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This man thinks he never has to eat again.

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM

This isn't strictly related to Paleo, but an interesting idea.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rob-rhinehart-no-longer-requires-food

Thought it might be of conversational interest to the Paleo community here - particularly because I'm interested to know if people think there are potentially nutrients he's missing out on by not eating real food, perhaps that he's not aware of.

JL

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on March 15, 2013
at 05:26 AM

But omnivores need roughage in our diet to help clean us out.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on March 15, 2013
at 12:36 AM

haha i was just going to say this. you beat me to it.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on March 15, 2013
at 12:35 AM

i think this would only improve digestion since your gut doesn't have to work hard. the bowels still cleanse themselves regardless of what food you eat- we always create waste.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 14, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Already got my own recipe Cronometer'd out, using a few "real" but non-paleo foods, pretty much covers all micronutrients as well.

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on March 14, 2013
at 06:41 PM

"This man thinks he never has to eat again" reminds me a lot of "Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life"...

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Please don't. Sounds like a terrible idea. You are underestimating the value of real, whole foods. Olive, coconut, and fish oil are not whole foods. Neither is whey protein powder or cornstarch.

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:55 PM

Believe it or not I eat two fish heads a day. It's a delicacy that happens to be available at a local restaurant. But very bony and difficult to pick out in an industrial operation.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:45 PM

The allure is strong, I'm seriously considering doing this!

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:15 PM

It has to have fish heads in it. One of Jack Kruse's acolytes came up with it. Plenty of DHA in fish brains.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 14, 2013
at 04:16 PM

Infants don't have too much trouble crapping though.

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on March 14, 2013
at 01:36 PM

Not necessarily. People live for decades on hot pockets and cheeze whiz. Not saying his diet is optimal, but given what people get by on these days, I bet it can sustain him for quite a while.

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on March 14, 2013
at 03:04 AM

On his blog he says "Some fats, though, like trans-saturated fats, are difficult for the body to metabolize, and have been linked to heart disease and obesity". I'm not sure if he thinks there's a such thing as trans-saturated fats, but there ya go. No butter for him.

34f00c7b4e5738cf04ead1a012a14ed1

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:49 AM

I've also heard that. Shame that he might be really screwing himself up out of laziness.

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:28 AM

Nah, brahs...humans are obligate carnivores 'n' shit.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on March 13, 2013
at 10:56 PM

Check out the history of baby formula, especially soon after the discovery of N, P, and K as "the only" required macronutrients - it's a shit-show of a horror story.

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on March 13, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Ehh, that first statement isn't a a strong argument. He's missing phyto-,zoa-,myco-, and other nutrients since he's not actually eating food. :-)

46d2d71df39b4a6336df6d8307b25d87

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on March 13, 2013
at 08:07 PM

Same. Wouldn't this eventually lead to inability to eat solid food altogether? I've heard that some really severe anorexics are never really able to go back to eating real food...

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on March 13, 2013
at 07:42 PM

this-man-thinks-he-never-has-to-eat-again.

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37cc142fbb183f2758ef723a192e7a9d

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on March 13, 2013
at 08:03 PM

Call me a dinosaur, but enjoyment is paramount for me. I guess I'm glad I won't be around when everything is gray, tuneless and very cheap and efficient.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 13, 2013
at 07:40 PM

Missing 10000s of phytonutrients, at least.

But an interesting project nonetheless, similar to what many folks around here do with foods as opposed to refined nutrient isolates.

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:28 AM

Nah, brahs...humans are obligate carnivores 'n' shit.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on March 13, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Ehh, that first statement isn't a a strong argument. He's missing phyto-,zoa-,myco-, and other nutrients since he's not actually eating food. :-)

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on March 14, 2013
at 05:44 PM

Just to clear things up, he's only doing this to kill time until he gets a job or gets laid.

"Soylent is definitely a permanent part of my diet. Right now I only eat one or two conventional meals a week, but if I had any money or a girlfriend I would probably eat out more often."

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on March 15, 2013
at 12:36 AM

haha i was just going to say this. you beat me to it.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on March 13, 2013
at 08:03 PM

You just know there is something important not on the list. The story of the discovery of Vitamin K is enough to balk at such a project.

That said, it is tempting. I am so sick and tired of having to think about food. Grocery shopping all the time. I always feel I have to play catch up.

I actually looked up the term freeze dried on Amazon yesterday, wondering if there weren't some organic/slightly decent cheap protein sources. A paleo-ish version of this drink would be expensive.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 13, 2013
at 10:56 PM

Check out the history of baby formula, especially soon after the discovery of N, P, and K as "the only" required macronutrients - it's a shit-show of a horror story.

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800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

on March 13, 2013
at 07:46 PM

I bet soon enough he'll find himself in the hospital and it'll take quite a while to fix him back up.

34f00c7b4e5738cf04ead1a012a14ed1

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:49 AM

I've also heard that. Shame that he might be really screwing himself up out of laziness.

46d2d71df39b4a6336df6d8307b25d87

(278)

on March 13, 2013
at 08:07 PM

Same. Wouldn't this eventually lead to inability to eat solid food altogether? I've heard that some really severe anorexics are never really able to go back to eating real food...

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

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on March 14, 2013
at 01:36 PM

Not necessarily. People live for decades on hot pockets and cheeze whiz. Not saying his diet is optimal, but given what people get by on these days, I bet it can sustain him for quite a while.

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5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

on March 14, 2013
at 04:00 PM

I am really curious what this would do for bowel movements.

I mean, what would the body be getting rid of in large enough amounts?

That seems like it would cause some digestive tract issues if someone drank this stuff exclusively, since their system would never be cleaned out effectively.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 14, 2013
at 04:16 PM

Infants don't have too much trouble crapping though.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on March 15, 2013
at 05:26 AM

But omnivores need roughage in our diet to help clean us out.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on March 15, 2013
at 12:35 AM

i think this would only improve digestion since your gut doesn't have to work hard. the bowels still cleanse themselves regardless of what food you eat- we always create waste.

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D1d9b0d839144b72b5f5dae893a686d3

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:59 PM

Interesting idea, maybe not the best execution. I agree that it can be a pain to cook and eat sometimes when you are busy, especially for ambitious people. I'm sure we've all seen SAD people, co-workers, etc who are slaves to their blood sugar crashes. Having a beverage that can substitute for food for a period of time is beneficial, but eliminating food entirely doesn't sound optimal or desirable. What I would do, (and I already do this) is some form of intermittent fasting, augmented by things like bulletproof coffee, coconut oil, tea, or yerba mate if necessary, followed up by healthy meals of real food. Eating less, not eating never.

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34f00c7b4e5738cf04ead1a012a14ed1

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on March 14, 2013
at 02:48 AM

There was no saturated fat! Just olive and fish oil. Why not add butter? :)

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on March 14, 2013
at 03:04 AM

On his blog he says "Some fats, though, like trans-saturated fats, are difficult for the body to metabolize, and have been linked to heart disease and obesity". I'm not sure if he thinks there's a such thing as trans-saturated fats, but there ya go. No butter for him.

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on March 13, 2013
at 07:57 PM

Reminds me of that seen in Prometheus where they down the liquid food drink after traveling in the cryogenic chambers. I think she says something like "this drink has everything your body needs".

Super interesting nonetheless. Really curious to see how the experiment affects this guy long - term.

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on March 13, 2013
at 07:51 PM

don't think this will work, but i love the idea. drink a cup in the morning and don't worry, haha :D

'but if I had any money or a girlfriend I would probably eat out more often' awww poor boy :(

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:39 PM

I think he made it harder than it needs to be... just pop a multivitamin twice daily... micronutrients covered.

Cocktail of:

  • 2 big scoops of whey protein (50 grams protein, trace fats and carbs)
  • 2 ounces cornstarch (50 grams carbohydrate, pure glucose)
  • 2 ounces each: olive and coconut oils (calories!)
  • 5 grams: salmon oil (essential fats)

Macronutrients: 70% fat, 15% carbohydrate, 15% protein, ~1500 calories. Fatty acid profile: 38% MUFA, 7% PUFA (3:1 o3:o6), 55% Satfat.

Or replace an ounce of each oil with 4 ounces of sugar (white), you get macros of 50% carbohydrate, 35% fat, 15% protein on 1500 calories. A slightly better omega ratio of 1.7:1... Heck, toss in a scoop of cocoa powder and this sounds doable!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:45 PM

The allure is strong, I'm seriously considering doing this!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on March 14, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Already got my own recipe Cronometer'd out, using a few "real" but non-paleo foods, pretty much covers all micronutrients as well.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on March 14, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Please don't. Sounds like a terrible idea. You are underestimating the value of real, whole foods. Olive, coconut, and fish oil are not whole foods. Neither is whey protein powder or cornstarch.

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24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on March 14, 2013
at 01:15 PM

Good idea, bad execution.

And why not an all-in-one "meal substitute" drink in the same aisle as Coca Cola? A Paleo V-8 with slab of fish blender-ized in.

The option of drinking breakfast, lunch, and dinner would save me 20 to 30 minutes per. Which adds up to a huge amount of productive time per day.

Not for every meal, of course - some meals are meant to be savored socially.

Anyway, aren't nutrients in liquid or granular form more bio-available, in a mechanical way? The blender does the pre-chewing the jaw would have only done worse.

24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on March 14, 2013
at 05:55 PM

Believe it or not I eat two fish heads a day. It's a delicacy that happens to be available at a local restaurant. But very bony and difficult to pick out in an industrial operation.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on March 14, 2013
at 05:15 PM

It has to have fish heads in it. One of Jack Kruse's acolytes came up with it. Plenty of DHA in fish brains.

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on March 13, 2013
at 10:48 PM

I do this already - modified protein shake.

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