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Paleo Good for EVERYONE?

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Created September 19, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Hello Everybody! I was watching on youtube a girl who lost a bunch of weight without exercising by doing low carb/paleo-ish diet, and the more I thought about it, the more sense it made---since Im a student, who for the most part is on the computer all day, I dont really need carbs. However, Ive been "semi" paleo all today and I just feel---off. Way off. For breakfast I had a banana chopped up w/ about 1/2 cup cream, and melted butter+ a little cinnamon. For lunch I had 6 hot wings, for after-lunch "bulletproof coffee" w/ 2 tblspoons of butter, then for dinner about 3/4 cups of taco beef on top of spring salad w/ homemade salsa and like 2 tblspoons of sour cream. I do not feel well. Its like my mind or body is confused. I feel hungry (I think?) but when I look at meat and veggies and fat my mind (or body? Not sure) doesnt register it as "real food". Its like being hungry then looking at a stapler and knowing that the stapler is supposed to be food but its like you cant make yourself feel appetized by it. Anyways to get to the question---Im young (turning 21 in a month), do I really need to be experimenting with my diet? Kinda like "dont fix something that aint broken". Im 5'6 weigh about 129-132 lbs, and for the most part I love how my body looks (besides the slight tummy pooch). My acne has cleared up since my early teens (it was horrible) w/o me making a concious effort (too lazy to use prescribed lotions the drs gave me) and also I was a lil chunky as well, and now Im waaay skinnier (by no effort of my own). So i dont feel I NEED paleo (for aesthetic reasons), but its all the touted health benefits that have me intrigued. However, this way of eating doesnt feel natural to me. Like for instance, my bff craves sugar (candy, cookies, cake) all. the. time. And she has a very curvy (super hourglass) figure yet tends to need to watch what she eats/exercise, or she will gain more than she feels good about. She looked great on low carb and felt great. Me on the other hand, while slightly hourglassy, am tall and lanky. I dont crave sweet foods at all, but salty all the time. And I feel crappy on this paleo diet. Is paleo (meaning the usual high fat, low carb) for everyone? Or better for specific body types? Do I not need to mess around with a good thing or should I try to "paleonize" my current lifestyle? I think I just answered my own question btw lol, but would still love to hear some input..

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on September 20, 2012
at 09:56 PM

OK. Either this post is untrue or your first one is. Your words "However, Ive been "semi" paleo all today and I just feel---off. Way off." If that IS the case it's because you are living of a weird combo of little or no protein, oil and high glycemic fruit.

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on September 19, 2012
at 11:26 PM

OMZ! First few days on Paleo I had major anxiety! What was I gonna eat. Every food on tv wasn't for me! Then I had the poop of my life, all bowel problems dissipated and I had a few go to recipes like steak or burgers and salads that don't take time to make so I wouldn't freak out over food.

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on September 19, 2012
at 07:19 PM

Regarding the cost thing, you can pay now for food, or you can pay later for healthcare. You decide. Plus you don't need to go top shelf for all your food. You can buy canned fish, eat rice and potatoes, etc. Lots of ways to do paleo on the cheap-ish.

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Fermenting and souring reduces gluten and gliadin in bread by over 80%. I personally have no problem with a few slices a week.

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You're welcome!

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at 03:09 AM

If you are new Paleo or eating whole foods, you might also want to consider a possible deficiency in stomach acid (HCl) or digestive enzymes. Supplements of course cost extra money, but certain spices like ginger before a meal -- as a tea, ground spice, etc -- can aid digestion. I know there are some other food options .. can anyone suggest more?

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Sourdough bread falls into multiple categories, one of which is soaked and/or fermented grains. The bread is baked from a cultured dough that consumes some of the sugars and makes the grain more digestible by the human gut. It is better than most other types of breads but is still a gluten and a carb source; you have to decide if those have a place in your diet. If you're not already in an ideal place health-wise, I'd suggest abstaining from experimenting with sourdough until you are.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:57 AM

Thank you for answering my post and your breakfast sounds amazing lol. Good info, I suspected that I was probably not eating enough calories. Hard to get it all in when meat and veggies are sooo filling! But I am guessing it will take a while for my body to get used to. Thanks again for answering

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at 01:53 AM

Thanks so much for the thoughtful answer! Hmm thats interesting what Gary Taubes said. I have been sharing all this info w/ my parents, and they have gone low carb and eating veggies and way less dairy. So far my Dad has lost 4 lbs, he's just informed me and its only been since last week! So happy for them. After eating some fish just now, I feel way better and plan on continuing (and improving) this diet indefinitely. And thanks for the link!

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at 01:43 AM

Well I ate it because I wanted to, and all of it was good to me, so I guess thats all that matters :). Thanks for answering my post!

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Thanks for answering my question :). I am a broke college student so I cant afford kerrygold butter or raw milk (and as a skeptic, dont really buy into all that--esp. if it costs me an arm and a leg to get). A question though, I thought bread was not "allowed" on paleo. I did read numerous places that sourdough doesnt affect your insulin in the same way as other breads do. But just curious--is it something you have often? Thanks again for answering my post!

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at 01:35 AM

Hmmm more protein? If you dont mind me asking, what is a typical day of eating like for you? And Thanks for answering my orig. question :)

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at 01:33 AM

Thanks for answering my question :)! And yeah, it was quite a lot of dairy now that I come to think of it (and Im lactose intolerant too! -__- lol). I will keep that in mind, as after I ate some fish tonight I feel pretty good, and planning to continue this paleo-ish diet indefinitely. (And putting a little more effort into it.)

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:29 AM

That is very true. I might not go the full monty, but taking steps in that direction certainly couldnt hurt. Thanks for answering!

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at 01:27 AM

And what kind of nasty oil were the wings fried in? I'm primal not paleo so I'm okay with the dairy. But soybean or canola oil is imho near the top of the list of awful things to avoid.

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at 01:27 AM

Thanks so much for the thoughtful answer-- yes it totally is a thing of "I can eat what I want, I'm thin anyways", but I do realize being healthy is much more than just being thin (I know I may always be thin though just purely based on genetics). Lol and today I was TOTALLY craving McDonalds--and I haven't eaten there for ages. I ate some grilled fish just now, and Im feeling way better, its just gonna take some getting used to. Anyways, thanks again for the answer! :o)

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:55 AM

Getting rid of foods that can be potentially toxic to you is never a bad thing! I agree with the above. Also, I see quite a few younger folks coming around to this, which is great, but remember that often the metabolism and overall makeup (on a hormonal and cellular level) of someone under say, 30, will be different than older folks. I was dx with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis at 17, but most of my friends were still in the "eat what I want, I'm thin anyway" mentality. It hits different people at different times. Your friend's body probably just gave warning signs sooner.

You will feel better, just remember it takes more than one minor experiment. Truthfully when I was younger and tried to change my diet it never worked because I did exactly what you did - tried to eliminate things too quickly! Your body is used to eating a certain way, even if you don't think that way is particularly "bad" for you. Changing up a significant portion of that is going to send your body scrambling to compensate. I remember trying to eat healthy one time and I swear to you I was craving a Big Mac like nobody's business by lunch! Especially, like I used to, if you eat a lot of refined flour/wheat/sugar (or what can turn into sugar if you are sedentary) your body's chemistry can be 'off' and when you stop eating it the side effects are pretty terrible if you can even stomach it 'cold turkey'. I couldn't. Search about "candida" or "yeast die-off" on here to see what I mean.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:27 AM

Thanks so much for the thoughtful answer-- yes it totally is a thing of "I can eat what I want, I'm thin anyways", but I do realize being healthy is much more than just being thin (I know I may always be thin though just purely based on genetics). Lol and today I was TOTALLY craving McDonalds--and I haven't eaten there for ages. I ate some grilled fish just now, and Im feeling way better, its just gonna take some getting used to. Anyways, thanks again for the answer! :o)

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on September 19, 2012
at 06:50 PM

You're welcome!

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:39 AM

It appears that you aren't eating enough protein, maybe not enough calories. Bananas are really not a good low carb option either. Would rather see that breakfast have fat and protein (save the carbs for a more active day or do some lower carb veggies with breakfast). Since people have described what they eat, here's a typical breakfast for me (mind you, I have an active job and work out a lot, so I eat a lot for a small woman): 1/4 GT's kombucha, 2 eggs with salsa and sauerkraut over them, 2 pastured pork sausages, as much spinach as I can saute in about 1 TBSP bacon fat a cast iron pan, 1/6 of a sweet potato casserole with about 1 TBSP grass fed butter on top (the casserole takes 2 sweet potatoes, 1 banana, coconut milk and coconut flakes to make...so I'm eating 1/3 a sweet potato and 1/6 a banana with each serving), 2 cups of coffee with a little grass-fed whipping cream. On a very active day, I may also eat cantaloupe, mango or berries also. This keeps me fueled and alert for a long time. I could go without lunch if I wanted (which I do occasionally depending on scheduling, but I don't make it a habit). I can eat this, wait 3 hours, go do a 2-hour brick training workout and not be hungry until my body realizes I'm done working out.

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at 01:57 AM

Thank you for answering my post and your breakfast sounds amazing lol. Good info, I suspected that I was probably not eating enough calories. Hard to get it all in when meat and veggies are sooo filling! But I am guessing it will take a while for my body to get used to. Thanks again for answering

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on September 19, 2012
at 03:09 AM

If you are new Paleo or eating whole foods, you might also want to consider a possible deficiency in stomach acid (HCl) or digestive enzymes. Supplements of course cost extra money, but certain spices like ginger before a meal -- as a tea, ground spice, etc -- can aid digestion. I know there are some other food options .. can anyone suggest more?

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:58 AM

That sounds disgusting, no offence. Why would you eat that? How about -

Breakfast - 6oz Salmon and 1/2 muskmelon + coffee and cream

Lunch - Mark Sisson style Big Ass Salad

Dinner - Brocoli in butter and 1 large or 2 small chicken breasts with skin.

Sounds tastier to me. You don't need to add oil and fat to everything, just don't eat grains legumes or dairy.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:43 AM

Well I ate it because I wanted to, and all of it was good to me, so I guess thats all that matters :). Thanks for answering my post!

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on September 20, 2012
at 09:56 PM

OK. Either this post is untrue or your first one is. Your words "However, Ive been "semi" paleo all today and I just feel---off. Way off." If that IS the case it's because you are living of a weird combo of little or no protein, oil and high glycemic fruit.

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on September 19, 2012
at 03:54 AM

I think we're all missing the fact this is day one of a semi-paleo day. I felt off for a week or two until I got used to not having so much sugar in my life. Once you get past the sugar deficit feeling, things start to inprove drastically. Or at least they did for me.

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on September 19, 2012
at 11:26 PM

OMZ! First few days on Paleo I had major anxiety! What was I gonna eat. Every food on tv wasn't for me! Then I had the poop of my life, all bowel problems dissipated and I had a few go to recipes like steak or burgers and salads that don't take time to make so I wouldn't freak out over food.

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Well, you ate a lot of dairy and that could be part of the problem. I would be careful with the cream and sour cream. Dairy really is not strict Paleo.

When switching to a Paleo diet from the Standard American Diet you may need to slowly reduce your carbs. You can get them from nutrient dense sources like sweet potatoes, kale, leeks, and other vegetables. Also, use several different sources of healthy fat, (coconut oil, fish oil, grass fed butter,etc). L-Carnitine can help with carb cravings too.

The idea behind Paleo is to find what works best for your body, but that can take some time. Good luck!

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:33 AM

Thanks for answering my question :)! And yeah, it was quite a lot of dairy now that I come to think of it (and Im lactose intolerant too! -__- lol). I will keep that in mind, as after I ate some fish tonight I feel pretty good, and planning to continue this paleo-ish diet indefinitely. (And putting a little more effort into it.)

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:20 AM

If you are young and in good health, you most likely will not need to follow as strict a Paleo diet as someone older or over/underweight or who has health issues. In fact, I think it was Gary Taubes who proposed that the real benefit to Paleo ("strict low-carb"?) was for people over 40 years old .. but that may be more for longevity purposes.

As Melody said, it takes a while for your body to adapt to diet changes. It also takes time to develop good habits too. You are doing great in terms of awareness and working on good eating habits. Since what you are doing looks pretty reasonable. You could try tweaking per some of the suggestions above (changing dairy, bananas). You could also try experimenting with specific cravings. Here is a Paleo link with some suggestions for what to eat for certain cravings: http://www.livingpaleo.com/food-cravings/

Good luck!

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:53 AM

Thanks so much for the thoughtful answer! Hmm thats interesting what Gary Taubes said. I have been sharing all this info w/ my parents, and they have gone low carb and eating veggies and way less dairy. So far my Dad has lost 4 lbs, he's just informed me and its only been since last week! So happy for them. After eating some fish just now, I feel way better and plan on continuing (and improving) this diet indefinitely. And thanks for the link!

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:50 AM

Sounds like u need more protein and less dairy if any.. I have been paleo for over 3 months and I love it

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at 01:35 AM

Hmmm more protein? If you dont mind me asking, what is a typical day of eating like for you? And Thanks for answering my orig. question :)

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:42 AM

Any person of any age, height, weight, race, ethnicity and body type can and will benefit from eating paleo style. Just by cutting back on refined grains and sugar, "vegetable" oils and seed oils, legumes and conventional dairy and most franken foods you will be fine.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:29 AM

That is very true. I might not go the full monty, but taking steps in that direction certainly couldnt hurt. Thanks for answering!

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on September 19, 2012
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"Ive been "semi" paleo all today and I just feel---off. Way off. For breakfast I had a banana chopped up w/ about 1/2 cup cream, and melted butter+ a little cinnamon. For lunch I had 6 hot wings, for after-lunch "bulletproof coffee" w/ 2 tblspoons of butter, then for dinner about 3/4 cups of taco beef on top of spring salad w/ homemade salsa and like 2 tblspoons of sour cream."

That doesn't look very paleo to me. Not even close. The banana is very high in fructose. The cream and butter and sour cream are going to cause the brain fog if they're pasteurized. Raw and pastured is usually OK (per Kresser and Welbourn and me). Hot wings are usually covered in sugar sauce and god knows what else is in that chicken (arsenic, hormones, antibiotics, GMO chicken feed, etc.)

Here's what I've eaten today: A grass fed steak and pastured eggs around 11am with a small piece of artisan sourdough bread covered in pastured Kerrygold butter to sop up the golden yolks on my plate. Around 2 I ate a handful of grapes at the farmer's market. That's it. Seven hours ago and I'm not even thinking about eating dinner yet, and I've been going hard all day.

For a paleo diet refresher, reread Robb Wolf's or Mark Sisson's book again.

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on September 19, 2012
at 07:19 PM

Regarding the cost thing, you can pay now for food, or you can pay later for healthcare. You decide. Plus you don't need to go top shelf for all your food. You can buy canned fish, eat rice and potatoes, etc. Lots of ways to do paleo on the cheap-ish.

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at 07:13 PM

Fermenting and souring reduces gluten and gliadin in bread by over 80%. I personally have no problem with a few slices a week.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:40 AM

Thanks for answering my question :). I am a broke college student so I cant afford kerrygold butter or raw milk (and as a skeptic, dont really buy into all that--esp. if it costs me an arm and a leg to get). A question though, I thought bread was not "allowed" on paleo. I did read numerous places that sourdough doesnt affect your insulin in the same way as other breads do. But just curious--is it something you have often? Thanks again for answering my post!

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:51 AM

Sourdough bread falls into multiple categories, one of which is soaked and/or fermented grains. The bread is baked from a cultured dough that consumes some of the sugars and makes the grain more digestible by the human gut. It is better than most other types of breads but is still a gluten and a carb source; you have to decide if those have a place in your diet. If you're not already in an ideal place health-wise, I'd suggest abstaining from experimenting with sourdough until you are.

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on September 19, 2012
at 01:27 AM

And what kind of nasty oil were the wings fried in? I'm primal not paleo so I'm okay with the dairy. But soybean or canola oil is imho near the top of the list of awful things to avoid.

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