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I LOVE NUTS: Good or Bad, how to control and which types

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Created April 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM

I love nuts. They are filling, crunchy, tasty and just plain different than most things I eat while on a strict Paleo diet.

Which types are the best? Currently I eat about a cup of either marcoa almonda, walnuts or cashews about every other day.

Is there anything wrong with this from a paleo standpoint? Should I only eat raw nuts? What about nuts roasted in sunflower oil and lightly salted? Other than the palatability of these nuts and the tendency to eat too many, is there any other problems? I feel like I have been strict enough with myself to limit the intake of the oh so tasty marcoa almonds roasted and seasoned with rosemary.

Any help or discussion on nuts would be lovely.

Thanks Paleo hackers.

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

LOL at downvote. You mad brah?

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

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on April 12, 2013
at 07:44 AM

BTW, raw almonds are not raw if store bought. Unless bought directly from the producer or if they are of foreign origin, they are pasturized. The ones that I buy from WF are steam pasturized. That being said, it's super easy to make almond butter.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 12, 2013
at 01:05 AM

The high monounsaturated fat content of macadamias is a physical fact, not a matter of elitism. It is a little depressing, though. Why is the healthiest option ALWAYS the most expensive one?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 12, 2013
at 12:38 AM

+1 :) .

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

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on April 12, 2013
at 12:29 AM

I upvoted because I see no reason for the downvote. Maybe someone is out to get you...

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 11, 2013
at 05:21 PM

If it's so toxic that you can't eat it then it's a poison, not a food. ALL food has some "toxins" which may actually be beneficial through hormetic affects.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 11, 2013
at 04:27 PM

Right. Obviously exclude outright poisonous foods from "in moderation." I'm surprised I had to qualify that. I'm talking about things like NON POISONOUS meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables/root vegetables, fruits, and if whole grains. Shit I said whole grains but it's true brah. They're fine if you're not diabetic or have autoimmune issues. But why should be base diet recommendations on unhealthy individuals anyways?

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

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on April 11, 2013
at 04:13 PM

In that one, I may have to disagree. Natural doesn't necessarily mean good, there may perfectly be foods more optimal than others despite how natural they are. Amanita faloides or part of the blowfish are pretty toxic and they're natural, the same with some berries and seeds, etc. Of course, of the not so-toxic, having in moderation will be better. I think that natural, but also proven to work well for the needs of the human body would be the best advice given. And regarding this, seems that lot of research has to be still done considering how much people still disagree.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 11, 2013
at 04:05 PM

^ yes. Enjoy them in moderation. That is my point. Enjoy virtually all whole, natural foods in moderation is the best nutrition advice ever given, and it's been around for decades if not centuries :) Of course, don't eat foods you're allergic too.

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

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on April 11, 2013
at 04:02 PM

... that is quite something and makes me wonder the goods and bads about them. For now, I enjoy them in moderation and keep a close eye on them, well, like with most food.

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

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on April 11, 2013
at 04:01 PM

I don't do it for the fat, it's just because I enjoy it. It's my lighter version of a crêpe (without the flour, sugar and so on). This way I can eat it some other different way than rather from the spoon. And yes, maybe that day I take them there are some more calories, it can be helped since if I were to compensate, I'd eat too few food to feel satiated. So I usually prefer to compensate then the next day. And week-wise, It works. But I could go for other food and had more margin to play with both quantity and satiety. The insane hunger feeling I and many people get for them I really think..

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 11, 2013
at 03:51 PM

The reason you notice weight gain when you eat nuts is because (a) you aren't compensating by reducing calories elsewhere and/or (b) you're just eating too much fat as a proportion of other calories, which cuts into protein and carbs (both of which are less easily converted into adipose tissue). Nuts on eggs? Isn't there enough fat in that meal already?

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:44 PM

I love nuts, I'd eat them ad infinitum. But for now, I haven't taken a solid opinion about them. Whenever I eat them I seem to put weight on easily, even if I stick with a handful. But if I just stick to a handful, I'm left wanting more. Today I had some organic hazelnut butter on my pastured eggs omelet and got more hungrier than usually and felt a little bit weird. Maybe it's just me. Don't really know, that's why instead of giving my opinion, I just preferred to pass on some data, the amounts for the nutrients are consistent (I hope) so better let it everyone find how they work for them.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 11, 2013
at 03:33 PM

also, nut consumption is consistently associated with improved health and body composition. I know it's just an association, but it's still a helluva lot more than you can say for beloved paleo staples such as butter and beef.

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on April 11, 2013
at 03:27 PM

Mark Sison quote: "Macs are the only nuts I eat anymore – they are so superior to all others." - Epic food elitist douche baggery.

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at 03:17 PM

Mark Sisson: "I only eat mac nuts now because they are so superior to all other nuts" - what a fucking food elitist piece of shit.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 11, 2013
at 03:13 PM

Not all culinary nuts are available to eat raw or unprocessed. For example, cashews are always at least steamed, if not roasted, as they contain a poisonous film on them.

In order of awesomeness, though: raw > processed > roasted > salted

  • Salt isn't harmful by itself, but it is easily over eaten in snack foods.
  • Roasting damages the good and bad fats in nuts and makes them much less healthy. You should definitely avoid nuts roasted in less-than-healthy oils, such as sunflower oil, peanut oil, etc.
  • Processed - well, you can't eat cashews raw, so those are okay, but skinned almonds? Meh.

Hard nuts can be soaked and dried to deactivate possible anti-nutrients. Raw + soaked/sprouted is probably the best combination.

Finally, some nuts really come out of their shell (lol), when roasted. Chestnuts (a true nut) are fantastic roasted, and being very high carbohydrate, you really only have to worry about over roasting them v. roasting them at all.

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42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

on April 12, 2013
at 12:28 AM

Watch your intake. I find nuts very easy to over consume in all their munchy, tasty, deliciousness. I only have them as a treat here and there now since I would eat them buy the handleful once upon a time.

When I do eat them, my go to nuts are macadamias (so creamy and a good nutrtional profile overall), soaked & peeled almonds* (I do this because, whilst it reduces the phytates, I think they just taste so much better soaked & are easier to digest) and the odd brazil nut here and there for selenium.

I personally steer clear of the roasted, oil coated varieties. You simply don't get the same nurtitious bang for your buck.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 12, 2013
at 12:38 AM

+1 :) .

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 11, 2013
at 03:26 PM

Good source of vitamin E, magnesium, omega-6 (gasp, guess what it's essential) and MUFA.

I eat 1T of raw almond butter or 11-22 raw almonds everyday. Been doing it for the past 7 years. I think it's an extremely healthy habit.

That being said, I don't eat an otherwise fatty diet, and almonds are the most concentrated form of fat that I eat. I also eat plenty of greens everyday and sufficient seafood to balance it out.

I say eat them whenever, just keep in mind they are calorically dense and lack omega 3s, which you'll have to get elsewhere (ex. greens and seafood).

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on April 12, 2013
at 12:29 AM

I upvoted because I see no reason for the downvote. Maybe someone is out to get you...

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

LOL at downvote. You mad brah?

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on April 12, 2013
at 07:44 AM

BTW, raw almonds are not raw if store bought. Unless bought directly from the producer or if they are of foreign origin, they are pasturized. The ones that I buy from WF are steam pasturized. That being said, it's super easy to make almond butter.

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048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

on April 11, 2013
at 03:04 PM

Will provide some links that I like which cover pretty well the basics:

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:51 PM

The reason you notice weight gain when you eat nuts is because (a) you aren't compensating by reducing calories elsewhere and/or (b) you're just eating too much fat as a proportion of other calories, which cuts into protein and carbs (both of which are less easily converted into adipose tissue). Nuts on eggs? Isn't there enough fat in that meal already?

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 11, 2013
at 04:02 PM

... that is quite something and makes me wonder the goods and bads about them. For now, I enjoy them in moderation and keep a close eye on them, well, like with most food.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 04:27 PM

Right. Obviously exclude outright poisonous foods from "in moderation." I'm surprised I had to qualify that. I'm talking about things like NON POISONOUS meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables/root vegetables, fruits, and if whole grains. Shit I said whole grains but it's true brah. They're fine if you're not diabetic or have autoimmune issues. But why should be base diet recommendations on unhealthy individuals anyways?

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 12, 2013
at 01:05 AM

The high monounsaturated fat content of macadamias is a physical fact, not a matter of elitism. It is a little depressing, though. Why is the healthiest option ALWAYS the most expensive one?

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:44 PM

I love nuts, I'd eat them ad infinitum. But for now, I haven't taken a solid opinion about them. Whenever I eat them I seem to put weight on easily, even if I stick with a handful. But if I just stick to a handful, I'm left wanting more. Today I had some organic hazelnut butter on my pastured eggs omelet and got more hungrier than usually and felt a little bit weird. Maybe it's just me. Don't really know, that's why instead of giving my opinion, I just preferred to pass on some data, the amounts for the nutrients are consistent (I hope) so better let it everyone find how they work for them.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:33 PM

also, nut consumption is consistently associated with improved health and body composition. I know it's just an association, but it's still a helluva lot more than you can say for beloved paleo staples such as butter and beef.

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 11, 2013
at 04:13 PM

In that one, I may have to disagree. Natural doesn't necessarily mean good, there may perfectly be foods more optimal than others despite how natural they are. Amanita faloides or part of the blowfish are pretty toxic and they're natural, the same with some berries and seeds, etc. Of course, of the not so-toxic, having in moderation will be better. I think that natural, but also proven to work well for the needs of the human body would be the best advice given. And regarding this, seems that lot of research has to be still done considering how much people still disagree.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:27 PM

Mark Sison quote: "Macs are the only nuts I eat anymore – they are so superior to all others." - Epic food elitist douche baggery.

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 11, 2013
at 04:01 PM

I don't do it for the fat, it's just because I enjoy it. It's my lighter version of a crêpe (without the flour, sugar and so on). This way I can eat it some other different way than rather from the spoon. And yes, maybe that day I take them there are some more calories, it can be helped since if I were to compensate, I'd eat too few food to feel satiated. So I usually prefer to compensate then the next day. And week-wise, It works. But I could go for other food and had more margin to play with both quantity and satiety. The insane hunger feeling I and many people get for them I really think..

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 04:05 PM

^ yes. Enjoy them in moderation. That is my point. Enjoy virtually all whole, natural foods in moderation is the best nutrition advice ever given, and it's been around for decades if not centuries :) Of course, don't eat foods you're allergic too.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 05:21 PM

If it's so toxic that you can't eat it then it's a poison, not a food. ALL food has some "toxins" which may actually be beneficial through hormetic affects.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 11, 2013
at 03:17 PM

Mark Sisson: "I only eat mac nuts now because they are so superior to all other nuts" - what a fucking food elitist piece of shit.

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on April 12, 2013
at 05:20 AM

Have them with protein, fiber, and/or water rich foods like veg (e.g. in a meal) to counterbalance the tendency to overeat the stuff, have things that don't have nuts in them that you like so you're not eating nuts everyday... sound like a good idea?

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