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Red Internally Swollen Nasal Tip After Dinner

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 26, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Hi all,

Went mostly paleo (some high fat dairy, usually low or no lactose after eliminating it for several months, white rice on occasion) about a year and a half ago to deal with a gut issue. Cleared up in a few weeks, lost the last bit of excess fat I had, and felt better overall. In the last year or so though, I've developed an odd issue that is leaving my doctors stumped. About 3-5 nights a week after dinner, the inside of my nose dries out, gets stuffy, and the lower tip gets red. This lasts about an hour.

At first I thought this was a food allergy, so I kept a log. Nothing. Some docs thought it might be rosacea, others disagreed, but besides a few broken blood vessels you can barely see, I don't have any other symptoms. None of the traditional triggers bother me - alcohol actually makes me a bit pale, my skin loves the sun, spicy foods do nothing. I get the odd pimple a few times a year.

I've had seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp which clears up right away with Nizoral. I had some flaking skin on my nose, but daily application of a 1 part glycerin to 5 parts distilled water cleared that up completely. Except for this occurrence at night, my skin looks normal.

When this happens, my throat sometimes feels a little bit tight too. Sometimes I get an itchy bump or two on my arms or forehead (hives?). So, maybe it is an allergic reaction, but I have no idea why I would only get this at night after dinner. I have an appointment in a couple months with an ENT to check out what's going on, but I don't expect any answers. I had comprehensive metabolic panel, thyroid function test, and more, and all came back normal with the exception of a slightly elevated ANA, which my doctor isn't concerned about.

Any ideas on this one? I've searched high and low and haven't found anyone with similar symptoms.

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on March 26, 2013
at 05:20 PM

Okay. I figured, just checking. Good luck, that's all I had to offer!

E0062eab4ccbf7684778e109a5432218

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on March 26, 2013
at 05:14 PM

Hmm, now that you mention it, I'm always concerned about going out for dinner for fear of this happening, but I can't remember that actually occurring. I don't eat out much though. I mostly eat in my apartment and am there other times, so that should't be it, but I didn't think to pay attention to the cookware. Good idea. I'll take an antihistamine the next few nights and see what happens.

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on March 26, 2013
at 05:11 PM

I did check that. I sometimes go days without eating foods with any appreciable histamine. Thanks.

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on March 26, 2013
at 04:40 PM

It looks like an allergy. Try suppressing it with antihistamines, if that works, it's very likely to be an allergy.

Note that it doesn't necessarily have to be to food. Where do you eat dinner? Do you spend time in that place other than when eating dinner? Look for any common factor for the nights when you get this reaction -- plates, cutlery, pot or pan, napkin, etc.

E0062eab4ccbf7684778e109a5432218

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on March 26, 2013
at 05:14 PM

Hmm, now that you mention it, I'm always concerned about going out for dinner for fear of this happening, but I can't remember that actually occurring. I don't eat out much though. I mostly eat in my apartment and am there other times, so that should't be it, but I didn't think to pay attention to the cookware. Good idea. I'll take an antihistamine the next few nights and see what happens.

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E0062eab4ccbf7684778e109a5432218

on April 24, 2013
at 12:39 PM

Just an update on this...I found someone else describing similar symptoms. He said he tried some suggestions from Ray Peat, and it cleared up. I tried those same suggestions (mostly adding a lot more carbs to my diet in terms of fruit and fruit juice and eating gelatin with muscle meat). I haven't had this problem since. I'm on day 15 or so.

I also don't get nasal congestion like I was. Anyway, I'm happy as I was starting to get worried.

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on April 23, 2013
at 07:17 PM

I had the exact same thing. My nose was actually so painful on the tip that if I even brushed it my eyes would water. It was definitley an allergy. I dropped both nighshades and dairy, use coconut oil on the skin and it went away.

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on March 26, 2013
at 04:38 PM

I'm sure you've already combed through some of the obvious stuff, but have you looked into a histamine intolerance?

E0062eab4ccbf7684778e109a5432218

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on March 26, 2013
at 05:11 PM

I did check that. I sometimes go days without eating foods with any appreciable histamine. Thanks.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on March 26, 2013
at 05:20 PM

Okay. I figured, just checking. Good luck, that's all I had to offer!

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