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Newbie! 3 years of vegetarian, almost a year as a vegan. Now I'm here with lots of questions!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 06, 2012 at 9:11 PM

So, At the moment I am only going off of what I've read on the Internet. I have a lot of different eating styles under my belt, trying to actually find one without getting health concerns from it. I've been a raw foodist, AND a fruitarian which had you stuffing yourself with somewhere near 3,000 calories of fruit.I am coming off of a High Carb Low fat diet/ lifestyle known as "the McDougall Program" (it's pretty much eat untill your full, and I never was!) because my body is rejecting carbs through these health concerns related to sugar, my naturopath said to stay clear of them for a while (carbs, starches, etc.)

The thing is, I could lose a few pounds as well Female @5'7" 140-145Lbs And reading about Paleo... I guess people do lose weight. as you can see from my past experience with food though, I am used to eating HUGE amounts of food ): I've been eating Paleo without knowing for about a week! I am feeling amazing too.. I don't retain water anymore! And I'm never bloated after a meal. The 3rd and 4th day I was so moody! Like the sugar was finally leaving my body. Just give me some pointers here? I can eat a lot before I get full, I am very active.DO I have to count calories? I love my veggies.. I have amazing will power, but restricting calories doesn't come easy for me.

My body is pretty freaked out by all this up and down stuff. I still need to normalize.

Thanks for any pointers!

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on September 08, 2012
at 11:49 PM

yeah well i stand by it

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on September 08, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Not a very helpful answer. She's coming off of fruit-only and vegan diets, both of which have a very different concept of what "real food" is. An especially unhelpful answer given that fruit IS real food and so her fruit-only diet qualifies, right?

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:12 AM

The general Paleo caveat is go by looks not weight (Sisson refers to it as the "Look Good Naked" diet). As Aleen points out, your body composition changes and everyone forgets that lean muscle mass weighs more than that spare tire or muffin top.

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on September 07, 2012
at 06:39 AM

There's also a few questions on here that have dealt with making organ meats more palatable, everything from mixing ground liver into ground beef patties to making your own liverwurst ...

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on September 07, 2012
at 06:37 AM

This may sound like a throw-away answer, but it's far more true than you think. There's a few buying guides out there, but it all boils down to old-school basics when you're at the supermarket: stick to the outer edges (meat and vegetables) and ignore everything in the center aisles (processed and junk).

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on September 06, 2012
at 11:21 PM

I'm going to caution you here, just a bit. Please keep in mind that if the basis of your diet as a vegan was significantly lower in calories, you could eventually settle into a pattern of weight gain by eating so much meat. Calories do still count.

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on September 06, 2012
at 11:03 PM

It could be that you just want to see a change in body comp. Going from vegetarian/vegan to a paleo framework might be all you need to add muscle and look leaner.

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on September 06, 2012
at 10:20 PM

Offal refers to organ meats, typically. Suuper nutrient dense, as mentioned. Personally, I'm not too fond of liver 'n such, so I choose to chop up and freeze raw grass-fed liver to eat as "pills", haha

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on September 06, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Thank you (: Every comment helps!

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on September 06, 2012
at 10:11 PM

What is offal?! Haha. I've never actually heard of it.

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on September 06, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Try some offal in your diet, the most nutrient-dense type of food and tastes great if prepared properly (terrible memories of boiled liver school meals -- shiver!), chicken liver is my favourite at the moment.

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:44 PM

Thanks. I know *I* want to lose some weight, but my body sure doesn't! Haha.

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:43 PM

Breakfast: 3 eggs, 5 bacon slices, and a leftover pork chop. Lunch: 4 bacon slices, 2 whole cucumbers. Dinner: chicken, beef or pork, with lots of veggies. Sometimes some almonds, I can't eat any fruit right now either.

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:27 PM

I suggest you read this: http://paleohacks.com/questions/141594/what-are-the-top-5-things-every-paleo-newbie-should-know-but-probably-doesnt#axzz25fYlWy00

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:23 PM

Give us an idea of what you typically eat in a day.

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on September 07, 2012
at 04:35 AM

First off, as a woman who is 5'7" and 150 healthy lbs, don't worry about your weight so much. One of the big misconceptions about ancestral diets is that they make a woman look like a fitness model. On average, they don't, and that's a good thing. Holding onto some body fat for a woman is pretty important for overall health, and there comes a point where one may have to choose athletic performance over health. BUT, what you are likely see, as another commenter pointed out, is that going from a veg diet to a paleo-type one, you will likely see a shift in body composition. My waistline hasn't changed at all since my semi-vegetarian days, and my body weight is the same, but my legs and butt have become stronger and more defined (and I've filled out the booty in my jeans these days, so my waist-to-hip ratio is actually more "favorable").

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:24 PM

just eat real food.

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on September 08, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Not a very helpful answer. She's coming off of fruit-only and vegan diets, both of which have a very different concept of what "real food" is. An especially unhelpful answer given that fruit IS real food and so her fruit-only diet qualifies, right?

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on September 08, 2012
at 11:49 PM

yeah well i stand by it

Medium avatar

(2923)

on September 07, 2012
at 06:37 AM

This may sound like a throw-away answer, but it's far more true than you think. There's a few buying guides out there, but it all boils down to old-school basics when you're at the supermarket: stick to the outer edges (meat and vegetables) and ignore everything in the center aisles (processed and junk).

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on September 08, 2012
at 01:29 AM

Just pay attention to where your calories are coming from. Don't be afraid of clean meats (grass-fed beef, pastured chicken and eggs, etc) and saturated fats (coconut oil, pastured butter). The biggest change is that you will be getting a lot more calories from saturated fat and it will take your body a bit to adjust to this until you start burning more fat instead of just glycogen. Mark had a great article on this:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fat-adapted/#axzz25po4KIrC

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:08 AM

A generic Paleo "template" would be something like:
- a high protein breakfast
- meat and veggies for lunch
- and meat and veggies and a little safe carb (sweet potato or yam or winter squash) for dinner
Spices and herbs can be used to your heart's content. Assuming you already know to avoid grains, legumes, sweeteners. If you need to count something, count carbs. When you realize you're snacking out of habit, not hunger, then your body has adapted.

"The 3rd and 4th day I was so moody!" -- usually referred to as "the carb flu", to be expected, won't last long (your body is just realizing that it's getting real fuel for once and it still misses the addictive junk).

And don't forget the other two legs of the "Paleo tripod": food and diet make the first leg, movement and play make the second, and sleep and stress reduction make the third.

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:55 PM

You don't have to count calories but pay extra special attention to your carbs, limiting them to about 100 a day while trying to lose. I eat adequate amounts of protein for my fitness level (lean body mass * a range between .5 for sedentary through 1.0 for athlete = grams of protein), and lots of healthy fats such as coconut oil, avocado, olive oil. Limited quantity of nuts and fruits while trying to lose is important. But by all means, eat up. I am 5'10" and eat between 1900-2200 calories a day and only work out 4x a week at most. I also drink about a gallon of water a day, and make sure to get adequate amounts of sleep. Hope that helps.

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on September 06, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Thank you (: Every comment helps!

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:33 PM

First off.. your weight for your height is fine! NO counting calories, just eat meats, veggies, fruits and nuts... your body will finally get to where it wants to be naturally. there is no guessing, nothing... like the man above said just eat real food

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on September 06, 2012
at 11:03 PM

It could be that you just want to see a change in body comp. Going from vegetarian/vegan to a paleo framework might be all you need to add muscle and look leaner.

Medium avatar

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:12 AM

The general Paleo caveat is go by looks not weight (Sisson refers to it as the "Look Good Naked" diet). As Aleen points out, your body composition changes and everyone forgets that lean muscle mass weighs more than that spare tire or muffin top.

D3ac0beb316838ec9ea4e0c3eabd6daf

(40)

on September 06, 2012
at 09:44 PM

Thanks. I know *I* want to lose some weight, but my body sure doesn't! Haha.

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