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Does Your Doctor Think You're Crazy?

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Created February 22, 2011 at 8:28 PM

(I tried posting this once before but don't think it worked; my apology if this is a double post).

I'm wondering if others have had their doctor treat you like you're nuts when you tell them about your diet and, if so, what you've done about it.

I like my doctor; I've seen him for nearly 20 years, and he's Board Certified in Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases. He's saved my rear more than once, and I think he's a very good doctor in many ways.

I recently had some blood work that needed improving, including high blood glucose, so I went Paleo, lost 25 lbs. since December 1, and have cut my BG meds in half. I've gained so much energy that I work out every morning, sleep like a baby, and am almost never hungry. My blood work has started improving already.

When I saw my doctor recently he congratulated me heartily on making such progress - until I told him about my diet. He, predictably, told me I needed to be on an American Diabetes Association or American Heart Association Diet, and that I was profoundly hurting my health by eating this way. I told him I think the ADA and the AHA are killing people, which of course sparked intense push-back.

Jimmy Moore has started a list of low-carb-diet friendly doctors, but I'm remiss to make a switch based only on my disagreement over diet. How common is this experience? And how have others handled it?

Thanks!

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on September 07, 2011
at 01:15 PM

No, can't afford them and they don't fit me well anyway - but I DID go back to his PA recently barefoot! AND told her how much my knees have improved since going 90% barefoot.

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:40 AM

PLEASE tell me you went to your orthopedic specialist in Vibrams :D

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on February 24, 2011
at 12:00 AM

adding paleo to a medical and a dental and choro degree is powerful...........you can change populations. That is what I do.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on February 23, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Thanks - it WAS kinda fun. (And he didn't say anything else after that either.)

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on February 23, 2011
at 06:47 AM

You and your doctor have been lied to for your whole lives. You have taken the Red Pill -- get a new doctor. See you on the other side.

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on February 23, 2011
at 03:25 AM

How does he argue with the results? Following the ADA or AHA diet is the problem, not the solution. My doc hasn't said too much, but he was happy I told him before I got my labs so that he would know why they would be/were different.

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on February 23, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@Travis: Surely those years of medical school can be good for something! Actually, perhaps self-servingly, surgeons and surgeons-to-be aver that medical education is useful is you want to be a surgeon. You can learn all other medicine from a book. :-)

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on February 23, 2011
at 02:30 AM

ha ha, noooo but my husband does :)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on February 23, 2011
at 12:51 AM

I've gone off my blood pressure meds after going Paleo and my doctor doesn't believe that's why. Crazy, since I lost so much weight and it didn't go down, they've never been able to figure out why I had high blood pressure. This one change is finally the difference and she still tells me she thinks I need "whole grains".

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on February 23, 2011
at 12:41 AM

That's a great comeback!

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

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on February 23, 2011
at 12:31 AM

Wewtness! :D Doesn't it feel great when the right words are there at the right time? I'm glad you were able to put your orthopedic specialist in his place!

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on February 22, 2011
at 08:42 PM

I'm sorry that happened to you, and although I won't go into why, I'm feeling totally vindicated right now. Thanks for sharing your story! I hope that he doesn't start trying to bully you into going off paleo, but if he does, don't hesitate to change doctors.

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E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on February 22, 2011
at 10:36 PM

My primary doc thinks my whole diet thing is pretty strange, but he says as long as I continue to have the numbers I do, HE'S not going to tell me to change anything.

But, my orthopedic specialist made a kind of snarky comment recently and - for once in my life - I had a good comeback right then instead of an hour later (like usual). We were talking about "healthy whole grains" and I told him I didn't believe they were necessary for good health. He asked me where I got that idea and I said something about having done a LOT of reading and research over the last year or so. He said, "Yeah, well maybe you should publish some of your research." To which I immediately replied, "I don't have to - it's all out there on PubMed for anyone to read it that wants to."

Score one for me! ;p

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on February 23, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Thanks - it WAS kinda fun. (And he didn't say anything else after that either.)

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

(5227)

on February 23, 2011
at 12:31 AM

Wewtness! :D Doesn't it feel great when the right words are there at the right time? I'm glad you were able to put your orthopedic specialist in his place!

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 23, 2011
at 12:41 AM

That's a great comeback!

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on September 07, 2011
at 01:15 PM

No, can't afford them and they don't fit me well anyway - but I DID go back to his PA recently barefoot! AND told her how much my knees have improved since going 90% barefoot.

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on September 07, 2011
at 01:40 AM

PLEASE tell me you went to your orthopedic specialist in Vibrams :D

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on February 22, 2011
at 08:31 PM

I've never had a doctor who has asked me about my diet and when I've brought it up, they've pretended to not hear me. I use doctors solely for ordering labs, and then I interpret them myself.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on February 24, 2011
at 12:00 AM

adding paleo to a medical and a dental and choro degree is powerful...........you can change populations. That is what I do.

4e40d2b9e1a762949a25b958762aa10d

(762)

on February 23, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@Travis: Surely those years of medical school can be good for something! Actually, perhaps self-servingly, surgeons and surgeons-to-be aver that medical education is useful is you want to be a surgeon. You can learn all other medicine from a book. :-)

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on February 22, 2011
at 08:40 PM

If you can, try seeing a variety of MDs and ask questions until you're satisfied. There's nothing worse than having a doc who fights you all the way due to their SAD bias.

I've been avoiding docs since going Paleo. However, I recently felt the need to see an internal medicine MD to diagnose a nasty flu-like incident (I wanted to rule out strep throat). She was very thoughtful and skilled, knew of the Paleo/Primal lifestyle, yet didn't judge, scorn nor ridicule. From that initial meeting, I've decided to see her again and have her track my bloodwork.

Good luck!

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on February 22, 2011
at 10:42 PM

My doctor let me go off blood pressure and diabetes meds with his blessing after seeing the results I got from Paleo. He doesn't think I'm nuts; he wants to have me bronzed.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on February 23, 2011
at 12:51 AM

I've gone off my blood pressure meds after going Paleo and my doctor doesn't believe that's why. Crazy, since I lost so much weight and it didn't go down, they've never been able to figure out why I had high blood pressure. This one change is finally the difference and she still tells me she thinks I need "whole grains".

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9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

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on February 23, 2011
at 06:40 AM

I've got a friend who's 28, diabetic and refuses to listen to anything I say about -possibly- cutting down her carbohydrates. She's got the "If you eat a banana, just eat some peanut butter with it!" mentality about how to balance her diet.

She's making some progress with what she's doing, but I want to just shake her sometimes and tell her it could be so much easier!

But her doctor supports her 100%, and I just read things on the internet...what do I know?

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on February 23, 2011
at 02:19 AM

Maybe you should check out the Paleo Physicians Network ...

http://paleophysiciansnetwork.com/

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on February 22, 2011
at 09:09 PM

I think having a doctor that you trust is so important. So if you trust your doctor with everything else, I would maybe just not talk to him regarding you diet. Or just mention how much your lifestyle has improved while on the diet and leave it at that - any doc worth their salt will get behind your lifestyle choices as long as they are positive.

I've briefly discussed paleo with my doc. He thought it was intereting and worth a look - he said he was going to research it and maybe next time I see him we'll talk about it. BUT - my doc does think that crossfit is dangerous, and really does not approve - strange how doctors really get all riled up over some things. We don't talk about fitness at all and I am satisfied with that.

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on November 01, 2011
at 07:55 PM

I've been seeing my doctor for 7 years and everytime I tell him something is wrong, he'll tell me, "you're just a worrisome person."

This past year, I've been in and out of the E.R. with Chest pains, dizziness, electric shocks going up and down my arm. Now the shocks have proceeded in the back of my head, through ym ear to my neck and its causing deafness. I'll get my hearing back over a hours time, but obviously this isn't in my head...it's true pain!!

I looked online because I'm too scared to see anyone anymore and read about Multipule Scleroisis. EVERYTHING in the symptom checker is what I've been having over a few years, but it's getting worse. I don't even know where to start (doctor wise) because I feel like I need to start over with a new one.

Nice to see what doctors can do to a person...

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on February 23, 2011
at 01:44 AM

My doctor evidently has a sense of humor, as he's managed to not have me committed and put on statins, even as my total cholesterol went from 240 to 585 (and back "down" to 378) since starting Paleo. I will be curious to see if the TC number comes down a little more next time it's read. My HDL has gone from 65->85, Triglycerides went up, and have come most of the way back down. LDL is up quite a bit still, but the subfractions are better. My profile was overall fluffy before, and is now more fluffy. But there are a lot more of them. I saw some interesting stuff on the web about how a low-carb diet could cause a transient elevation in blood lipids as it reversed the effect of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Who knows? I feel good. :-)

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