For many people, nuts are just too palatable if they are going for weight loss. I was not, so it didn't matter.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 18, 2012
at 12:46 PM

I mean, how can I make "Gunpowder Chicken" (kung pao) without them? And if Five Guys has free peanuts in the shell for snacking while I wait - I cannot possibly resist!

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 18, 2012
at 02:06 PM

@bachcole....and I am sure your ancestors ate every single food that you call paleo.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 18, 2012
at 12:43 PM

Matt is correct. Cordain's evolutionary adaptation argument is weak. It doesn't mean peanuts are good. Every food needs it's own analysis. A "paleo" heuristic is a decent starting point, but it is only a starting point. I've decided that I'm better off without peanuts, but I still eat them once in a while.

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D07a525f9021f8d72bf6aaa52893c795

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on July 17, 2012
at 02:14 PM

Nuts should be limited due to the high PUFA content, as well as other anti-nutrients such as phytates, which are higher in nuts, generally, compared with grains.

They ARE highly nutritious and satisfying, and I find macadamia hard to resist, in particular.. This latter is probably the best choice, as they contain a lot of MUFA, and comparatively little PUFA. A 2nd choice might be walnuts, which are high in PUFA, but have a better n6:n3 ration (about 5:1). Any other nut should be consumed sparingly, and not on a daily basis.

Snacking is best avoided altogether if you can, but if you must - try making up some pemmican for that purpose, or seek out other high fat/protein animal sources.

Additional notes:

1 Note that cashews and peanuts are not nuts.

2 Only eat raw nuts (except Macadamia, which have much less PUFA to oxidise and cause problems)

3 Soaking reduces phytates, but only a little, and doesn't remove them

4 Our ancestors had to work hard for them and share them - our consumption today would be "binging" by their standards.

D07a525f9021f8d72bf6aaa52893c795

(1011)

on July 17, 2012
at 08:22 PM

@MathGirl72 - only for rich bitches, I'm afraid! LOL At least that imposes some kind of safe limit on consumption.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 17, 2012
at 08:56 PM

I'm a bitch, just not rich. =)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 17, 2012
at 08:03 PM

I unfortunately discovered roasted salted macadamia nuts a few weeks ago. They tasted like really good, buttery popcorn. I can't buy them again!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on July 17, 2012
at 11:49 PM

I'm not rich, but my macademia habit is sending me straight to the poor house! :P

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on July 17, 2012
at 12:12 PM

I recently realized that over-consumption of nuts is the probable cause of me not seeing fat lost around my abdomen. I've been "Paleo" for a year now, but have over-snacked on nuts. Last week, I cut them out completely.

I've had decent gains "with nuts", going from 195 to 160 lbs over the past year. However, I'm trying to lose that last little bit of gut and "love handles." I think over-consumption of nuts is impacting progress.

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8f87879387f2a357db7c33008ff9a04a

on July 17, 2012
at 01:25 PM

I think it also has to do with the Phytic acids...blocking mineral absorption. If you do eat nuts try to soak in salt water over night and dehydrate them. "Crispy nuts" ala Sally Fallon.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 17, 2012
at 08:02 PM

Salt isn't necessary. Plain water that you change every couple of hours works well.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 18, 2012
at 01:13 PM

That it does!!!

8f87879387f2a357db7c33008ff9a04a

(887)

on July 17, 2012
at 10:04 PM

But salt makes'm extra tasty!

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on July 18, 2012
at 06:53 AM

http://paleodietlifestyle.com/are-nuts-and-seeds-healthy/

We learned that even if they are often loaded with vitamins and minerals, most nuts and seeds should be kept to a minimum on a healthy diet for a few main reasons:

Most nuts contain lectins that can irritate the gut lining; Most nuts also contain phytic acid that bind to minerals and blocks their absorption; Most nuts are very high in total polyunsaturated fat and in omega-6 fat, two things that should be keept to a minimum; Nuts like walnuts and pine nuts are some of the worst ones in terms of fatty acid profile.

A few deserve a special mention though:

Macadamia nuts, high in monounsaturated fat, healthy even in high amounts; Chestnuts, starchy and very low in polyunsaturated fat, beneficial as a source of healthy carbohydrates; Brazil nuts, high in omega-6 and total PUFA, but also extremely high in selenium and probably useful in small amount to get adequate amounts selenium; We also learned that we can make the nutrients in nuts and seeds more bioavailable and mitigate the antinutrient properties in them by soaking them in salty water overnight.

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on July 17, 2012
at 04:35 PM

IF you really want or crave nuts, it might be wise to mix them into a meat or vegetable dish at a meal time. This avoids unnecessary snacking, and you won't have to eat a whole bag. Nuts are expensive too.

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on July 17, 2012
at 03:21 PM

Since eggs are too gassy and I eat meat for lunch and dinner, I've gotten into the habit of eating, for breakfast: 1/2 cup goat kefir 1 sliced banana, some blueberries and raspberries mixed with around 2-3 tablespoons of almond butter (or almond-hazelnut, etc).

I am slim, no weight issues. Am I doing myself a huge disservice? I don't eat nuts for the rest of the day.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 17, 2012
at 03:25 PM

Sounds like a workable plan to me.

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on July 18, 2012
at 05:18 AM

In case of nuts you should care of one thing that you it nuts in morning tome or in lunch time because nuts contains high protein and fat content which is hard to digest at night time.

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on July 18, 2012
at 08:35 AM

Why would a high protein and fat content make something harder to digest at night?

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