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Raw Cocoa Nibs/Powder

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 02, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Did traditional cultures ever eat raw cocoa beans or raw cocoa powder? I bought some raw nibs because they supposedly have more antioxidants than the roasted. They taste the same to me. Thoughts on raw nibs/powder?

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on July 16, 2012
at 03:13 PM

The woman who wrote that was not a doctor. I would like to see some evidence from other sources as well. It is good to consider, but also important to vary and verify your sources.

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:45 PM

I'm not sure about this claim CW.

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:43 PM

Quilt- how do you eat your Maca? What does it taste like? I want to try it but didn't know if it was worth the $$$.

8be12378a6d810513f69643e21218998

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on August 03, 2011
at 02:52 PM

Curious-- by blood glucose stabilizing effect, do you mean you notice more even energy/less hunger, or is there another way you're observing or measuring this?

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:52 PM

Well, it is bitter, but I wouldn't say it tastes like poison. But I like cilantro and many think it tastes like soap ;-)

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:33 PM

I used to know an herbalist who told us that the bitter taste of most herbs, etc., just means that they contain alkaloid compounds that can be medicinal or poisonous depending on usage, dosage and the body's current needs. The bitter taste is just to remind you to be cautious until you know how a particular alkaloid is going to affect you. And that is also why things like this should be chewed or at least tasted before swallowing (like in capsules) - so that your system and stomach get some warning from your mouth and taste buds that "somethin" is comin' down. ;)

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:27 PM

And, unfortunately, it is sometimes indicative of just REALLY liking chocolate ;p

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:26 PM

The fruit is good but the unfermented raw beans taste like poison

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 03, 2011
at 11:27 AM

so the localseat the beans. just for daily snack? thats nice.

8c509aac21bdb54b3ca91de2da994b9b

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:01 AM

i am glad you got something from it.

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on August 03, 2011
at 02:54 AM

Often times chocolate cravings is indicative of low magnesium level.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:43 AM

I'm trying to break Jean calment record.......

B58511bcd1ecc0dd4ad8130859513c81

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on August 02, 2011
at 11:02 PM

Wow... thats explains a lot of what I was feeling about my "need" for chocolate. Woops! Thanks for sharing!

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27361737e33ba2f73ab3c25d2699ad61

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:26 PM

@ Quilt (the add comment didn't work for some reason) -- I'd like to break the Calment record too! I eat my macs and nibs raw but wouldn't turn down roasted ones either. Never waste chocolate/cocoa or nuts.

I think the problem with the woman's opinion on the link above at holistichelp.net is the writer's obvious bias against any and all stimulants. First she speaks of how stimulants are bad for those with compromised/leaky gut - well that assertion may or not be true but I don't have a leaky gut. I also think it's pure speculation that food sensitivites are necessarily caused by a "leaky gut."

I enjoy tea and coffee for taste, enjoyment, positive impact on blood glucose, antioxidants, etc not necessarily stimulation. There are positives and negatives to everthing we injest. Too much iron will kill a person but does that mean we shouldn't eat meat? Of course not. Caffeine has anti-inflammatory properties and does not cause sleep disorders or anxiety in everyone. I drink caffeine close to bed and have no trouble falling or staying asleep. My husband gets palpitations with one cup. The writer then details how sensitive she happens to be to the stimulant effect of chocolate. I don't disagree that some people can be unusually sensitive to theobromine or caffeine, but that isn't true for everyone. Some can tolerate more carbs and fruit -- I cannot -- but that doesn't mean more carbs and fruit are bad for everyone. As for the business about bugs and rat poop in the chocolate -- big deal -- they are in everything. (Who knows, maybe they increase gut flora.) The bulk of her piece really sounded like pseudo-science heavily biased against all stimulants.

The comment here that the bitter taste of nibs means its a poison doesn't make sense to me. Some people are super tasters -- to them, it may taste like a poison. Taste preference has everything to do with number of taste buds on your tongue -- not whether or not something is a "poison." I am not a super taster and hence the stronger or more bitter a food -- the more I enjoy it. My husband gags at nibs -- yet I enjoy the taste of them. He thinks raw watercress is "too bitter" but I don't have the same reaction.

Back to my original question. I would like to enjoy my chocolate without any sucrose at all and like the crunch factor of nibs. So I am just wondering if it is preferable to buy the purportedly raw nibs and cocoa powder over the roasted nibs and coaca powder. Thoughts?

PS: I have noticed that the nibs have a blood glucose stabilizing effect and my bp is nice and low despite all the purported "stimulation."

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:33 PM

I used to know an herbalist who told us that the bitter taste of most herbs, etc., just means that they contain alkaloid compounds that can be medicinal or poisonous depending on usage, dosage and the body's current needs. The bitter taste is just to remind you to be cautious until you know how a particular alkaloid is going to affect you. And that is also why things like this should be chewed or at least tasted before swallowing (like in capsules) - so that your system and stomach get some warning from your mouth and taste buds that "somethin" is comin' down. ;)

8be12378a6d810513f69643e21218998

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on August 03, 2011
at 02:52 PM

Curious-- by blood glucose stabilizing effect, do you mean you notice more even energy/less hunger, or is there another way you're observing or measuring this?

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:40 AM

I guarantee no one eats more nibs or Maca than me here. it's nuts but it keeps my cortisol perfect.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:43 AM

I'm trying to break Jean calment record.......

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:43 PM

Quilt- how do you eat your Maca? What does it taste like? I want to try it but didn't know if it was worth the $$$.

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on August 03, 2011
at 08:56 AM

Hmm, well cacao in its raw form is NEITHER nibs nor powder. It's a big pod and the cacao are like beans inside, covered in a white film. Personally, I love to eat the bean and the film -- the bean is very bitter and the film is sweet -- but when I lived in the Solomon Islands (one of the places where cacao grows natively) the locals only ate the beans.

8c5533ffe71bd4262fedc7e898ead1ba

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on August 03, 2011
at 01:52 PM

Well, it is bitter, but I wouldn't say it tastes like poison. But I like cilantro and many think it tastes like soap ;-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 03, 2011
at 11:27 AM

so the localseat the beans. just for daily snack? thats nice.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:26 PM

The fruit is good but the unfermented raw beans taste like poison

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on August 02, 2011
at 09:24 PM

Alexandra, I just wanted to share this very interesting post from a paleo nutritionist/sobriety counselor about consuming raw cacao. I hope it's as interesting and helpful to you as it was to me. http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/is-raw-cacao-really-healthy/

B58511bcd1ecc0dd4ad8130859513c81

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on August 02, 2011
at 11:02 PM

Wow... thats explains a lot of what I was feeling about my "need" for chocolate. Woops! Thanks for sharing!

8c509aac21bdb54b3ca91de2da994b9b

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:01 AM

i am glad you got something from it.

C0c839648b31512515daaffe8e4e9ad1

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on July 16, 2012
at 03:13 PM

The woman who wrote that was not a doctor. I would like to see some evidence from other sources as well. It is good to consider, but also important to vary and verify your sources.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on August 03, 2011
at 12:25 PM

Its a ripoff and no better than standard cacao, its probably not raw either. Mayans roasted there cacao, roasting increases the antioxidants as well.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/u46p2284570x4764/

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on August 02, 2011
at 09:16 PM

I put raw cacao powder and maca powders in my smoothies, for the health benefits since I can't taste it in my smoothie. Careful of the nibs though, the nutiva naturals has cane sugar while the powder is just raw cacao.

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on August 03, 2011
at 03:26 PM

I don't understand why the comment link won't work so I apologize for responding here to Flashflood instead of in the comment area. I click the comment button and it doesn't take the comment?

Anyway @ Flashflood: Hi Flashflood. I check my blood glucose with a meter fasting and post-prandially. Tons of diabetes in my family -- both parents and brother. I find that when I have a tablespoon of the nibs after a meal, my glucose tends not to peak as high and fasting glucose seems to trend lower. I realize the fiber and theobromine could slow gastric emptying delaying peak glucose so I test to accomodate those factors. Of course all of this is within a very low-carb diet context. The nibs allegedly have significant magnesium, chromium -- so maybe those are factors. Or perhaps the fact that they do not contain sucrose like chocolate covered nibs (think 70% Sweet Riot Nibs) or very dark chocolate ( think 85% plus) does. When I use the raw cocoa powder, I make a drink with a tablespoon of the cocoa powder added to boiling water. I don't add sweetener at all but sometimes will add nutmeg or cinammon, a touch of salt or vanilla extract. I think the boiling water probably helps neutrolize antinutrients but I'm totally guessing.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 03, 2011
at 11:28 AM

i eat cacoa beans occasionally i also eat the raw cocao sometimes. it depends on what i feel like.

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