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Omega 6: over indulging in nuts meh...

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 04, 2013 at 7:41 PM

So going PALEO you almost instantly take a way out of normal omega 3 / 6 ratio and turn it around to a respectable level. I eat lots of pistachios. I eat tons of meat and fruit and vegetables. Eggs, use ghee or coconut for cooking oils. I do cheat, but not to the point of my prior diet lifestyle.

I don't see the harm in a high consumption of nuts when you have drastically if not taken away the vast majority of omega 6 sources.

thoughts?

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on January 06, 2013
at 07:49 PM

It was kinda a cloudy point now that I look at it. Thank you for your response.

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on January 04, 2013
at 09:38 PM

Pistachios are mostly monounsaturated fat. Yes, within the polyunsaturated content, there's a lot more 6 than 3, but overall, they're still mostly mono. Not a license to mainline pistachios, but if they're one of the biggest sources of n-6 in your overall diet, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Just avoid the biggies, which it sounds like you already are: soybean, cottonseed, safflower oils, etc.

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on January 04, 2013
at 09:21 PM

Did you just say forget actually thinking about it and use somebodies made up calculator at face value?

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on January 04, 2013
at 09:15 PM

I'm addicted to pistachios too. I feel your pain.

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:47 PM

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. You said that you are over indulging. Perhaps you should listen to yourself. Polyunsaturated fats are not beneficial in large amounts no matter what the ratio. But, I do love me some pistachios. Perhaps you are just addicted to the salt...

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:37 PM

how could the body be so deterministic that you have to consume your fatty acids in the same meal? Maybe it's just confirmation bias, but Land's work seems to make sense to me. The idea that there is a ratio appears to be derivative from a set up predisposed caloric caps

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:17 PM

According to Enig and Fallon, it's the ratio that's important. I do think that from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes more sense for us to have some sort of consistent ratio, as opposed to just DUMPING a shitload of o6 and then dumping a shitload of o3s to even it out. Meaning if you binge on nuts, you shouldn't pop fish oil pills to "even it out." It's probably better to consume them together (although nuts and fish aren't commonly eaten together.)

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 05, 2013
at 04:08 AM

No harm IMO. Nuts and seeds come with the constituents that tend to make the O6 less problematic (like vitamin E). They are whole foods that were a significant source of food for our ancestors. The only thing I may be concerned about is how fresh they are and how you store them. So unshelled raw and kept in the fridge should do the trick. Enjoy the nuts and seeds. They also contain minerals that people on paleo tend to supplement because they decide that they don't wanna "unbalance" their precious O3/O6 (magnesium, selenium, manganese...ect). Eat the nuts and seeds and don't bother with the supplements IMO.

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, overindulging in nuts still leaves you in a better position those on a SAD diet who have insanely unbalanced 03:06 ratios. So what is the harm? A lessened imbalance is still an imbalance and all the health consequences apply, albeit to a lesser degree. It should still be the aim to have as balanced a ratio as possible.

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on January 06, 2013
at 07:49 PM

It was kinda a cloudy point now that I look at it. Thank you for your response.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on January 04, 2013
at 07:59 PM

If I understand Bill Land's work sufficiently. His research indicated that it is the amount of O6 fats that you consume, not the ratio that is important. O6 fats are inflammatory and promote clotting. His recommendation is to consume as much of your fat from O3 sources and minimize the O6 fats. This is why fish oil supplements may not be helpful. You are not changing they amount of O6 fats you are consuming, you are just consuming more fat.

To put it another way, if the ratio of O6/O3 is what you are trying to balance; Then, decreasing the numerator may be beneficial, however, increasing the denominator does not provide a benefit.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on January 04, 2013
at 08:37 PM

how could the body be so deterministic that you have to consume your fatty acids in the same meal? Maybe it's just confirmation bias, but Land's work seems to make sense to me. The idea that there is a ratio appears to be derivative from a set up predisposed caloric caps

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 04, 2013
at 08:17 PM

According to Enig and Fallon, it's the ratio that's important. I do think that from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes more sense for us to have some sort of consistent ratio, as opposed to just DUMPING a shitload of o6 and then dumping a shitload of o3s to even it out. Meaning if you binge on nuts, you shouldn't pop fish oil pills to "even it out." It's probably better to consume them together (although nuts and fish aren't commonly eaten together.)

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:14 PM

Forget all the theory. The best thing to do is to take the omega-3 index and determine your blood levels of omega-3 and omega-6. If you find they're balanced, continue with your current diet. If there's an imbalance, cut back on the nuts.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 04, 2013
at 09:21 PM

Did you just say forget actually thinking about it and use somebodies made up calculator at face value?

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