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How important is it to meet specific nutrient benchmarks? [graph]

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 13, 2011 at 2:45 AM

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"Nutrients generally deliver their greatest benefits when the body is deficient in them; few benefits when the body is replete; and often become toxic at high doses."

This showed up on the Perfect Health Diet blog today, specifically in reference to glucose. I'm mostly interested in the part that's left of the plateau. This corroborates strongly with my suspicion that the body can adapt to lower or higher amounts of specific nutrients pretty easily, as long as it has a little bit of everything to work with. This makes evolutionary sense, as people of different cultures throughout history have had vastly different nutrient intakes, and, until recently, they all seem to have done fine.

So, for a typical, healthy person:

How accurate would you consider this graph, based on your experience?
Are there any nutrients that you find do not follow this general trend?

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on October 13, 2011
at 11:52 PM

lol ok im biased

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:39 PM

You already digested all of it ? Amazing. I research it every day around 2 years and I still find I don't know much about C. If the fact that all creatures on earth make gram doses of C is unconvincing, I don't know what is.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:38 PM

You already digested all of it ? Amazing. If the fact that all creatures on earth make gram doses of C is unconvincing, I don't know what is.

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Yeah, sorry, that's thoroughly unconvincing.

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on October 13, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Seeming to do fine doesn't mean jack... Confirmation bias.

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:47 PM

@Simibiee: I think its better road to take then others. Unlike hard core believers in orthomolecular medicine, I am willing to admit good sides of alophatic ones. I seek the truth, sects and groups do not concern me. There is only 1 medicine for me - that which works.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:45 PM

Matt, I rly can't repeat it all over again. There is plenty of evidence. See http://paleohacks.com/questions/65801/the-ultimate-supplemental-paleohacks-thread#axzz1agX4Zr8H

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:05 PM

I think that majkinetor is a proponent of orthomolecular medicine, which has a different take on these things from Paleo.

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on October 13, 2011
at 03:38 PM

There are certain situations were low glucose/carbohydrate intake is beneficial, but I'd agree that, in terms of overall health, this graph describes what happens with glucose as well.

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at 03:33 PM

What evidence is there for vitamin C needs at 10 grams per day let alone 100-200 grams per day? Those numbers don't seem to make sense given our (human) inability to produce vitamin C in vivo. What sorts of foodstuffs enable that level of consumption?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 13, 2011
at 02:22 PM

All nutrients follow that trend but some are depleted during stress and plateu range changes dramatically, for instance with vitamin C, body needs rise from ~10g per day to 100 or 200g per day depending on type of stress.

I also commented on Pauls page.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:45 PM

Matt, I rly can't repeat it all over again. There is plenty of evidence. See http://paleohacks.com/questions/65801/the-ultimate-supplemental-paleohacks-thread#axzz1agX4Zr8H

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 13, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Yeah, sorry, that's thoroughly unconvincing.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 13, 2011
at 07:39 PM

You already digested all of it ? Amazing. I research it every day around 2 years and I still find I don't know much about C. If the fact that all creatures on earth make gram doses of C is unconvincing, I don't know what is.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 13, 2011
at 05:47 PM

@Simibiee: I think its better road to take then others. Unlike hard core believers in orthomolecular medicine, I am willing to admit good sides of alophatic ones. I seek the truth, sects and groups do not concern me. There is only 1 medicine for me - that which works.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 13, 2011
at 03:33 PM

What evidence is there for vitamin C needs at 10 grams per day let alone 100-200 grams per day? Those numbers don't seem to make sense given our (human) inability to produce vitamin C in vivo. What sorts of foodstuffs enable that level of consumption?

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on October 13, 2011
at 05:05 PM

I think that majkinetor is a proponent of orthomolecular medicine, which has a different take on these things from Paleo.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 13, 2011
at 07:38 PM

You already digested all of it ? Amazing. If the fact that all creatures on earth make gram doses of C is unconvincing, I don't know what is.

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