Last night, I experienced 'infra-red' vision for the first time! I have a section of my home that is completely dark. Blacked out. And yet I could see everything. Blurry and vague, but I could see. It appeared as a very subtle red and orange blury view, but I could see everything. I thought I might be delusional, but I was 100% sober. I turned the lights off and within ten seconds I could clearly see door frames, clothes in the hall (dark spots), and myself. I had been reading on the couch so my back was hot, and I was aware of a bright orange 'back light' reflecting off the wall behind me.
I thought I might be imagining this so I spun around a few times, then precisely reached out and touched the doorframe, light switch, etc, right where I saw them. I have a strong 'sixth sense', and have had several experiences before with animals (they talk to me and many of my friends telepathically - not a big deal to anyone who spends lots of time around animals because you know exactly what I'm talking about. The last instance was one of my goats was standing BEHIND me, out of site and without making a sound very clearly communicated to me I needed to clean out the waterer, which it turns out was full of poo. Another time I was hiking in the dark and hesitated from stepping down. There was a rattlesnake in the path. That sort of stuff. . .) so discovering new senses isn't at all surprising, but this is the first time I've experienced infra-red vision. So amazing!
Has anyone else had this experience? My kids thought this might be because my goats were nibbling Jimsonweed and castor and something might have been transferred to the milk. I've been eating lots of macadamia nuts and nectarine cobbler (hey, it's Weston Price and it's DELICIOUS! Don't hate!!). Something epigenetic? Mindset? Company? Full moon? Let's figure this out because I want to be able to repeat it.
And yes, I'm crazy but I'm OK with that.
ed: I want to hear from people who have had this experience, not from tards who are obviously taking a break from getting their asses kicked by ten year olds playing Call of Duty and have no clue about animals or 'soft skills'. Have you ever hunted? If you've hunted or tracked, you'll know there are senses that allow you to track and find game that aren't in the standard 5. Call it intuition, or whatever, but the Predator reference is a solid one. And yes, it was very much like that. If you only have five senses, I pity you. I have at least eight, and I know of many others who get what I'm saying on the other seven, just not on infra-red. To make light of this is to show your own ignorance and limitations.
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on July 05, 2012
at 10:10 AM
It wasn't the macadamias. I eat those too and no IR vision. Please find out what it is, it's a very cool ability that I'd like to have too. :-D
Maybe it was the full moon - as it was full last night, but then, why doesn't everyone have it?
It's a hard thing to google since it comes up with lots of stuff about infrared light and FLIR and cameras. But I did find this one interesting thing that mentions a form of vitamin A called A2: http://www.edkeyes.org/blog/050825.html
I did some quick checking on this, and though I couldn't find any references to military research, there were some examples in the regular civilian literature. Yoshikami, Pearlman, and Crescitelli (Vision Research 9:633-646 1969) did a similar experiment on rats, putting them on a diet which was deficient in vitamin A and supplementing it with additions of either vitamin A1 (the normal form) or A2 (the altered one). No behavioral studies were done, but they did extract the retinas and perform some spectral analysis, with the result that there was indeed some alteration of the photopigments, specifically the addition of a second form with sensitivity shifted redward by about 20nm.
That study cited Millard and McCann (Journal of Applied Physiology 1:807-810 1949) which was an experiment on humans, albeit with fairly loose controls on diet. They found that behaviorally the group taking A2 supplements had slightly improved red sensitivity, but didn't provide any detailed spectral response curves.
There's a link in the above site to this one: http://vm.uconn.edu/~lundquis/links.html#sensation which has more details:
Infrared vision: Here is a description of a military experiment attempting to give humans "infrared vision", or the ability to see in the dark based on radiation we normally only experience as heat (since it's outside the range of our eyes' light senstivity). This is a third-hand account but I've included the citation of the second-hand account in case anyone can track it down...
from Sekuler, R., and Blake, R. (1994). Perception (3rd ed.). Springfield, Ill.: Thomas. pp. 62-63: The following story dramatizes how photopigments determine what one can see. During World War II, the United States Navy wanted its sailors to be able to see infrared signal lights that would be invisible to the enemy. Normally, it is impossible to see infrared radiation because, as pointed out earlier, the wavelengths are too long for human photopigments. In order for humans to see infrared, the spectral sensitivity of some human photopigment would have to be changed. Vision scientists knew that retinal, the derivative of vitamin A, was part of every photopigment molecule and that various forms of vitamin A existed. If the retina could be encouraged to use some alternative form of vitamin A in its manufacture of photopigments, the spectral sensitivity of those photopigments would be abnormal, perhaps extending into infrared radiation. Human volunteers were fed diets rich in an alternative form of vitamin A but deficient in the usual form. Over several months, the volunteers' vision changed, giving them greater sensitivity to light of longer wavelengths. Though the experiment seemed to be working, it was aborted. The development of the "snooperscope," an electronic device for seeing infrared radiation, made continuation of the experiment unnecessary (Rubin and Walls, 1969). Still, the experiment demonstrates that photopigments select what one can see; changing those photopigments would change one's vision. p. 546: Rubin, M. L., and Walls, G. L. (1969). Fundamentals of visual science. Springfield, Ill.: Thomas.
So maybe something you ate was high in whatever this vitamin A2 is? If you find out, pls let us know. :)
I did find this on Vitamin A2 (pdf link).
3,4-Didehydroretinol (vitamin A2, DR, dehydroretinol), a naturally occurring analogue of retino) (vi tamin A,, R), is active in vision, growth and cellular differ entiation but is converted to retino! in very small amounts, if at all.
But no mention of infrared. Apparently, it's found in fresh water fish:
dehydroretinol vitamin A2, the form, C20H28O, of vitamin A found in the retina and liver of freshwater fishes and certain invertebrates and amphibians; it differs from retinol (vitamin A1) in having one more conjugated double bond and has approximately one-third the biological activity of retinol. Called also retinol2.
So, have you been eating fish livers or eyes recently?
on July 05, 2012
at 09:24 AM
Did you happen to have recently watched The Predator...because the same thing always happens to me after.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
on July 05, 2012
at 02:33 PM
I understand your attempt to know what was happening to you and I admire your boldness to just put it out there. If more people would make bizarre claims, throw out crazy ideas, push the line - without immediate belief - the world would be a much better place. Though you're very likely mistaken, you're not crazy: belief in supernatural/paranormal/bending-of-science-as-we-know-it has been held by most humans throughout all of time. It's Paleo.
The animal connection would not be telepathy. That word implies that the communication is linguistic, that you heard words in your head in a goat voice. Hunches (which are prone to selection bias) are different than telepathy or even "communication". You might be able to sense from a goat or a dog that something is wrong, by body language, chemicals released by the body, etc. The animal gets scared, its heart rate increases and maybe you've been around them enough that you've developed a tacit skill for picking up on that. But that's not X-Men. Which brings us to the infrared vision. I found a study done that said your eyes' photoreceptors can be triggered by heat. Maybe what happened? I have friends that say they have gold dust appear on their hands. Your skin with its oils naturally has some shiny facets, add sweat, you'll get a little more shine. It seems like you've experienced a similar selection of details that, from one perspective, link to such a conclusion. Unless it's some "partial" infrared vision or something unlikely like that, how would you explain seeing just your back heat, but not all of your body heat? Probably just a trick of the light on that night in that room and maybe it's just your night vision is a little better than the last time you paid attention to it!
on July 05, 2012
at 11:25 AM
Ok, I have an unusual thing. Only one though. I can feel people I love. It happened to me about 5-7 times in my life - I have never recorded it.
For example, I love my mom (not just love - I have a very strong spiritual connection to her). So one time I was going to a dental appointment. My mom goes to the same dentist, but she goes to him once a year (he is her dentist) but I went to him only twice in my life time, last time about ten years ago - I use a different dentist.
So I am walking to his place, because his building is behind other buildings and you need to walk all the way behind a store or some warehouse that it is upfront. As I was walking towards the store, I started "feeling" my mom's presence. It is hard to describe, it is not an intuition, it is like another sense. You know, how you can smell things, touch things, taste food, etc.? I was able to feel it inside that my mom was nearby. And with each step, the feeling was getting stronger and stronger.
As soon as I turned around the corner, I could see my mom walking towards me. We were about 50 yards apart, but I started yelling at her, "OMG, I totally felt you were nearby!" My mom could not hear me, but when she came closer, she told me, "You **ing psychic! How come I never feel that?"
So it was a very interesting coincidence that her once a year and my once in a lifetime appointments were scheduled one hour apart (the doctor did not know we were related - we have different last names and addresses), that she was late and I was early (I am usually late everywhere and she is always early) and that I had such a strong feeling. I did not even tell my mom I was going to the dentist on that day - I scheduled it the day before because there was an opening!
I had the same thing many times with my mom and twice with other people. This is the ONLY unusual ability I have.
I don't drink (AT ALL, not even a drop), don't smoke and never had, don't use drugs, don't take any medications, and at that time I was not Paleo. I do not know how to explain that.
on July 05, 2012
at 02:47 PM
I read somewhere (but can't seem to find the link) that in certain populations, a significant amount of women can see in infrared and are more likely to be able to in general. I can't remember why or any useful details, but I am sure it is google-able.
on July 05, 2012
at 09:22 AM
I remember reading once that night-vision and particular ways of relating with animals are in some way linked to being on the asperger's spectrum. Might be a fuzzy memory though, and I can't find the source after a cursory serach via google...
on September 08, 2017
at 01:08 AM
While exceptionally rare, there are people whom have mutated cones in their eyes which allow them to see a very small band of infrared light. Not nearly as common as being able to see Ultra-violet. Tetrachromatic would be one way of describing it. I've also been able to see into infrared since birth. Never quite noticed it until I begen playing around with emitters of the low-frequency light. When all other light is absent it becomes more apparent, or while in the presence of a grow-lamp. For me it doesn't really have a color, which makes me wonder if in my case it's because of mutated rods instead of cones.
I also learned while working my way through the color scale that I was able to see differnetiation in certain blues that even the females present weren't able to descern. So it is possible, has very little to do with what you ate, and a lot to do with our ancestors. It's not uncommon for strange mutations to shape how you perceive the world. Esspecially those of us with really keen hearing. I'm glad it's faded to the point where I don't hear as much as I used to. Really becomes bothersome when living in old places.
on April 09, 2014
at 10:26 PM
All I know is that it is another manifestation of a Chi/Qi ability as that is my spiritual path.
on April 09, 2014
at 10:20 PM
All I know that it is just another manifestation within my Chi/Qi path...and the infra red sight is very clear in pitch black. I don't use drugs or drink.
on April 09, 2014
at 09:43 PM
please see my comment, I too see in infra red at night and it happens often.....you are NOT alone.
on January 15, 2014
at 03:10 AM
It's unlikely you're seeing infrared. It's actually a darker red toward black on the spectrum. Orange is lower in the spectrum (before red). All those videos you see with the bright blue red and orange colors are nowhere near the real colors, they're translated to be visible to humans. In terms of night vision, you don't have night vision immediately if you go from bright light to total darkness. There are enzymes in your eyes that bleach out in bright light, and it usually takes between 15-30 minutes for the Rhodopsin in your eye to recycle after bright light exposure. If you don't have enough Vitamin A, you can't recycle Rhodopsin and have no night vision. People with more cones do better, but you're still affected by it.
Note, it doesn't mean you're not seeing what you say you're seeing, just that it might not be what you think it is. There's an interesting distinction in terms of vision and perception and what the brain does to it. There have been examples of people who are functionally blind, and their brains combine what they see with what they recall from before they were blind to come up with an image. In testing, small modifications are made to an object, and they see the object clearly without the change. A bit out of scope of a paleo forum, but vision's also bound a bit to language. People with distinct names for shades of colors can see the distinct colors (seen a lot in clothing with dyes), whereas people that don't, just see it all as that color. Example, different shades of green. Also, funky note, in a lot of languages, there's no distinction between Blue and Green (and no word for blue). In Vietnamese, it's green like a tree or green like the sky.